Doug Maney Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 From what I understand, all Down Under Mack trucks are assembled using the tried and true R-model frame as the foundation. The photo of the Superliner showing the hood open does resemble the same frame that the Valueliner of Dan Thomas has. The hoods on the Superliners down there are different from the ones here in the north. The cabs sit higher so the top of the hood must be taller and I believe have a little slope to the top.I'd have to study some more to give the specifics. I hope this helps.Doug 2 Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yeah Doug the R model chassis was used on just about everything down here right up until 2000 and something Im not sure of the year but could find out it fitted in for RHD drive trucks much better than any other chassis Mack had Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Whiskymack Posted October 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2015 Mack Trucks Australia must have really got their money's worth from the R model frame. I think the Valueliner must have been the final development of the R model design down under.I read somewhwere that the Superliners produced in Mexico used the same idea. R model frame and cab with a superliner hood. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just had a look at some paper work Australia still used the R model chassis until 2008 CH and CL were CHR and CLR the Metroliner had the R model chassisCHRCLRMetrolinerplus no doubt a whole lot moreThinking about the bonnets in NZ I reckon they would have been made in NZ to save on import dutys or some thing along those lines Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Mack Trucks Australia must have really got their money's worth from the R model frame. I think the Valueliner must have been the final development of the R model design down under.I read somewhwere that the Superliners produced in Mexico used the same idea. R model frame and cab with a superliner hood.Wow! All this makes impression. Something like you have access to a very good library and the only thing you need is to make a quick run to Down Under for one more brochure Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just had a look at some paper work Australia still used the R model chassis until 2008 CH and CL were CHR and CLR the Metroliner had the R model chassisplus no doubt a whole lot moreThinking about the bonnets in NZ I reckon they would have been made in NZ to save on import dutys or some thing along those lines PaulPaul, that sounds good.Your chances to get a fresh R-model frame are pretty high if you ever need any. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Vlad I find Mack trucks Australia very good to deal with nothing seems to be to much trouble for them maybe its the local lads lasses that work at Townsville but they go the extra mile for me or at least thats what I feel compared to what I read on here with the US dealers and older gear Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 PaulYou have a REAL MACK man in Townsville!! It will be a shame when we have to start inport parts from Down Under to the States for an American made truck. This sign hangs on his dealership wall.. 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskymack Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Vlad,Sadly, I don't think I can manage a trip down under anytime soon.I was there for about a year 1991 to 92 when the trucks were great. Plenty of R models on the roads, even old steel dash R700s and lots of Superliners, Ultraliners, Valueliners and a few Cruiseliners. I think I only saw one CH.I imagine it must be a lot different now.Alastair 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskymack Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Came across this link today. It explains all:http://www.renaulttrucks.co.nz/about-usI also found this magazine. Looks interesting but might be a bit pricey with overseas postage!http://www.accuratestories.co.nz/magazines/classic-trucking-volume-ii/ 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Alastair,It sounds like you had the great time being down under.Thank you for posting the link with NZ Mack history.I found very unexpected reading "R600 bonneted model, originally with a FIBERGLASS cab"Vlad Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskymack Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Vlad,It's great how your eagle eyed spot over the Superliner headlamps has led to new discoveries.I'd always just assumed that Mack Trucks Australia supplied NZ as well and had no idea that the Kiwis built their own.I'd also never heard of fiberglass R model cabs before although I did see one or two fiberglass F models Down Under.The amazing thing about the classic period Macks is the great number of variations. I don't know if any other manufacturer offered so many variants within onemodel range.Alastair 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'd always just assumed that Mack Trucks Australia supplied NZ as well and had no idea that the Kiwis built their own.From what we found out I understand that Kiwis assembled their trucks until started recieve ready ones from Brisbane factory.There is a note about "franchize agreement with Mack Trucks inc.USA" of 1973.This might mean they assembled trucks from the parts supplied from the States.If so there were NZ models specially designed (in the US??) to use a R-model frame and right hand drive setup. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-307810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Vlad Mack trucks US definently supplied complete Macks R models to NZ dont know how many or the exact models but a lot of R models had features from US and Australian trucks so maybe they sourced parts from both to end up with Kiwi specials and of course I cant forget there would have been some Kiwi special parts as wellPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-308638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Paul, that sounds like a pretty interesting can of warms indeed Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42108-different-superliner-hood/page/2/#findComment-308640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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