BigRWfan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Yes it does Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Performance and comfort counts. Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody454 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 mine is set up right just like petermack's for off road...even my fat ass on a creeper can fit under the tanks 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Was on a job in clarendon hills today with a guy in a w900L with 210 wb and he was struggling to get up into a foundation. It was a road where the curb was cutout on both ends in a finished community. 20 blodgett clarendon hills if you want to see what it looks like in live street view. My mack made the turns but it was kinda tight. Makes me worried about a longer wheelbase. Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PeterMack Posted October 16, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2015 http://m.truckpaper.com/ListingDetail/Index?industryName=truck&listingId=5623987&categoryId=211Wowyour setup Looks awesome. What is your empty weight? 27500?So you have seen the Underhill black pete a lot and think it would be a good choice? He wants 40k. I think it's worth it because they are getting rare and finding one that well kept is tough.I also found this gem and wondering if taking a trip out to cali would be my best bet. What you think?My empty is right at 28,000. I have 46,000 rears and double frame from the fuel tanks back. That Underhill truck is probably a thousandpounds less than my truck. The truck from Cali looks nice, would just be a matter of getting there to look at it and then getting it back.It can be done though. I used to see that Underhill truck at Unilock all the time. I didn't do a full on inspection on the truck, but it wasdefinitely well kept. You won't find a cleaner 98 of any brand in Northern IL, especially one that is actually for sale. If that truck wasa CH or RD that was just as clean and set up the same I would also say buy it! Since the economy took a crap, more O/O's have leftthis business around here than got into it, and the ones that are left are keeping their trucks and rebuilding them and just buying newtrailers. Finding a nice clean Mack, KW, or Pete factory day cab that hasn't been completely destroyed or molested around here istough. You know just like I do about the garbage people that are in this business around here. They run these trucks into the ground,throw them in the trash, and then find another one to wreck. I say if you like that Pete, take it for a spin and see how you feel about it.Everybody can throw their 2 cents in, but ultimately you are the one making the payment and will have to sit in it 10 to 12 hrs a day.If you think its worth it and it makes you happy I say go for it! If you find a decent Mack that is worth it go for it. Its hard to find decentday cabs that are set up for gravel around here. I have 543,000 miles on my red Pete. 07 pre emissions C15 Acert CAT, starts andruns every day. Pays the bills and has been a good truck. Good luck! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 By the way, if you are thinking of buying a new trailer, this is my friends MAC he just bought a couple weeks ago fromKen's in Chebanse. $58,000 with no liner or tarp. Think he just got a auto Mountain Tarp for like $2,500. So they aredefinitely not giving new trailers away! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicello122 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The petes turning radius is superior to anything, my Pete is 260 wb, I had a ch sleeper before it with a set back axle and the Pete will get around better because of the cut, I like macks but my 379 is sweet and I never had a place I couldn't get it in, I haul pool water and end up on dead end roads that give the school buses problems. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Petermack I would live to have a new trailer like that but I heard you have to order them and have them made and wait 8 weeks or so to get them I was thinking of water and one in the winter time but is there a catalog I can look through to see whether I want East Meck or trailStar and what options I can get? I also don't know if a brand new trailers going to be any later than the slant nose Fruehauf I am pulling if I put aluminum wheels on it however the whole thing is to get an air ride trailer so maybe it's worth it Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Petermack I would live to have a new trailer like that but I heard you have to order them and have them made and wait 8 weeks or so to get them I was thinking of water and one in the winter time but is there a catalog I can look through to see whether I want East Meck or trailStar and what options I can get? I also don't know if a brand new trailers going to be any later than the slant nose Fruehauf I am pulling if I put aluminum wheels on it however the whole thing is to get an air ride trailer so maybe it's worth itUsually you do have to order a new trailer. Build time depends on how busy the company is. Could be a month, could be six months.There is no universal catalog for the trailers. Ken's in Chebanse is a good place to deal with. They used to sell East but they had a bitof a falling out with them so now they sell MAC and Titan. Leach Truck Parts in Crystal Lake sells Trailstar. I think there is an Eastdealer just up the street from House of Trucks, but I don't know anything about them. I know Stuart Tank is also an East dealer. You would have to talk to each dealer to see different specs on different trailers. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 $40k for a '98 Pete??????????lol....i like that one....bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-307944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mackdaddy2030 Posted November 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2015 By the way, if you are thinking of buying a new trailer, this is my friends MAC he just bought a couple weeks ago fromKen's in Chebanse. $58,000 with no liner or tarp. Think he just got a auto Mountain Tarp for like $2,500. So they aredefinitely not giving new trailers away!I was just thinking about BJ's trailer as soon as I started reading this thread. I think he waited over 10 weeks and I'll have to ask him again but I'm pretty sure he said he wouldn't deal with Kens again. I've always head the trailer is what makes the difference. I know BJ said its night and day difference between his spring ride steel and his air ride aluminum. And if you do order new, get the lift axle like BJ did. Makes sense since you are empty all the time. I heard Trailstars are junk. I'd only think about MAC or East. BJ's is a MAC. And I know of someone else that was talking about buying the Underhill truck. