Critics push U.S. to help Europe by taking more refugees

[kscarbel2]

The photograph of the child on the beach is indescribably painful to view. As precious as life is, that a 3-year old child could be forced into fleeing for his life (from ISIS) and meet this premature death.............the state of mankind reaching new lows.

But where is the United Nations in all this, the very entity designed to address such a crisis?

This is not a US problem........rather, this is a UN problem.

If ISIS was on the outskirts of my hometown in Syria, I'd high tail it the other way too. But Western Europe was already maxed out with immigrants BEFORE this flood of immigrants (refugees) came. That they "expect" entrance is arrogant in my view.

The generous welfare systems of Western European countries was never intended to host thousands and thousands of people from Eastern Europe and Western Asia. Radical Muslims are tearing apart Western Europe, causing never-before-seen high crime rates......not to mention terrorism.

As always, one of the largest tragedies is the suffering of the children. Western Asia, including the Middle East and Persia, have been fighting for two thousand years. If we remove Israel from the modern equation, they would still be fighting. If the three super powers went into the region to force peace, that would of course fail as well.

In the 1930s, when Hitler took over Austria, Czechoslovakia and the Sudetenland, and the Chinese took over the Korean peninsula and much of China, Americans felt that these distant developments couldn't possibly effect them. It could.....and did.

Today, in a world that has become amazingly small, so much that is occurring overseas can quickly bring trouble to our doorstep. Vigilance and leadership on our part have never been more important.

http://news.yahoo.com/critics-push-u-help-europe-taking-more-refugees-172623171.html

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[Red Horse]

When I look at the money the EU is paying to deal with this situation the thought comes to mind what if those funds were directed at remedial efforts at the source countries? does this mean military action to protect these people in their homelands? Perhaps in some cases. But if some order were brought to bear, I'm sure the rebuilding efforts alone could offer these lost souls some opportunity thy likely will never receive across the new their new surroundings.

[kscarbel2]

Strife is taking place in every global region, and throughout the United States. Unlike the "machine" (e.g. the automobile and truck) which have “evolved forward”, from primitive machines into the highly sophisticated ones we know today, mankind has failed to evolve forward, failed learn from its fatal mistakes, and realize the need to peacefully unite so as to ensure our long-term survival.

Evil must be contained, for instance Nigeria's Islamist terror group Boko Haram. If the world powers were to take a firm stand when evil rears its ugly head, acting as a united team with a "big stick", the smoke of trouble could be snuffed out early on.

Note the half-hearted and dysfunctional western opposition to ISIS, and the convoluted situation in Syria. Now, months on, there remains no global leadership (plan) for resolving the crisis there.

[41chevy]

We had world leadership before we got a community organizer to run things. Now we have a leader who called ISIS a J.V. team who is not a threat.

What is he doing about the North Korean build up and the Artillery strike in the DMZ?

Well he did agree with the U.N. for us to take 350,000 Syrian "refugees" in.

[mrsmackpaul]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM theres so much I could say but the simple fact is these people should be allowed to live in their own country and the real crime is the fact that our own countries dont have the balls to stand up for the people in these countries to step in and protect them and their rights before these fruit loops get a toe hold it is a crying shame that we as people stand by and let this happen to our fellow man and we should hang our heads in shame that we allow this to go on

rant over

Paul

[mrsmackpaul]

Grayhair your right on all accounts but I reckon the US of yesterday just like the Australia of yesterday we went and helped those who needed a hand not because we had to but because it was the right thing to do

But yes these people have got to help them selves as well and running away isnt really helping them selves is it

So Im far from being politically correct but the biggest wars that Australia and the US have fought in havent being on their own soil and Australia who has jumped into these bigger wars did years before the US to help people in need in a country that didnt ask for our help it was done because it was the right thing to do and we need to remember that because that is what made Australia the great place that it is today our willingness to help people who need help

Paul

[kscarbel2]

The one thing I will say is these people do not have military training, weapons or the money to buy weapons.

They stand no chance against ISIS, which is composed of many of Saddam Hussein's best trained, experienced and most ruthless military heads. This is why it has been a slaughter.

It takes a professional army to stand up to ISIS. Syria has one, but it's been preoccupied fighting western-supported rebels. The rebels are fighting amongst themselves, as much as they are with Assad's government troops (depends which day it is), and will be the next source of headache if/when ISIS is dealt with.

Where is the United Nations, or the Arab League, when it's time for them to perform their duties?

If UN soldiers are finished raping 12-year-old girls and murdering families in the Central African Republic, perhaps these ruthless SS-like troops could head up to Syria and occupy their time killing members of ISIS.

Related reading:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/21/what-saddam-gave-isis.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/20/former-saddam-spy-masterminded-the-rise-of-islamic-state-says-report

Be sure to read these tales of our success with rebels (your tax dollars at work for a more peaceful tomorrow)

http://www.wsj.com/articles/covert-cia-mission-to-arm-syrian-rebels-goes-awry-1422329582

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syrian-fighter-group-that-got-us-missiles-dissolves-after-major-defeat/2015/03/01/286fa934-c048-11e4-a188-8e4971d37a8d_story.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11203825/Syrian-rebels-armed-and-trained-by-US-surrender-to-al-Qaeda.html

[1958 F.W.D.]

I have always stated that I am sick and tired of my tax money being used to fund the US Military as a "World Police Department." I have always stated "Screw em. Let these places fend for themselves, we can barely hold our own as a nation and now we want to spend untold billions to go patrol someone else's block?"

But the pictures of the child on the beach- The day I saw those pictures, I thought "wow that's a pretty powerful image" and I was kind of upset when I read the story behind the image- poor kid's family was fleeing Syria to get away from ISIS. I thought to myself "That goddamned prick in the White House shouldn't have pulled out from Iraq so quick." And that was about the end of it.

Then, later the same night (this was about a week or so ago....) I walked into the living room. Small was sound asleep on the floor, wearing a red t-shirt, shorts and sandals, and was laying in almost an exact pose as the poor kid on the beach. I about lost it. I was thinking- what kind of thoughts was this kid thinking when his mommy and daddy hurried him onto a boat.....The innocence of his thoughts...."Wow we get to go on a boat ride, yay!!!!" "I hope mommy and daddy remembered to pack my blue ball!!!" "I hope that they have my favorite food where we are going!!" Now this poor kid will never know the innocence of playing ball with his dad, or eating his favorite food in a free place.....What must have his thoughts been when the boat he was on capsized....What did he think when he plunged into the water? When he lost grip with his mommy and daddy's hands.......I hope that God (or whoever his god happens to be) was there to greet him and take his hand, and take away his fears when he arrived at his final destination.

