B-73 Restoration

[Brocky]

You must still have to start lowering the back of the deck before it gets out as far as you pictured??

other wise the front of the Mack will be airborne!!!

[mattb73lt]

No, it’ll gravity dump if you don’t put the leg down and then run the body out. It operates a little different than the Chevron deck on the other truck. That one is power up and down.

[Freightrain]

On 9/15/2023 at 7:32 PM, mattb73lt said:

Painted everything black with POR-15. A lot of this stuff was pretty crusty and had to be rebuilt, mostly the lifting frames and the bed cross members. Everything is heavily coated, but it's unlikely this truck will see Snow and salt again. I got some smaller stuff hooked up today and painted to piston that slides the body. It seemed to be the best was to do it, because it's so long. Next week should see the hydraulic lines go in and some more equipment mounted. I'm thinking later next week I may slide the body back on. I may do it with the other truck by reversing the body on the bed and rolling it onto the new truck. Or, I may call my friend and borrow another lift. That may be the easiest way to do it.

Spectacular work, as always.

 

One question:  did you put anything over the POR 15?  It has no UV protection and will fade to ugly.  I found that out when I did the frame on my B.  It was glossy for about a year and now pretty ugly.  

[mechohaulic]

picture up dates??? deck installed ; or work taken  priority ?? one deck picture shows looks to be lever left front?? hyd control for slide ??? under side picture appears to have graded mesh in two front corners ?== spot for chains and binders  replacing tool box under side ?? 

[mattb73lt]

Works been kinda busy. So, not a lot of time to spare. I did fabricate the tail light bracket and have them roughed in. Paint and wiring next then the bed decking next.

[blackdog2]

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[mowerman]

Matt????? You never cease to amaze this excellent progress looks great bob

[mattb73lt]

Mechohaulic, That's not a lever, it's a chain binder from when I had it strapped to the bed of the other truck. There are two screen chain pockets on either side of the winch area for storage. Future plans have two polished aluminum storage boxes on either side of the frame. I'm looking for two vertical chain storage lockers to mount on both sides of the head board. Probably pin striping and door lettering to dress it up a little and finish it. It does look good, though!

[doubleclutchinweasel]

52 minutes ago, mattb73lt said:

Mechohaulic, That's not a lever, it's a chain binder from when I had it strapped to the bed of the other truck. There are two screen chain pockets on either side of the winch area for storage. Future plans have two polished aluminum storage boxes on either side of the frame. I'm looking for two vertical chain storage lockers to mount on both sides of the head board. Probably pin striping and door lettering to dress it up a little and finish it. It does look good, though!

"Good" don't even come close, Matt!

[Geoff Weeks]

1 hour ago, mattb73lt said:

Mechohaulic, That's not a lever, it's a chain binder from when I had it strapped to the bed of the other truck. There are two screen chain pockets on either side of the winch area for storage. Future plans have two polished aluminum storage boxes on either side of the frame. I'm looking for two vertical chain storage lockers to mount on both sides of the head board. Probably pin striping and door lettering to dress it up a little and finish it. It does look good, though!

It is up to you and the look you want, but here is my take (from an old flatbedder/heavy haul) cabinet style lockers are a pain for chain storage.

Cheap but effective is to weld a heavy piece of flat stock along the top of the cab protector, with some added stiffners/ supports on the run, then hook the grab hooks from the chain on and interspace a  binder in between. from the hook to the floor back up to the binder lower hook, back down and then back up to the flatstock. That way the chains don't get tangled and there is a binder with every chain. If the top of the cab protecter/bulkhead is 5' a 16' binder chain will not reach the floor and a 20' will barely. You can add a "chain tray" near the bottom if that is your preference.

[mechohaulic]

On 10/5/2023 at 9:43 AM, mattb73lt said:

Mechohaulic, That's not a lever, it's a chain binder from when I had it strapped to the bed of the other truck. There are two screen chain pockets on either side of the winch area for storage. Future plans have two polished aluminum storage boxes on either side of the frame. I'm looking for two vertical chain storage lockers to mount on both sides of the head board. Probably pin striping and door lettering to dress it up a little and finish it. It does look good, though!

"does look good" is more then modest , to see it at a show would defiantly be 110 % positive. to be one of the many lucky ones on this forum to have watched this unit go from found in the woods  to the "mona Lisa " of the trucking world  === no words . mind boggling the end results .  pin striping will be like a female Appling make up; you want it to be classy - not trashy. challenge will be , if you go gold leaf with all the red, don't want it to be considered a fire truck( NOT THAT THERE IS ANTY THING WRONG WITH FIRE TRUCKS !!). this work of art is in a class of it's own.