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicello122 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Trailstars are built well Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottwetzel Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I believe I know someone who has a really nice Superliner for sale with 199inch wheel base that would work nicely for you! Not to mention you wont have to worry about fixing it all the time like those Petercars!! Call me if ur interested ill cut you a sweet deal. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD501 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I went with the E-Pak steel trailer when i was looking. It is pretty light for steel, I put it on material hauling 80% of the time. Then it has a 2 way gate that is really easy to switch. I do a fair amount of demo, so the trucks can still haul demo debris and concrete from me. With the E-Pak and the Pinnacle, we can squeeze 22.5 tons on if you run 73,000. The selling point with E-Pak was the quick delivery time, dealt with the manufacturer, and had some say in the design. My one complaint is that the dump angle is not steep enough, but they are working with me to fix that. I think a taller ram will make it fine. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody454 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 a friend of mine got a E-Pak steel trailer. looks nice. haven't really had a chance to look it over, but he's pretty particular about his stuff Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddy2030 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I went with the E-Pak steel trailer when i was looking. It is pretty light for steel, I put it on material hauling 80% of the time. Then it has a 2 way gate that is really easy to switch. I do a fair amount of demo, so the trucks can still haul demo debris and concrete from me. With the E-Pak and the Pinnacle, we can squeeze 22.5 tons on if you run 73,000. The selling point with E-Pak was the quick delivery time, dealt with the manufacturer, and had some say in the design. My one complaint is that the dump angle is not steep enough, but they are working with me to fix that. I think a taller ram will make it fine.Just watch the debris and concrete that they put in there. It's light, which means not as thick. I saw a guy this year with a brand new Coras and he already had to put patches in it cause it was too thin. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD501 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I know, I dont send them out to haul concrete for other contractors. Just broken ashpalt and dirt with debris in it. I am pretty rough on my own stuff, and have put some big concrete in there. So far so good. I really like the top rub rail being on an angle, i can use it to cut wire and debris with the bucket without any problems. The trailers are hardox 450, and it seems pretty tough.EPak is new to the chicago market, and they seem to have a good product. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dds92780 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2015 Well, I just brought the truck home tonight! Tricky at first with having an electronic throttle but ill get used to it. So far I like it Tons of torque down low. The mack isn't bad compared to it. Mack fits me like a glove but the pete is a whole other truck. Ill post pics if anyone wants to see 4 Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottwetzel Posted November 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2015 Smh. Poor Mack got the back burner to a short Peter! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody454 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 its pretty similar to your dads pete, isn't it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Congrats!! You won't regret it. That is a nice truck. There is no substitute for major power. - Tom Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Sas yes its similar. His is a 96. 3406c. Mechanical ( I LOVE mechanical throttles)390 gearing, 18 speed, 198 wb, 370 hp. Great truck but he wasn't ready. His will be mine someday. I already am thinking of ordering an Eldorado vip seat from Canada again to complete the ride but ill wait. Truck is longer than im used to but already looks awesome in my garage lol. 65-70 mph was right around 1500 rpm. I don't like 10 speeds but its rebuilt 2 years ago and with how torque I make, I jerking I can still keep the tach down low on each shift and make power.it was pretty comfortable on the way home but passenger was making alot of noise. Im going to look into that. Ill post pics here later. Funny thing is, The mack is still an awesome truck for what it is. Can't compare to pete for ride quality and gearing and looks tho. I almost bought a used ch 427 this year with a 13 speed. Was a great work truck but I guess I wanted a working with class truck lol Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Get the pitch forks the Monster is Loose! 1 Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dirtymilkman Posted November 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2015 It's like buying a Harley. You know the Honda will out perform, outlast and cost you less, but some people will do anything they can to try to be part of a group. We have a local end dump operator here that started out with 2 long hood petes. His company kept growing and soon he had 10 big hoods. Well now with 40 trucks and now he watches every expense he switched to freightliners and now transitioning to macks. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddy2030 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Another one went to the dark side lolI'm not against Petes, I just don't like half the guys that drive them that think if you don't have a Pete 359,379,389 you are not cool. I like some of them, but it's like a '67-'69 Camaro. Every car show is full of Camaros just like Petes at truck shows. One of the last truck magazines I got showed all the different class winners for the show and every category was a Pete. Really shocked there wasn't a KW at least. It's all persanal preference in what you want and like. I've sat in many and it just doesn't fit me right. And I hate how the clutch peddle is also. Though I've never driven a C15 and I always hear once you drive one you will never want to drive anything else. I think it's cooler that you had an RD working everyday and looking that great. I will never say I'd never own own. I sat in that new vocational truck Pete has the 567 axle forward and that was a really nice truck with the new redesigned cab. But I guess I still wouldn't be cool cause it's not a 357,379,389 lol 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42144-might-be-buying-a-pete-with-a-215-wheelbase-need-advice/page/3/#findComment-312954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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