Now I am really re-thinking those "Why do we have to be the world's police department" thoughts." Or actually I am thinking "You know what, if we have to be the world's police department, tell the politicians to lay their hands off, tell the Military Commanders to do what they have to do- give them free reign, no rules of engagement, no holds barred. Just get in there and blow ISIS to Mars. Vaporize them.....In the name of that poor kid. In the name of all the people that have been beheaded, or burned alive in a cage, or dropped into water while locked in a cage.....

Something needs to be done to ISIS. And the rules of engagement need to be: "Find them. Kill them. Period."
-Oh, and any nation that is knowingly harboring ISIS.....And wants to cry foul??? Yeah....You should have thought about that before you knowingly harbored ISIS....Or Osama Bin Laden....Or whoever.....By the way, here's a few Tomahawk Missiles for you, look out your window, they should arrive in about 5...4...3...2...........

[kscarbel2]

Europe's Refugee Crisis by the Numbers

European leaders are proposing extra funding to deal with the immigrants (aka. refugees).

German Chancellor Angela Merkel today announced an extra $6.7 billion in spending on refugees in Germany next year including temporary housing for 150,000 people, with half going to the nation's 2016 federal budget and the other half to states and municipalities.

Now trying to turn down the massive flow, Germany and Austria are advocating for quotas for each of the 28 members of the European Union.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is expected this week to propose relocating 120,000 migrants now located in Italy, Greece and Hungary to other EU nations.

That plan may include offering 6,000 euros per refugee in funding (about $6,700) for the host country and 500 euros per migrant (about $558) to the E.U. nation where they enter.

The Numbers:

Number of displaced people internally after Syrian conflict: More than 6 million

Registered refugees to other countries after Syrian conflict: More than 4 million

Mediterranean Sea crossings by refugees and migrants so far this year: 300,000

Mediterranean Sea crossings by refugees and migrants for all of 2014: 219,000

Cap of refugees United States to accept in fiscal 2015: 70,000, unchanged from the previous year

Expected asylum seekers in Germany this year: 800,000

Prime Minister David Cameron said Monday that the UK would be willing to take in 20,000 Syrian refugees from camps near the war-torn country's borders over the next five years.

French President Francois Hollande said on Monday, dismissing opinion polls showing public opposition to the move, France is ready to take in 24,000 refugees over the next two years. Polls showing 55 percent of the French people oppose admitting more refugees or easing asylum procedures to cope with the EU's migration crisis.

Far-right, French National Front leader Marine Le Pen leading opposition to opening the borders. "Our country has neither the means, nor the energy, nor the desire to be more generous than it can be toward the world's misery," she said Sunday. "We can no longer take in anyone. That's the reality," said Le Pen, whose party opposes immigration and EU membership. She also accused Germany of seeking to recruit low-wage migrant "slaves" to replace its aging workforce. “Germany is probably thinking of its moribund demographics, and it is probably trying to lower salaries again and to continue to recruit slaves via massive immigration.”

Ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, leader of the conservative opposition Republican party, called at the weekend for detention camps to be set up in neighboring countries under EU control to filter refugees before they crossed the Mediterranean. He also repeated past calls for an end to the EU's Schengen zone of open border travel.

Pressure is mounting on Germany and other nations to scale back their generous policies welcoming refugees, with opponents, including some of the region’s most influential leaders, arguing that the promise of aid is enticing more and more asylum seekers to make a break for ­Western Europe.

Some European leaders and domestic critics blame Germany, as well as similarly generous nations such as Sweden, for offering benefits so lucrative that they had become an incentive for asylum seekers to risk their lives over land and sea.

The criticisms came as the pace of arrivals accelerated Monday. In Greece, the refugees’ first port of call, authorities requested emergency European Union assistance as islands received asylum seekers faster than they could be ferried to the mainland. Greece’s coast guard said it had rescued more than 2,000 asylum seekers in the Mediterranean Sea since Friday. And hundreds of migrants scuffled with Hungarian authorities on the border with Serbia before pushing into the country on foot.

Germany responded to the criticism Monday by announcing a reduction in cash handouts for asylum seekers during their initial months of processing, instead saying it would offer them more food stamps and in-kind aid. Berlin also said it would push to have western Balkan countries such as Kosovo declared “safe” in a bid to weed out the many thousands of migrants now claiming asylum from countries not at war.

The move in Germany to reduce cash handouts for asylum seekers came as the country is also seeking to rapidly expel those who do not qualify. During the first six months of this year, for instance, about 45 percent of people seeking asylum in Germany were Europeans from the Balkans.

The German maneuvers reflected the complex nature of Europe’s migrant crisis, in which desperate Syrians and Iraqis are searching for sanctuary in the wealthy countries of Europe’s core along with a host of economic migrants pouring in from countries as far-flung as Pakistan and Bangladesh.

“We want to reduce the number of pull factors, and I think it’s a big step forward that we have consensus in our government to reduce the monetary benefits for those seeking asylum,” said Stephan Mayer, a German national lawmaker and home affairs spokesman for the Christian Social Union, part of Merkel’s ruling coalition. Referring to criticisms by European leaders including Britain’s David Cameron and Hungary’s Viktor Orban, he said, “I can’t say that Orban or Cameron are completely wrong.”

In the crowded refugee centers across this nation of 81 million, asylum seekers admit they have come to Germany because it’s offering more help than other nations in the region.

Mohammed Mazher Alkilany, 28, a former PR consultant for the Damascus tourism board who is living in a temporary shelter in east Berlin, said his family of three is living on 233 Euros a month provided by the German government — a sum he described as too little to cover the cost of warm clothes and blankets for the coming winter.

But they are also living in free temporary housing in a building outfitted with a playground and rooms with shared kitchens, bathrooms and washing machines.

He insisted, though, that he did not come to Germany simply for its generous benefits.

“I came here because Germany is safe; there is no war,” he said. “Germany is the best in Europe. France is no good, you cannot get language classes there, but in Germany you can learn the language for free.”

Although Sweden is offering similar aid, he said it was “too far away, it is very cold, and it is always night there.”

A few European nations have been willing to set up operations to legally and safely bring, for example, Syrian refugees directly from bordering nations such as Turkey and Lebanon. But they have put strict limits on numbers, with all 28 E.U. nations offering just over 53,000 such spots since 2013, according to U.N. figures. That number pales compared with the more than 4 million Syrian refugees.

Instead, European nations have preferred to deal with ­asylum seekers only at the point when they are politically forced to — after the refugees physically cross their borders.

