Paris under attack

[david wild]

Once again the scum have struck, and somehow the left will claim that if they had even more stricter gun controls this would not happen, how about if more people had guns at their disposal the scum would have been dead before causing anymore harm. Gun control does not stop a bomb, I find it funny that the police who have all the guns lock themselves in a bunker at night and speak to you through a bullet proof glass wall, what are they afraid of ?? yet they want us to sit in our homes unprotected while they hole up in their bunker, what do they fear ?? The O crap for brains want you to believe that if we are nice to the scum they will like us, they don't and never will, the only thing they understand is strength and power and if that means that we need the ability to wipe them off the earth then that is what we need .

If being nice and pleasant is the way to win the scums hearts then why does the DOT and all the rest of the Gestapo need to write such large fines for basically small things, don't you think if we can be nice to Iran we could talk nice to the local trucker and get him to get into compliance. Oh that's right, it is does not work, the trucker would ride off and laugh at the dumb cop and do as he pleases, just like the scum. We should treat the scum like we treat our own people, you never stop your puppy from peeing on the floor by telling him NO, a slap on the but get's the job done.

Wake up poop for brains president and act like a man with a spine and not a VJJ

I feel bad for the dead and injured but they and their Government allowed this to happen and soon it will be at a Mall near you America.

Liberals make me want to puke

[Marcel67]

Before we know it will happen here! But don't worry our commander of the golf course tells every one the Isis is under control. Wake up (expletive) and act like a commander in chief!!!!

[carlotpilot]

thats the problem he is acting

[41chevy]

Don't forget that o bammy is allowing 20,000 to 35000 Syrian refuges here on an "emergency edict". Guess he needs them to get a few shots in before the elections are cancelled.

[kscarbel2]

I can assure you that at any one time, the common people are only privy to around 15 to 20 percent of what's going on in the world, who'd doing it, and why. The rest is hidden from view. Think about that.

[kscarbel2]

Here's a photo of Raqqa, Syria, otherwise known as ISIS Central.

Note that the ISIS headquarters and Islamic court buildings were still standing undisturbed, until France bombed it Sunday night. Odd, isn't it.

Now, for how long has the U.S. been supporting a fight against ISIS, including aerial strikes?

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[Outbehindthebarn]

Watching the Sunday Morning shows today.... just unbelievable. Obama seems so incredibly detached.

They say the French bombed an ISIS command center in Raqqa today.... why the f@ck wasn't that command center not blown up months ago????

Somebody is gonna have to grow a pair and start dismantling these extremist without concern collateral damage.

Here's what they should do to Raqqa:

Dresden 1945.

[Outbehindthebarn]

Here's a photo of Raqqa, Syria, otherwise known as ISIS Central.

Note that the ISIS headquarters and Islamic court buildings are standing undisturbed. Odd, isn't it.

Now, how long has the U.S. been supporting a fight against ISIS, including aerial strikes?

.

You and I were typing about the same thing at the same time....

[kscarbel2]

1/3 of Americans don't know what's happening in the world (they intentionally avoid the news.....tidbits of truth, but still something to go on).

1/3 of Americans have heard of ISIS and saw news of the Paris attacks, but consider it a "far away" and "over there" event, not one they need to be concerned about.......it's not going to get in the way of their busy personal life.

1/3 of Americans are concerned. The gun advocates are more convinced of their conviction......but given the way terrorist prey, indiscriminately attacking civilian targets, they'll never see it coming.

Fighting these people requires a complete mental reboot, and the temporary discarding of the ethics, morals and values that define us, as only when we fight them at their ruthless level can we defeat them.

There's little doubt that ISIS took down that Russian airliner last week, flying at 31,000 feet, murdering 224 civilians. And we know how porous our borders are.........or at least the 12 million-plus illegal aliens in the U.S. do.

These people have declared war on western civilization. I fear, while Washington is trying to be politically correct and walk a safe line, things are going to get worse before it gets better. The authorities are no doubt working around-the-clock to keep America safe. But without a reboot of our mindset, I fear our current posture is inadequate.

Paris:

Islamic militant Abu Maryam: “You have been ordered to fight the infidel wherever you find him - what are you waiting for? There are weapons and cars available and targets ready to be hit.”

Islamic militant Abu Salman: “poison the water and food of......the enemies of Allah."

[hatcity]

Yes, we will have to stoop to their level.

BUT, those that choose to stay at their(ISIS) home, will/should be considered an enemy.

Unfortunately, this is not like WWII, where the enemy wore a uniform, and was easily identifiable

[kscarbel2]

Yes, we will have to stoop to their level.

BUT, those that choose to stay at their(ISIS) home, will/should be considered an enemy.

Unfortunately, this is not like WWII, where the enemy wore a uniform, and was easily identifiable

You're exactly right. Americans are accustomed to things being black and white. In Vietnam for example, unable to distinguish friend from foe, we saw the beginning of a much more challenging fighting environment.

[kscarbel2]

Polish minister says Syrians can return to fight and 'liberate' homeland

AFP / November 15, 2015

The hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees pouring into Europe can be trained to form an army and return to "liberate" their homeland, Poland's new foreign minister said on Sunday.

Witold Waszczykowski also told public television that the refugees could be gainfully employed in this manner rather than sipping coffee on an iconic Berlin avenue or other European cities.

"Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have come to Europe recently. We can help them form an army," he said.

"Tens of thousands of young men disembark from their rubber dinghies with iPad in hand and instead of asking for drink or food, they ask where they can charge their cellphones.

