Randy mckinney Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 1990 8v 92 rear engine in fire truck while driving it will act like u turn key off. When u lift foot off throttle it will idle but as soon as you open throttle it will shut down. I have no active codes but stored codes are 16 31 32 35 41 42 44 46 51 62 63 65 any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 DDEC 1 or 2 ?? Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-303947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Shut down or stutter?Fuel filters may be clogged Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-303952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy mckinney Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Penn deisel told me it is ddec 2Fuel filters have been changed an tank drained an scoped an is spotless in side It just acts like you shut the key off no spit no sputter Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-303978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Let me see what the Detroit Diesel Fairy says about those codes. First thing he will say though is that the best thing you can do is to put that piece of shit out of it's misery- drain the oil out of it and firewall the governor. Then replace with a 300 Maxidyne. Is this in an E-Won't Hush? Have you checked all the simple stuff first? Bad load of fuel? Have you checked the fuel filters and fuel/water separator? Will get back to you. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 OK, the Detroit Fairy reports the following:16- coolant level31- engine brake32- cel/sel 1587 communication problem41- too many srs42- too few srs44- engine temp too high46- battery volts too low51- turbo temp (doubt it has one??)62- output fault ecm connections63- pwm pulse width modular (doubt it has one??)65- throttle valve (check for air filter restriction)16, 31, 32, 35, 41, 42, 44, 62 are all related to sensor harness. Maybe bad harness, maybe corrosion. All could be from connection issue at ecm. Detroit Diesel Fairy suggests running it without the air filter to see what happens. And as I predicted he also suggested draining all crankcase oil before you run it and quote "drive it like you stole it, and all of your problems will go away." Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hmmm... FWD has a Detroit guy on speed dial? 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Sounds like a ground issue 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 FWD is inspired on this one...that is some funny stuff ^^^ Keep us posted on the "leaker" for fun. Good luck.Greg Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Maybe FWD is coming out of the DD closet.......not there's anything wrong with that 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Detroit Diesel Fairy on speed dial hates them just as much (possibly more) than I do. And just because I hate them does not mean that I do not possess knowledge of them. Remember what Don Vito Corleone told Michael- "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy mckinney Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Fuel filters have ben changed as well as tank drained. It does have turbo. Voltage on guage in dash reads 12 volt untill you go above idle and this isue is there wether all the pretty lights are on or not. By the way it is an e- one an there wiring sucks to put it nicely i will check all the wire connections an see what i get. I have been told to replace throttle position sensor an that will fix it. We are a small fire co with little funds so i dont want to throw parts at it if not needed Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy mckinney Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Are tanker is next to be replaced an if i get my way it will be a granite 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Fuel filters have ben changed as well as tank drained. It does have turbo. Voltage on guage in dash reads 12 volt untill you go above idle and this isue is there wether all the pretty lights are on or not. By the way it is an e- one an there wiring sucks to put it nicely i will check all the wire connections an see what i get. I have been told to replace throttle position sensor an that will fix it. We are a small fire co with little funds so i dont want to throw parts at it if not neededTurbo temp- meaning pyrometer......The Fairy said he doubts it has one, meaning a Pyrometer. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy mckinney Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 He is correct it does not have pyrometer Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Detroit Diesel Fairy is all powerful and all-knowing. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Fuel filters have ben changed as well as tank drained. It does have turbo. Voltage on guage in dash reads 12 volt untill you go above idle and this isue is there wether all the pretty lights are on or not. By the way it is an e- one an there wiring sucks to put it nicely i will check all the wire connections an see what i get. I have been told to replace throttle position sensor an that will fix it. We are a small fire co with little funds so i dont want to throw parts at it if not neededMeasure the voltage at the TPS with the accelerator pedal to the floor. It should be no more than 4.5 volts no more. If it is over it causes the system to try and re calibrate and will cause the dead pedal feeling and the flutter. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I am not familiar with the DDEC 2 strokes. However on a 60 Series I would suspect the fuel pedal. Is your fuel pedal electronic?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 With those codes the ecm has been disconnected with ign own. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy mckinney Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yes it does have electronic fuel pedal.When you say ecm was disconnected with power on could a bad wire/connection give same result Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 yes. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-304593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol2Stroker Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Coolant level sensor was known to shut down the busses. Edited October 1, 2015 by wayne64ss Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/41813-calling-all-detriot-diesel-guys/#findComment-305764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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