Cameron says Britain is acting with “head and heart” by accepting refugees only from camps around the Syrian border, while seemingly taking a jab at nations such as Germany for encouraging illegal trips by accepting so many.

The debate over whether Germany is being too generous came as more European politicians are questioning the open-door approach. “The problem is not a European problem. The problem is a German problem,” says Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

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The situation has also led to calls for the U.S. to take a greater role in the crisis by expanding its refugee program and making it easier for desperate immigrants to navigate the cumbersome and time-consuming process.

How Many Refugees Does The U.S. Accept?

The government has authorized 70,000 refugees to be resettled in the United States in fiscal year 2015, which began Oct. 1.

The cap is set by the White House, which works with Congress and takes into account funding and the potential social and economic impact of refugees in the country.

About 51,000 refugees from all over the world have been resettled here through July, according to data compiled by the Refugee Processing Center.

The State Department says the U.S. will likely reach or come close to meeting the 70,000 cap. Iraq, Bhutan, Burma, Somalia and the Democratic Republic of Congo comprise the largest makeup of refugees accepted in the U.S.

Meanwhile, only about 1,000 Syrians have been resettled in America this fiscal year.

People from countries like Egypt, Libya and Eritrea have been accepted into the U.S. at even smaller rates.

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Wealthy Gulf nations face questions over Syria refugee

As hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees languish in camps or risk their lives to reach Europe, questions are being asked about why wealthy Gulf states have accepted so few.

By the end of August, more than four million Syrians had fled their country but very few if any refugees have been officially accepted by the six countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have donated billions to help refugees, but are facing increasing scrutiny for their apparent unwillingness to accept migrants.

Why, as one of the greatest migration crises of modern times unfolds, are fellow Arab countries, with similar cultural and religious values and a relative proximity compared to Europe, doing little to help resettle people?

That That criticism is being voiced not just in the West, but within the region itself.

The Gulf nations have hardly stood on the sidelines during Syria's conflict, providing significant financial assistance to refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey.

However at the same time, they have been among the most ardent opponents of President Bashar al-Assad, backing the mainly Sunni rebels who have risen up against his regime, which is supported by their Shiite regional rival Iran.

GCC countries have also provided funds and weapons for rebel groups fighting Assad -- leading to some accusations that they are backing shadowy extremists.

But when it comes to allowing in refugees, domestic concerns seem preeminent, even though many of the refugees are Sunni Muslims like the majority of people in the Gulf.

Smaller Gulf countries like the UAE and Qatar, where millions of foreign workers already vastly outnumber local citizens, fear being overwhelmed by refugees.

Security concerns are also paramount for countries like Saudi Arabia that have been targeted in attacks by the jihadist Islamic State group operating in Syria and Iraq.

And an influx of large numbers of refugees could upset stability in countries with little grassroots political activity.

Hundreds of thousands of Syrians live among the millions of foreigners lured by work opportunities to the Gulf states -- prompting some to argue that they are already helping those fleeing the conflict.

As one anonymous Syrian wrote recently on Facebook: "Saudi has no refugees but it hosts a million Syrians on visitor visas, in addition to the Syrian residents, and they get their health care and schools, and in some cases their rents from charities."

For some in the Gulf, the criticism should be directed instead at Western governments, saying it is their failure to fully back and arm those fighting Assad that is behind the refugee crisis.

"European and American officials facing their short-sighted policies must welcome more Syrian refugees," said former Qatari diplomat Nasser Al-Khalifa.

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Five families of Syrian refugees granted asylum in Uruguay last year protested outside the president's offices on Monday, demanding they be allowed to leave the South American country in search of better jobs, even back in the Middle East.

Uruguay accepted the 42 Syrians fleeing civil war in October 2014, but the families said they felt the leftist government had failed to deliver on a promise of good incomes.

"I am not afraid to go back to Lebanon," said 36-year-old Aldees Maher, whose family had initially sought safety in a refugee camp across the border from Syria. "I want a place that guarantees me, my family a life."

In Uruguay, a secular country with a tiny Muslim population of about 300, the refugees receive housing, health care, education and financial support from the government.

Even so, they have struggled to settle in and relations with locals have been strained.

"I don't have any way of getting a job to earn enough money and look after the family. Before we came, the embassy told us we could earn $1,500 a month," said Maher.

Maher and his family returned to Uruguay after spending 20 days in Istanbul's airport in August after immigration officials refused them entry to Turkey.

"If they want to go, they can. But it is not up to us whether another country allows them entry," said Javier Miranda, head of the human rights secretariat inside the presidency.

One 22-year-old Syrian who identified herself as Sanaa said she felt deceived by Uruguay's treatment of the refugee group.

"It's not what they said it would be like here. We want to leave," she said.

Another group of 80 Syrian refugees is expected to land in the country before the end of the year.

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Iraqi, Syrian and Afghan immigrants at the Hungarian-Serbian border are complaining and fighting with Hungarian police.

At being prevented from leaving a holding site and heading on to a transit camp near Roszke, Hungary, where they can register as refugees and continue their journey, they’re asking "Why are they treating us like this?"

One Hungarian nonprofit was on site handing out biscuits, fruit and water, and a medical tent was erected Monday.

Meanwhile, Austria and Germany warned they can't keep up with the influx of refugees and said they must begin to slow the pace.

More than 16,000 migrants have streamed into Austria since Saturday.

Virtually all continued to Germany, where the city of Munich had received more than 17,500 people.

"We must now, step by step, go from emergency measures to a normality that is humane and complies with the law," Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann said.

The United Nations' refugee agency, UNHCR, estimates that more than 366,000 refugees and migrants have crossed the Mediterranean Sea to Europe this year.

At least 2,800 have died or disappeared during the journey.

Not every European country is opening its arms.

Denmark, for instance, paid for ads in Arabic in four Lebanese newspapers to get the word out about its own new, tightened restrictions -- such as reducing social benefits -- to try to prevent refugees from getting into the Scandinavian nation.

"We cannot simply keep up with the present flow," Immigration and Integration Minister Inger Stojberg, a member of the right-wing Venstre Party, said on Facebook. "In light of the huge influx to Europe these days, there is good reason for us to tighten rules and get that effectively communicated."

Many of the migrants arrive with harrowing tales of crossing the Mediterranean, then walking from Greece through Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and finally into Austria.

Austria's border with Hungary remains open to potential refugees, Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman Alexander Marakovits said Sunday, as packed buses and trains continued to arrive.

