Outbehindthebarn Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I am taking a crossmember out of my Super to clean rust/paint behind it. Four bolts are "plow bolts" with no heads on them. I removed all the others, and 'hinged' the crossmember on those plow bolts, so its loose in the frame... but if I want to remove the member from the frame mounts, am I supposed to just knock those plow bolts out? Can they be reused? I know on an actual moldboard 9 out 10 times they won't hold tight again.Does the above make sense?Thanks.Ron Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 We never reuse hardware even if a 1/4 20 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Like so many other things, I'm more worried about them being "no longer available". They are odd looking things, and since there's only four, I don't mind buying them.... if I can get'em. Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Sure they aren't Huck Bolts? They are available used them on one of my AC chassis.Click pics 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 No, these are like a counter-sunk plow bolt, minus the square shoulder. We use them on our chisel plow and our moldboard.... but these are much larger. Really no option either because there isn't room between the frame rail and the bracket... I can't remove the brackets without driving out these bolts, when its daylight I'll snap a photo. I haven't worked on many trucks, so I don't know if these are common or not... Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Caterpillar has them. I asked my grandson who works for H.O. Penn Cat dealer. Also here from Grangers Grade 5 to 8.http://www.grainger.com/category/plow-bolts/bolts/fasteners/ecatalog/N-8k2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 On my dads and mine they just have standard high tensile bolts and nuts. That may just be an Aussie thing, but it hasn't fallen apart yet! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 On my dads and mine they just have standard high tensile bolts and nuts. That may just be an Aussie thing, but it hasn't fallen apart yet!Makes me wonder if these were a Hayward California thing.... Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Makes me wonder if these were a Hayward California thing....Since the rail will be counter sunk for the plow bolt heads just might as well get them from Cat, Grangers or Fasten All. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Pictures of plow bolts... They are 'supposed' to come out right? Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Uh oh.......... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Pictures of plow bolts... They are 'supposed' to come out right?By the looks of the design, anything with a nut on it should be able to be undone. As a matter of fact, them style cross members would be very hard to get out without removing them. Just so long as you can replace them with something. My truck has the back-to-back style cross member. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Have you got a picture of the bolt that came outta it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 That cross member is to be slid out the back Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 That cross member is to be slid out the backAre you pretty sure about that? You mean the cross member bracket isn't meant to be removed from the crossmember itself?I tried pounding one of those plow bolts out (without damaging it)... wouldn't budge... That's why I'm asking. Every crossmember is like the one photoed. One plow bolt on all four corners.The rest of the bolts are normal flanged bolts. Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The whole works slides out the back. At least thats how my cl is Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 The whole works slides out the back. At least thats how my cl isYour CL cross members look like mine? Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Grandson brough these home from Caterpillar they are #7 Bucket Tooth Plow Bolts. The tooth "collapses and locks it in the hole as he said tighter than sh#t. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Worst case scenario, put a standard high tensile hex head bolt and nyloc nut back in its place. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 CL's and superliner's had the same frame Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b61mack Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Can you put a tack weld on the smooth side and heat the nut and unbolt it then grind the tack off. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 My R's have no them plow bolts in that spot nor any bolts at all since that end bracked welded to the crossmember central beam.I wish I have them like yours and able to clean all the rust from in between.I would cut the nut off and swap with new ones if possible.Or if you gonna save them grind off the side of the nut to break its tubness and get it loose enough to drive off. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Can you put a tack weld on the smooth side and heat the nut and unbolt it then grind the tack off.Or weld a nut on the bolt's top and cut it off when it's done. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42634-removing-crossmember-from-rws/#findComment-311357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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