[mrsmackpaul]

So would I be correct in my understanding of this tilt tray 

The bumber bar light bracket doohickie has it's own hydraulic function and this also doubles as the feet or stabilizer to take the strain and stop the truck doing a wheel stand

The big long ram on top pushes the tray back and gravity allows it to gently lower to the ground as point of balance changes as the tray slides back

And I gather you have a hydraulic winch up the front as well in the floor of the tray 

Do I have any of this correct

Tilt trays over there are a lot different than Australia 

 

Paul

 

[mowerman]

Yeah, it sure doesn’t need anything but personally, I think  extra lights under the doors and bumper if anything …. Pinstripe???? Not sure that it goes well with older rigs. Besides, I think it’s kind of Yesterdays news personally…. Bob

[mowerman]

But then, again, isn’t that what we all have here is  yesterday’s news?  Lol … i’m kind of anxious to see how this unit is going to perform … I was starting there aaawwwwwwed watching this guy operate this thing Brockway show. bob

[mowerman]

I have a video of it of course it will not load, but this trailer did everything but cook your  breakfast. I couldn’t believe how many maneuvers this guy had on this thing some of you might know who it is.bob

[mowerman]

And Mecho I like the Mona Lisa comment ingenious

[Brocky]

Paul, I think (???) you sort of have it figured out.. And yes it operates different than most of US roll backs (tilt trays).. 

The unit Mowerman  posted the picture of is a Landall trailer version of a tilt tray only the tandems slide forward to lower it to the ground..

[mechohaulic]

17 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said:

So would I be correct in my understanding of this tilt tray 

The bumber bar light bracket doohickie has it's own hydraulic function and this also doubles as the feet or stabilizer to take the strain and stop the truck doing a wheel stand

The big long ram on top pushes the tray back and gravity allows it to gently lower to the ground as point of balance changes as the tray slides back

And I gather you have a hydraulic winch up the front as well in the floor of the tray 

Do I have any of this correct

Tilt trays over there are a lot different than Australia 

 

Paul

 

correct in operation ideas; study the pictures very closely (I have numerous times). the rear "landing gear" attaches to the bed /deck rails at 4 points =2 each side :: 2 on inside of rails ; two on outside. the landing gear is lowered first ;  for stability also control of bed/deck tilt . gear down, extend deck; as deck extends the landing gear is slowly raised, thus allowing the deck to tilt at controlled rate.  sure hope I'm right =will be in heap of doo doo  with owner for miss instructions. LOL

[mechohaulic]

the statement " as deck extends the landing gear is slowly raised" doesn't mean the landing gear comes off the ground, by raising the landing gear ; hyd pressure in cylinders  lowers allowing the deck to tilt . 

[mattb73lt]

No, you got it right. Lower the gear, bring the body back and then lower the bed by raising the gear. The gear controls the rate and angle of the bed. Once the load is on the deck, start retracting the bed. Lower the gear which raises the bed, before you pass the center of gravity or the bed will raise itself without control.

[mattb73lt]

I put the pictures in sequence on the previous page to show it.

[The Rubber Duck 006]

Wow a Superliner in a Brockway Costume lol 😆 😅 🤣 😂 

[Brocky]

10 hours ago, The Rubber Duck 006 said:

Wow a Superliner in a Brockway Costume lol 😆 😅 🤣 😂 

Actually Brockway had a prototype for a 1978 new model on the floor when Mack closed them out in the spring of 1977 and Mack kept the design and made it the Superliner.  The old Brockway website had a big topic on it with many pictures from the engineering  / design room.

[The Rubber Duck 006]

9 hours ago, Brocky said:

Actually Brockway had a prototype for a 1978 new model on the floor when Mack closed them out in the spring of 1977 and Mack kept the design and made it the Superliner.  The old Brockway website had a big topic on it with many pictures from the engineering  / design room.

I knew that actually I was making a Halloween Joke hahahaha. But thanks for the info

[mowerman]

Took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. I got it …ha ha that thing was absolutely gorgeous .. I originally wasn’t going to take any pictures of it and then I got to looking at it a little closer and I mean it was immaculate hundred percent restoration. There was no flaws on that thing at all every detail covered it actually looked a lot better than the photograph shows.