One man who recently arrived in Austria talked of the family's difficult journey through Hungary. "We went through a torture," he said, standing next to his two daughters. "We walked 110 kilometers (70 miles) with the children. They didn't allow us to take cars or trains." But he said the Hungarian people "were very nice" and the situation got better when the family arrived in Austria. "We are comfortable here, and we like the people and the government of Austria."

Of the thousands who arrived in Austria this weekend, a dozen or so have opted to apply for asylum there, the country's Interior Ministry said. Many want to go farther, particularly to Germany.

Attacks against refugees on the rise

But the dangers don't stop once refugees reach Germany.

At least 340 attacks have taken place on refugee camps in Germany this year, the Interior Ministry said. Most of the incidents are believed to be fueled by radical right-wing, anti-immigrant sentiment.

The attacks include vandalism, hate speech and arson, as well as violent attacks on people.

At least 38 violent assaults have been recorded this year, up from 28 last year.

On Monday, another suspicious fire broke out at a house for asylum seekers in Rottenburg am Neckar, police said. Five people were injured -- three by smoke inhalation and two by jumping out of the building's first and second floors.

European Union countries have an open-border policy that allows the free movement of people between member states. While Germany, France and other countries are opening their doors to more migrants, countries such as Hungary and Austria are clamping down on the flow.

Hungary's right-wing government, trying to stop the flood of migrants, has erected a barbed wire fence along its more than 160-kilometer (100-mile) border with Serbia to prevent them from crossing there. Serbia is not an EU country.

[kscarbel2]

There are so many angles to this.

As always, it is the innocent children that truly suffer.

Within five years, the new immigrants in Europe are going to be complaining that:

1. You’re not taking good enough care of us

2. You don’t really like us

3. You don’t provide us with good paying jobs

4. You’re discriminating against us

Western Europe is a wonderful place to exist, not unlike the US. Great climate, ect.

However, it’s not rationally possible for everyone to go live there. The glass is full.

I’ve no clue what Merkel is trying to prove. Though Germany has a relatively low 4.7 percent unemployment rate, that’s much due to Germany’s government supported unions which are making Germany less and less competitive.

The EU as a whole for 2015 has a 9.7 percent unemployment rate (the US is allegedly at 5.3 percent).

Another issue is the easy infiltration of terrorist cells into the EU countries. With the normal security mechanisms presently turned off, as though going online with your anti-virus software disabled (something you'd never do), terrorist groups can easily mix hordes of operatives in with the vast ocean of immigrants. None of their backgrounds can be vetted.......the EU countries are just taking names. Knowing how badly the radical Islamist look for opportunities to commit terrorism in the Western countries that are their sworn enemies................It's a scary possibility for Western Europe.

If the US had given in to Russia on Syria and allowed Assad to remain in power, we could have in return seen a US-Russian joint military force stomp ISIS out of existence (Give Putin an opportunity to hold his head high and he'll do almost anything for you).

ISIS is headed by former Chechnyan rebels and ruthless Hussein era Iraqi military that both Russia and the US would like to annihilate. With the Russians beginning a sweep from the west, and the US sweeping from the east, and with no modern-times restrictions on the military commanders, they could carry a big stick (as former “can-do” U.S. Presideent Teddy Roosevelt would say) and remove ALL elements of ISIS from this earth, relocating them to the infernal region (as George S. Patton would say).

This unprecedented cooperation between the two major super powers that so often disagree would send the strongest of messages to all evil elements remaining in the world that the US and Russia will no longer hesitate to cooperate and eradicate evil, utilizing a “no holds barred” iron fist approach (the nice guy approach having failed, we will fight as ruthlessly as they do.....also without mercy)

[41chevy]

To bad the Government and the people do not realize that some times what is morally right is more important than what is politically correct or best for their party.

[grayhair]

Maybe the refugees should be dispatched to the various European countries according to the percentage of Syrian oil and goods that those countries import. (Financing Assad.)

These huge numbers of refugees will overwhelm the European social programs. With so many of the refugees being young adults, what happens when these families, now comfortable in their new homes, produce 2 or 3 additional children? Massive unemployment, rampant crime, riots... I predict the eventual collapse or dissolution of the EU. Could be only several years from now.

[41chevy]

Maybe the refugees should be dispatched to the various European countries according to the percentage of Syrian oil and goods that those countries import. (Financing Assad.)

These huge numbers of refugees will overwhelm the European social programs. With so many of the refugees being young adults, what happens when these families, now comfortable in their new homes, produce 2 or 3 additional children? Massive unemployment, rampant crime, riots... I predict the eventual collapse or dissolution of the EU. Could be only several years from now.

The U.N. mandates which member country gets how many. The "suggestion" to Obama was 350,000 and for him to ask Syria declare them "Emergency Refugees" which over comes the U.S. Limit of 70,000.

[Red Horse]

Watching the "Five at Five" on Fox tonight. Dana Perino nailed it IMO when she said words to effect this is a situation that calls for governments and their military to take the action to correct the conditions that are causing these people to flee. Again, We and the EU can spend all kinds of money trying to accomodate resettle these people or the money can be spent to correct the conditions that are CAUSING the dislocations. Many would say-"none of our business" but we end up paying anyway-so what is the best option???

and by the way-looks to me like for every one that looks like a true "refugee" fleeing from some horror, I seem to see some young dude with nice clothes and a cell phone- like-"where's the free stuff"??

[kscarbel2]

"this is a situation that calls for governments and their military to take the action to correct the conditions that are causing these people to flee"

A key point, and yet there is no dedicated effort by the powers who can successfully accomplish such a mission to see it thru.

Given the Russian connection with Assad, they must be involved in a military solution. And the fact is, they have one of the best military capabilities. ISIS is as much of a problem for Russia as it is for the US and the rest of the world. If we worked together on common goals once in a while, we could get along better the rest of the time.

Note what I posted above, that MANY of the immigrants (refugees) are not from Syria. No one can blame people for seeking a better life in a higher-life-quality country, but the EU simply can't accommodate the staggering numbers we're seeing.

[kscarbel2]

I was expecting this, and many of the points are all too true (though this story only scratches the surface). When one is covertly involved in regime change, one can no longer claim to be “Mr. Clean”.

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Frustrated migrants blame U.S. for their predicament

The Washington Post / September 11, 2015

If he ever got the chance, he’d settle in the United States, Rzgar Abdul said. But for now, he lives in this spare, barracks-style refugee camp, placing much of the blame for his squalid existence on the United States.

After all, the Islamic State proliferated when U.S. forces pulled out of an unstable country. And that proliferation forced him to leave his home, said Abdul, 28, who is from the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

“Iraq’s problem is America’s problem,” said Abdul, who said he was a translator for the United States during the Iraq war, making him a target. “This crisis is America’s problem. In Iraq, Syria, all over, the U.S. did not do enough.”

