B MACK Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have looked thru MACK Model B books that have photos of lots of different B's and have every B model listed and state the number produced and years produced in. I don't recall seeing a B85. I always understood that B70's & B80's series had the longer hood, and B80's had square or flat fenders. But I have seen photos in "wheels of time" and some truck papers of B models (fire trucks or that once were fire trucks), they are listed as B85's. They are definitely B models, but have round fenders and short hoods..... Was a B85 specificly and only a fire truck? Or a miss print? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 There was a B85 fire truck which looks like a regular B and a B85 with flat construction fenders.Only 77 B85's were made with flat construction fenders. Don't have production number for B85 fire trucks. 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekennedy21 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I believe that the B-85 was a mack B80 series with a 275hp or 290hp cummins in it 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I've always wondered about the B85 also (81 style). Would like to know the details! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted September 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2015 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hicrop10 Posted September 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have a B87 as a tractor we brought new in 1964,I can tell you this much it's a real animal. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddeere Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What about the B 86 . The photo archives list 5 made. No pictures. There is a picture of a B 85 MOCK-UP. Has anyone ever seen a B 86 ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Going to be one scarce doggie.Haven't seen one. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I've seen the 80 series military fender B85 in the photo book endorsed by Mack...and that's only one picture. I've heard of and seen the fire apparatus with standard round fenders in many places. If you see one the other kind, buy it! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Ditchkus Posted September 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2015 There were 455 B-85 Fire Truck made from 1954-1966.There were 77 B-85 flat fendered made from 1956-1964 with Cummins NHBS 743 cu.in at 275 hp.or 290 hp.The B-853 had NTO-6-B 743 cu.in. 262 hp or 280 hp.there were 29 made.There were 5 B-86's made from 1957-1959 no engine information. Joe D. 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-302974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The B model fire truck model designations were based on the size of the pump that the truck was equipped with. A B-75 was 500 gpm, a B-85 was 750 gpm, a B-95 was 1000 gpm, and the B-21 was 1250 gpm. All of them except for the B-21 were basic B model cabs with the B-21 having a stretched nose to accommodate a Hall-Scott engine. 2 Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b615rich Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 But if I remember correctly, the B-85 is one of those rare Mack exceptions - odd series number, but almost all are gas engines (not a surprise though as most were fire trucks). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b615rich Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 B-85 at the Mack Museum today. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 B-85 at the Mack Museum today.image.jpgThey made 455 of those, and 77 of the standard "81" style B85's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHfred Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Based on the build list that the museum sent me a few years ago there were 29 B 853s built between 1956 and 1965.MACK model production.rtf Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 never claim to know it all,,,,but i thought they were all flat fendered myself...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 another interesting topic, not to hyjack this one but somewhere I read that Armaducci's single axle Maroon B81 is really a B80 and it came from the factory with a 413 Chrysler industrial. I would have never thought that would be an option, a small gas engine... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 With that set up, open the hood and try to find the engine! Would also need some gears to do much. Would be interesting to know the history and why the 413 was specified instead of the stock 707. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Would be interesting to know the history and why the 413 was specified instead of the stock 707Just a guess on my part, but it was probably for the US government. They seemed to be the big buyer of the Chrysler powered B models. Considering that it was probably specced by someone in DC who had no idea what and where the truck would be used for it is not surprising it would be bought with a small engine in the name of standardization. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/gallery/image/14976-1959-b85fmagirus/They made 4 B85's for Chicago that look like this. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phase 1 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 another interesting topic, not to hyjack this one but somewhere I read that Armaducci's single axle Maroon B81 is really a B80 and it came from the factory with a 413 Chrysler industrial. I would have never thought that would be an option, a small gas engine...Would that have been a B-86? There were five of those listed and often with a different motor the number would change. I wouldn't be surprised if the 413 truck motor had as much or more power than a 707. They were popular in big Dodge tri and quad axle dumps.If not, what was a B-86? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 maybe a heavier B80 or a B80 with Hall- Scott engine Like Marv Comer once told me Mack did what ever fit and not much standardization Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Would that have been a B-86? There were five of those listed and often with a different motor the number would change. I wouldn't be surprised if the 413 truck motor had as much or more power than a 707. They were popular in big Dodge tri and quad axle dumps.If not, what was a B-86? The Wedge 413 single WCFB 4 barrel industrial truck engine was 320 h.p. and 450 torque at 2800 rpm and an optional power plant in the R-400 seriesMost B's with a Chrysler engine were Fire Trucks with a 354 Chrysler industrial Hemi. The 413 could have been swapped in place of the Hemi, less weight, more power and easier parts availability. 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I knew a guy with a single axle R dump with a 413. Swore up and down it got nearly 10mpg, he was trying to sell it at the time Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I knew a guy with a single axle R dump with a 413. Swore up and down it got nearly 10mpg, he was trying to sell it at the time They sip gas if you don't kick the secondaries in. 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41669-is-there-a-b-85/#findComment-303833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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