From the squalid migrant campgrounds in Hungary to the offices of Europe’s elected officials, many others also saw the swell of migrants crossing borders as evidence of a failed U.S. foreign policy. Even as President Obama declared that the country would extend asylum to 10,000 Syrians, many blamed the United States for the migration crisis that has walloped Europe.

In Germany, it is rare that the distant reaches of the political left and right agree on anything. But they do now: The United States is at fault.

Sahra Wagenknecht and Dietmar Bartsch, deputy chairpersons of the Left Party in the German Parliament, last week savaged U.S. policy in the Middle East.

“Killer gangs, such as the Islamic State, were indirectly supported and without hindrance supplied with money and weapons from countries including those allied with Germany,” the two alleged in a policy paper, referring to early efforts to back rebels fighting the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Others have argued that the United States did not do enough to back the rebels and remove Assad.

“When the Left Party is right, it is right,” Alexander Gauland, deputy chairman of the conservative and populist Alternative for Germany party, said in an interview with the right-wing German weekly Junge Freiheit. “America bears a lot of blame for the flow of refugees.”

Officials in the United States call the criticism overblown. The CIA spent $1 billion to fund early efforts to unseat Assad. Others have argued that no one could have foreseen the magnitude of the war in Syria.

“It’s too easy to blame the U.S. for these waves of refugees and asylum seekers,” said Stephan Mayer, spokesman for the Christian Social Union, a part of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s governing coalition. “This isn’t caused by the U.S.”

In Britain, the crisis has renewed old arguments about the country’s commitment to the Middle East. In 2013, British Prime Minister David Cameron suffered a major blow when the House of Commons voted against British military action in Syria. The vote helped to deter U.S. intervention in Syria over allegations that Assad’s forces were using chemical weapons.

Despite both countries’ strong language against the Islamic State and Assad’s government, U.S. and British commentators have criticized their nations’ policies as wishy-washy.

“I think the tone here is, above all, you start something and you fail to pick up the pieces — that’s the story of Iraq,” said Iain Begg, a professor at the London School of Economics who specializes in the political economy of the European Union. “And in Libya, it was, you push out [Moammar] Gaddafi, and then what?”

Jebrail Mohamed, 26, thought he knew what happened next when the United States did not use more manpower in Syria. That led to hundreds of thousands of deaths in Syria and the need for Mohamed to leave the city of Aleppo.

Then came the crossing into Hungary and eventually being sent to a processing center to wait for a passport. In this countryside camp, Mohamed receives 20 euros a day and takes comfort in walking with friends to the local grocery store, the closest thing to entertainment nearby.

“We have no country left,” Mohamed said. “Now all we do is wait for passports to go somewhere. Wait. Wait.”

As he spoke, a man walked out of the gate to go to the grocery store.

“I’m going to Germany,” he joked.

The European Union on Friday delayed until next month its efforts to begin a proposed refu­gee resettlement program, a reflection of internal disputes over how to deal with the crush of asylum seekers.

Advocates of the resettlement plan had hoped the E.U. would find common ground Monday on a formula to place as many as 160,000 migrants among 22 countries.

Many officials have cried foul. Denmark plans to reject the plan. Foreign ministers from the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary issued a joint statement Friday calling for the E.U. to create a “more balanced distribution of finances” as well as a greater role “contributing to the international efforts in resolving the ongoing crisis in Syria and Iraq.”

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban lashed out against the migrants and vowed that tougher law enforcement would begin Tuesday.

“They seized railway stations, rejected giving fingerprints, failed to cooperate and are unwilling to go to places where they would get food, water, accommodation and medical care,” Orban said at a news conference Friday. “They rebelled against Hungarian legal order.”

Meanwhile, rights groups and others stepped up pressure for improvements at various bottlenecks where conditions are “inhumane,” including a center in southern Hungary where video appeared to show penned migrants scrambling for food thrown by security personnel.

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"this is a situation that calls for governments and their military to take the action to correct the conditions that are causing these people to flee"

A key point, and yet there is no dedicated effort by the powers who can successfully accomplish such a mission to see it thru.

Given the Russian connection with Assad, they must be involved in a military solution. And the fact is, they have one of the best military capabilities. ISIS is as much of a problem for Russia as it is for the US and the rest of the world. If we worked together on common goals once in a while, we could get along better the rest of the time.

Note what I posted above, that MANY of the immigrants (refugees) are not from Syria. No one can blame people for seeking a better life in a higher-life-quality country, but the EU simply can't accommodate the staggering numbers we're seeing.

This revelation relates to my thought process. Ironic that we're only hearing about this now.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside

We're not always going to agree with or trust the Russian government. But there will be times, as in WW2, when we need to cooperate with them for the greater good. And handled properly, that cooperation can lead to a better "working relationship" at other times.

With the current administration having gone with a very poorly thought out ISIS and frankly close-minded, arrogant Syria strategy, Europe is now overflowing with refugees it realistically can't support, hundreds of people including children have died senselessly in this convoluted migration, the Middle East is in a state of chaos. Well done, and I fear terrorist cells have seized the recent open door opportunity to enter Europe.

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Migrants are disguising themselves as Syrians Refugees to enter Europe

The Washington Post / September 23, 2015

Moving among the tens of thousands of Syrian war refugees passing through the train stations of Europe are many who are neither Syrian nor refugees, but hoping to blend into the mass migration and find a back door to the West.

There are well-dressed Iranians speaking Farsi who insist they are members of the persecuted Yazidis of Iraq. There are Indians who don’t speak Arabic but say they are from Damascus. There are Pakistanis, Albanians, Egyptians, Kosovars, Somalis and Tunisians from countries with plenty of poverty and violence, but no war.

It should come as no surprise that many migrants seem to be pretending they are someone else. The prize, after all, is the possibility of benefits, residency and work in Europe.

Leaders in Germany and other European states say they are prepared to award asylum to legitimate refugees from countries such as Syria, Iraq and Eritrea, but they are issuing more strident warnings that they will reject many of the economic migrants streaming over their borders.

“What we see here has nothing to do with seeking refuge and safety,” Austrian Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner said Monday. “It is nothing but opportunism.”

Many of the asylum seekers tell journalists and aid workers that they are from Syria, even if they are not, under the assumption that a Syrian shoemaker fleeing bombed-out Aleppo will be welcome, while a computer programmer from Kosovo will not be.

It is common knowledge on the migratory route that some who are not from Syria shred their real passports in Turkey and simply fake it.

A couple of reporters, one a native Arabic speaker, who wandered through train stations in Vienna found plenty of newcomers whose accents did not match their stories and whose stories did not make sense.

Swimming in the river of humanity are shady characters, too, admitted criminals, Islamic State sympathizers and a couple of guys from Fallujah, one with a fresh bullet wound, who when asked their occupation seemed confused.

“Army,” said one. His friend corrected him. “We’re all drivers,” he said.

The refugees report that a forged Syrian passport can be bought on the Turkish border for as little as $200. A reporter for Britain’s Daily Mail bought a Syrian passport, ID card and driver’s license for $2,000 in Turkey under the name of a real man who was killed in the conflict.

An Austrian security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there are also thriving black markets for Syrian passports in Croatia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria. But most are arriving in Vienna without ever having shown a passport or document to officials, as long as they travel in the stream of asylum seekers. Authorities along the way may ask for names and countries of origin, but they are not scrutinizing documents. Opportunists can easily pass through borders simply claiming to be Syrians, often without offering any proof.

There are enough pretenders that true Syrians complain about ersatz Syrians.

Syrian war refugees said Europe offered a welcome to them but that opportunists will quickly wear out the continent’s welcome, if they haven’t already.

“Look at these people, what are they doing here? We are the ones who are fleeing from war and slaughter, and now these men are taking away our space,” said Mustafa, 62, from Syria. He had stopped to help a woman who had fainted, letting a group of Afghans use the opportunity to cut in line.

“I don’t understand — we thought the Europeans invited Syrians like us to come,” said one of Mustafa’s companions.

Blending in with real refugees

At Vienna Westbahnhof railway station, a tight clutch of men lined up at the ticket windows. Days of rough travel lay behind them. All had one aim: Germany.

When asked by a reporter where they were from, the men answered, “We are from Syria.”

When a reporter switched to the North African dialect, the men laughed nervously. “We are Algerians,” they admitted.

Hamza, 27, is from Algiers. “I am illegal, not refugee,” he said. “In my country, the only thing you can do there is either drugs or crimes. So I was in prison several times, for drugs, also for trying to kill another guy.”

Hamza and his mates went to Turkey because the smuggling route to Sardinia has been shut down.

“We flew to Istanbul and then took a bus to Izmir. There we destroyed our passports and just mixed with the Syrian refugees. We then took the boat from Izmir to Greece. From there to Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and now we are in Vienna,” he said.

Did Hamza feel guilty? Not at all.

“It’s really easy now to travel with these refugees. We received food and shelter, and a nice welcoming from people so far.”

He said he has met Tunisians, Moroccans and Libyans playing the same game.

“So when someone asks us, where do you live? We say Damascus. Where are you from? Answer Syria.”

An Austrian aid volunteer at the train station, Hisham Fares, is of Libyan descent and has worked as an interpreter helping asylum seekers find their way in the present confusion.

[For desperate refugees, ‘the smuggler’s room is over there’]

“There are people who are trying to benefit from the situation. I’ve met Egyptians who claimed they were Syrians, but the dialect is Egyptian. I’ve also met people from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia or Libya who all are now flying to Istanbul and then go to Izmir where they destroy passports,” Fares said. “I’ve also met Palestinians who live in camps in Lebanon and now claim they were from Yarmouk camp in Syria. Many of them said they have family in Germany and just use this situation to finally get asylum.”

“Most of these people say they’ve lost their passports,” Fares added. “The sad thing is that those Syrians who really are fleeing war will be the ones paying the price.”

Another group of men, standing in line for free food, spoke English among themselves but with an Indian accent.

One said his name was “Hassan.”

“We grew up in Syria; our fathers worked there for many years,” Hassan said.

He had worked in Syria, in a bank, in Damascus, he said.

When a reporter spoke to them in Arabic, the men smiled and said, “No Arabic, only English.” Asked where they lived in Damascus, they couldn’t really say.

They excused themselves and wandered away.

Screening out impostors

Confronting a surge in migrants falsely claiming to be from war-torn nations, European authorities are seeking to bolster screening efforts, particularly at gateway nations such as Greece and Italy.

Ewa Moncure, a spokeswoman for Frontex, the European Union’s border agency, said officials are deploying interpreters to assess accents and are using geographic and other questions to weed out pretenders.

“You have interpreters working with officers, and they are asking questions,” she said. “If someone claims to be from Syria and he can’t say what the currency is or what the main street is in Damascus, there are going to be questions about his claim.”

Frontex, she said, is moving to double its staff in Greece in the coming weeks to at least 140 people, an effort that may help the agency identify more false refugees. Those identified as such, she said, should be detained and processed for rapid deportations.

But Greece has been so overwhelmed by the sheer numbers that many are slipping through.

Most economic migrants and war refugees in Vienna say they have arrived without being photographed, fingerprinted or subjected to biometric measurements. Some of the new arrivals will make claims to stay based on threat of persecution because of clan or religion; others may seek to be reunited with family already in Europe. And some may never try to become legal residents, but live in the shadows.

It will take months to sort out their stories.

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“From today, 15 September, in Hungary, crossing the border illegally is a crime."

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“We don’t know who these individuals are. Any idea (that) you can do a background check of someone that’s been living in Syria is absolutely ridiculous. These are dangerous times, whether people want to admit it or not. We want to keep the war out of Mississippi, here on the homefront.”

Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant

"It is irresponsible and severely disconcerting to place individuals, who may have ties to ISIS, in a state without the state's knowledge or involvement."

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

"There is virtually no vetting because there are no databases in Syria, there are no government records. We don't know who these people are."

New York Rep. Peter King

"It's not that we don't want to -- it's that we can't, because there's no way to background check someone that's coming from Syria."

Florida Senator Marco Rubio.

"The governor doesn't believe the U.S. should accept additional Syrian refugees because security and safety issues cannot be adequately addressed. The governor is writing to the President to ask him to stop, and to ask him to stop resettling them in Ohio. We are also looking at what additional steps Ohio can take to stop resettlement of these refugees."

Ohio Governor John Kasich spokesman Jim Lynch

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States whose governors oppose refugees (unvetted economic migrants):

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming

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Italy suspects ISIS is sending thousands of migrants across the Mediterranean

Business Insider  /  August 3, 2016

Italy is investigating whether ISIS is involved in organizing the passage of tens of thousands of migrants across the Mediterranean.

The Turkey to Greece migration route has been largely shut down since a repatriation deal was struck between the European Union and Ankara in March, but hundreds of people are arriving in Italy every day, mostly from Libya.

Criminal gangs have taken advantage of chaos in Libya to charge mainly sub-Saharan Africans, looking for a better life in Europe [economic migrants], hundreds of dollars to make the voyage.

"There is an investigation underway focused on whether ISIS has crucial roles in controlling and managing migrant flows to Italy," Justice Minister Andrea Orlando told a parliamentary committee.

He told the hearing on immigration, Europe's border-free Schengen accord and the activity of European police agency Europol that details of the investigation were secret.

"The risks we have to take on are high," he said, adding there was also a suspicion the militants were trying to influence where in Italy migrants were eventually placed.

The militant group has made money by selling oil from fields it seized in the Middle East and North Africa and from plundering weapons and ammunition.

Militant groups have smuggled members into Europe among the migrants, German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said.

More than 257,000 migrants and refugees have entered Europe by sea this year, it said.

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Italy: ISIS Fighters Are Posing as Refugees in Our Camps

Associated Press  /  May 10, 2016

A string of arrests suggest that ISIS recruiters have infiltrated the asylum centers full of desperate migrants.

The Bari-Palese CARA Refugee Reception Center in Italy’s southern province of Puglia was built to host 850 refugees. These days, it’s overflowing with 1,389—mostly men from Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Bangladesh who wait behind high walls and spirals of barbed wire for their political-asylum applications to be heard.

The refugee center is a hotbed of discontent, and most of the men who stay there would rather be just about anywhere else.

In 2013, a Kurdish refugee was killed there in a violent riot that started as a protest against maltreatment. Since then, the camp gates are left open so the refugees and migrants can come and go as they please. 

Early Tuesday, Italian anti-mafia police (also responsible for anti-terrorism) entered the camp and arrested Hakim Nasiri, a 23-year-old from Afghanistan, on international terrorism charges. He had been granted provisional political asylum on May 5, despite the fact that undercover detectives posing as refugees inside the camp had been trailing his suspicious movements since December.

Among the pictures found on his cellphone was one with the mayor of Bari, Antonio Decaro, taken at a rally in support of integrating Italy’s growing immigrant communities. Other photos confiscated by police show Nasiri brandishing semi-automatic weapons in unidentifiable gun shops.

At the same time across town, police also arrested Gulistan Ahmadzai, 29, also from Afghanistan, on charges he abetted illegal immigration specifically related to the alleged recruitment of jihadi fighters who he helped bring into Europe as well as a connection to “Islamic fundamentalists associated with attacks in Paris and Belgium.”

On his computer, police said they found propaganda material for “jihadi fighters sympathetic to the Islamic State” and instruction manuals for building explosives.

According to the arrest warrant, he represented the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, an ISIS splinter group that broke off from the Taliban.

Ahmadzai had been given full political asylum in September 2011 and may have helped Nasiri reach Italy.

Police said three other men— Ahmadzai Qari Khesta, Ahmadzai Surgul, and Amjad Zulfiqar—are affiliated with the alleged terrorist cell, and are still at large.

Italian investigators first discovered the network last December when they stopped four foreigners who were capturing video of a large commercial center in Bari with a cellphone. They sequestered the phone, which they said led them to the rest of the suspects arrested Tuesday.

Several of the suspects had apparently taken low-cost flights from Bari to Paris in December 2015. They are also accused of playing an integral role in a human-trafficking ring that facilitates the illegal travel of migrants from southern Italy to Calais, France, and Hungary.

Roberto Rossi, Puglia’s anti-mafia district director, said the men in custody had photos and videos on their cellphones of the Coliseum and Circus Maximus in Rome and the tourist cruise ship port and a large shopping center in Bari that were of “no tourist value,” he said. “They were inspections by the cell to carry out attacks.” 

The men also had a number of photos and videos of hotels, shopping centers, and apartment blocks in suburban London, including the Sunborn Yacht Hotel, which is permanently docked in the East London Royal Docks, as well as the South Quay Foot drawbridge to Canary Wharf and the entrances of the Premier Inn London Stratford and the Ibis Styles London Excel, which are uninspiring moderate-for-London hotels in the area.

“This was an organization planning an attack through the preliminary inspection of the locations, including photographic and video documentation,” Rossi said. “They were clearly planning terrorist attacks at airports, ports, law-enforcement buildings, commercial centers, hotels, as well as other unspecified terrorist attacks in Italy and England."

Rossi said the men also had images of weapons and “star” Taliban militants as well as audio files of “prayers and proselytization chants relating to the indoctrination of radical Islam.” He said the men also had collected video tributes to apparent relatives and friends who were being held at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, as well as a computer in Ahmadzai’s apartment with radical-Islam recruitment propaganda and manuals for building explosives.

Before the arrests, European counterterrorism forces had come under scrutiny by aid agencies for effectively “terrorist-hunting” in refugee camps in Italy and Greece. There has been a fierce debate about whether or not terrorists could come into Italy and Greece through the migrant trails.

Nearly 29,000 migrants and refugees have arrived in Italy from Libya since the beginning of 2016, compared to more than 155,000 who have arrived in Greece via Turkey, though there have been no Greek arrivals “documented” yet in May, after a contentious agreement that includes sending refugees back to Turkey.

Out of fears that terrorists have infiltrated the refugees, Europol said it recently sent some 150 agents into the camps in Italy and Greece to screen suspect refugees who might be sympathetic to ISIS.

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US poised to take in 10,000 Syrian refugees by September

Associated Press  /  August 5, 2016

After a slow start, it appears increasingly likely that the Obama administration will hit its goal of admitting 10,000 Syrian refugees [economic migrants and terrorists] into the United States before the end of September.

State Department figures show that 2,340 Syrian refugees arrived last month in the United States.

That's more than what occurred during the entire seven months after President Barack Obama directed his team to prepare for 10,000 admissions from the war-torn country. Total admissions for the current budget year, which ends Sept. 30, now come to about 7,900, and the vast majority of them are Sunni Muslims, records show.

If the pace from June and July continues this month, the target should be reached with a couple weeks to spare before Obama heads to the United Nations to urge world leaders to admit more refugees and to increase funding for relief organizations. The U.N. General Assembly is holding a summit to address the large movements of refugees and migrants that stems primarily from conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.

Obama would have been hard-pressed to make the case for other countries to do more with the U.S. failing to reach a goal that amounts to only about 2 percent of the 480,000 Syrian refugees in need of resettlement. [Are they actually in need of resettlement?…..Or should those able bodied men being staying and fighting for their country?]

Organizations that help relocate Syrian refugees said the White House and other administration officials have grown increasingly confident of hitting the target.

"They put more resources on it, which is allowing more individual's to be processed and therefore able to travel," said Stacie Blake, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, one of nine groups that help resettle Syrian refugees.

Obama's call for 10,000 entries this year was criticized by most Republican governors and the GOP presidential candidates, who argued that the government lacked an adequate screening system to prevent suspected terrorists from slipping into the U.S.

Extremist attacks in Europe and the U.S. have increased concerns about immigration.

An Associated Press-GfK poll conducted in early July showed that 69 percent of Republicans say they favor the temporary ban on Muslim immigration.

Overall, Americans opposed such a ban by a margin of 52 percent to 45 percent. [And yet every American we know is for the ban….hmm]

Rep. Vern Buchanan, R-Fla., sent a letter to Obama on Thursday calling on him to stop accepting Syrian refugees as a matter of national security.

"We are seeing a clear pattern in which a number of recent attacks have been carried out by ISIS terrorists with ties to Syria," Buchanan said. He cited the killing of a French priest, the murder of a German woman with a machete and a bombing at a German music festival as examples.

The White House has emphasized that the screening process for refugees takes 12 months to 18 months and includes in-person interviews and a review of biographical and biometric information. The administration also has said it is focused on bringing in refugees who are in the most desperate situations, such as families with children and those in need of medical care. In the year prior to Obama's new target, the U.S. accepted about 1,680 Syrian refugees.

Secretary of State John Kerry, speaking with reporters during a visit to Buenos Aires, Argentina, said the United States has developed "sufficient methods" of screening would-be refugees.

"We are very comfortable that we are bringing people in who will be a great plus to our country." Kerry said.

Kerry said that "not one event in the United States, of terror" has been committed by a refugee allowed to resettle in the U.S.

But two Iraqi refugees were arrested in 2011 for plotting to send weapons and money to al-Qaida operatives fighting against U.S. troops back in Iraq. The scheme was foiled, but the case did leave jitters about whether extremists could slip in among the Syrian refugees.

"We believe ... the people who are fleeing Syria are the most harmed by terrorism. They are parents. They are children. They are orphans," Kerry said. "It is very important that we do not close our hearts to the victims of such violence."

Kerry also applauded Argentina's pledge to resettle 3,000 Syrian refugees in the South American country and said the United States is committed to working with the government there on security issues.

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Nice clean clothes and shoes.

No ordinarily prudent person would say these trendy, mostly well-dressed individuals fit the description of "refugees".

Where are the women, the mothers?

Where are the children?

The majority of the alleged refugees are well-fed able-bodied young men (Hmm)...........who want to come "milk" the west, without any respect for it.

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[41chevy]

On 8/5/2016 at 10:20 PM, kscarbel2 said:

Nice clean clothes and shoes.

No ordinarily prudent person would say these trendy, mostly well-dressed individuals fit the description of "refugees".

Where are the women, the mothers?

Where are the children?

The majority of the alleged refugees are well-fed able-bodied young men (Hmm)...........who want to come "milk" the west, without any respect for it.

Seems to me bringing them here is part of his promise to "make America more like Europe". UN-vetted "refugees", freebies for them and the freedom for profiling, persecution and more. He does have the presidential power to up he amount of "refugees" to 70,000.  Scared yet? Remember Hillary supports a massive influx of refuges also.     Paul

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Immigration into the United States reached its peak between 1880 and 1920.

Our policies on immigration, our thought process, can not today be the same as before.

That was then..........this is now.

Our situation today is 100 percent unlike the United States of that time some 100 years ago.

Our house is full.

Our life support functions are already working far over their designed capacity.

Speaking of "these" alleged refugees, who in reality are economic migrants alike the ones that have Europe in chaos, their Islamic Law (Sharia) -based religion, literally, clashes with western culture and values.

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Merkel tells Turks in Germany to ‘develop a high level of loyalty’

The Financial Times  /  August 23, 2016

Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned Germany’s Turkish population to “develop a high level of loyalty” to their new homeland, in the latest sign of political concern about divided allegiances in the Turkish community. 

Her remarks on Tuesday come amid fears that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is pressing Turks living abroad to show greater loyalty to Ankara and its brand of Islamism as part of the wide-ranging crackdown following the failed military coup.

“We expect from people of Turkish origin, who have already lived in Germany a long time, that they develop a high level of loyalty to our country,” Ms Merkel said in an interview with a regional newspaper group. 

She also warned both supporters and opponents of the authoritarian Turkish president to avoid stirring political violence. “The freedom of thought and of holding demonstrations is valid in Germany for everybody who lives here, but of course all their differences of opinion must be argued out peacefully.” 

Ms Merkel’s unusually tough message is clearly designed to give her conservative CDU party a boost in two regional elections next month — in rural Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Berlin — where the rightwing anti-migration, anti-Islam Alternative for Germany is gaining ground.

But it also reflects government fears about political radicalisation among the country’s 3 million ethnic Turks, who are split roughly 50-50 between German and Turkish citizens. The political controversy could complicate Ms Merkel’s efforts to keep in place the EU-Turkey refugee pact, which is under growing criticism in Germany for the concessions made to Mr Erdogan, including the soft-pedaling of criticism of his post-coup crackdown.

The Bundestag’s intelligence committee agreed this week to examine the possible role of Turkish intelligence in Germany following claims from an unnamed security expert that Ankara has a network of 6,000 informants spying on the Turkish community and is possibly applying pressure on Mr Erdogan’s critics. 

Last week, a leaked German government report described Ankara as a “central platform of action” for radical Islamist groups. Berlin has long co-operated with Ankara in the fight against Islamist terror groups and the Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK), the armed separatist group. But it is concerned that Mr Erdogan is widening his “terrorist” definition to include a range of political enemies, notably followers of Fethullah Gulen, a self-exiled US-based imam. 

Michael Müller, Berlin mayor, recently said that he had rejected a request from a “Turkish government representative” to take action against Gulenists. 

The Turkish president also has considerable influence over community organisations, including Ditib, an umbrella body for 900 Turkish mosques. Alongside it stands the UETD, an EU-wide political lobby group representing émigré Turkish interests, closely linked to Mr Erdogan’s ruling AKP party. 

Ditib rejects any claims that suggest it is an instrument of a foreign country. However, some German political leaders are questioning its influence, notably over Muslim education in schools, where in some regions it assists with appointing teachers.

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Most of these "economic migrants" (alleged refugees) have no loyalty whatsoever to Germany. They're there for all of the free welfare handouts and the higher pay jobs. For them, it's like working "out of town". They never really adapt to the German way of life, rather, they stick to themselves. The Germans are to blame for all their woes. They don't like the Turks and other migrants in their country, and yet they want them there to do all the menial jobs that Germans now largely refuse to do.