"They can go to fight to liberate their country with our help," said the minister, who takes office on Monday.

Waszczykowski said he was trying to avoid a situation where "we send our soldiers to fight in Syria while hundreds of thousands of Syrians drink their coffee in (Berlin's) Unter den Linden" boulevard or in other European cities.

Germany has to date maintained an open-door policy for Syrians escaping their country's bloodshed, giving them "primary protection" -- the highest status for refugees.

Poland's incoming European Affairs Minister Konrad Szymanski said Saturday that Warsaw no longer considered an EU plan to redistribute refugees across Europe as a "political possibility" in light of the Paris attacks that left at least 129 people dead.

The program -- long criticised by the EU's eastern-most members -- has come under fresh criticism after officials said a Syrian passport found at the scene of one of the attacks belonged to an asylum seeker who registered on a Greek island in October.

[carlotpilot]

france put twenty some bombs into raqqa today I wonder if that picture still looks the same?

[hatcity]

20 is a nice start.

[kscarbel2]

france put twenty some bombs into raqqa today I wonder if that picture still looks the same?

A whole 20 bombs. Carpet bombing of the area is more like what I had in mind.

[carlotpilot]

A whole 20 bombs. Carpet bombing of the area is more like what I had in mind.

promised more tomorrow

[RedBullDog]

A whole 20 bombs. Carpet bombing of the area is more like what I had in mind.

I guess that it depends on the size/type of those 20 bombs. Twenty MOAB's might well make a good impression.

[carlotpilot]

4 moabs would do it

[kscarbel2]

Obama calls for a “rejection by non-Muslims of the ignorance that equates Islam with terror.”

UN Summit on ISIS - September 29, 2015

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(Not my list, but applicable to the topic)

The Paris attacks were Muslims
The Charlie Hebdo Attackers were Muslim
The Chattanooga Reserve Center Shooter was a Muslim
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

All Muslims are not not terrorist........but all terrorist are Muslims. You make the call.

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The ISIS threat to America should not be taken lightly.

But having said that, to date, 99 percent of the murders in America were caused by.......non-Muslim Americans (Christians). For example: http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/40732-the-face-of-america-in-year-2015/

Stupidity has become the new normal.....is there still hope for our country? - http://news.yahoo.com/three-missouri-teens-charged-making-terrorist-threats-022916150.html

And then consider the vast number of students murdered in school by other students since the first instance at Columbine, plus the spike in domestic violence (e.g. Baltimore, Ferguson). http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-homicides-top-300-worst-since-1999-011900066.html

And Detroit, well, the stratospheric level of crime there makes the Middle East almost appear peaceful.

Only a morally healthy and united America can successfully take on a serious global threat.

[RedBullDog]

If you say it fast it sounds like a great new charity, Moabs for Arabs. Like meals on wheels or toys for tots.

[kscarbel2]

Another person's interesting comparison.

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Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

WHEREAS........
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

A religion of peace ?

[kscarbel2]

Reuters / November 15, 2015

Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari has said his country's intelligence services shared information they had which indicated that France, the United States and Iran were among countries being targeted for attack.

"Information has been obtained from Iraqi intelligence sources that the countries to be targeted soon, before it occurred, are Europe in general, specifically France, as well as America and Iran," Jaafari said from the sidelines of talks in Vienna on ending the war in Syria on Saturday.

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Surprising to some, this unfolding event is going to result in the U.S. fighting alongside Russia and Iran, which will allow the three countries to settle differences better in the future having gained a newfound understanding of each other.

[kscarbel2]

Paris attacks: How a ‘really great guy’ became a suicide bomber

The Financial Times / November 15, 2015

Omar Ismael Mostefai was identified by a finger blown off in the blast of the explosive belt he detonated in the Bataclan concert hall — as he tried to kill as many people around him as possible.

But three years ago, in a quiet neighbourhood of Chartres, about an hour’s drive south-west of Paris, he had seemed like any normal local resident.

“Omar was a really great guy: friendly; open,” said a neighbour who knew him and his family between 2005 and 2012, when they moved out. “He talked to the kids; played football with the neighbours.”

Another neighbour, Alexandre, 21, concurred: “Normal — really nothing special.”

The 29-year-old was one of the Islamist terrorists who staged the deadly attacks on Paris on Friday evening. They killed 129 people and wounded more than 350 in a series of co-ordinated and meticulously planned assaults.

Mostefai was also one of at least three French-born attackers in the group. This suggests that the threat from homegrown jihadis has become more severe since January, when three Islamist extremists murdered 17 people in a series of shootings against Charlie Hebdo magazine, the police and a Jewish supermarket in Paris.

“It’s unfortunately not that surprising,” said Sebastien Pietrasanta, a French lawmaker who has written a report on homegrown terrorism. “We’ve moved up to another level with suicide bombings. But the risk of seeing more of this kind of attack is real.”

The threat is particularly acute for France. With about 571 French nationals fighting for Isis or other terrorist organisations, the country has the largest contingent of foreign jihadis in Syria. Up to 141 have died there and about 246 have returned to France, according to French authorities.

This may be the tip of the iceberg. About 2,000 French citizens are thought to be involved in jihadi cells in France, and another 3,800 individuals are said to be showing signs of Islamist radicalization.

Besides Mostefei, two other Frenchmen — two brothers — were being linked by authorities to Friday’s carnage. One blew himself up in a restaurant on Boulevard Voltaire, while police believe that the other may have escaped. On Sunday, officers were hunting for Abdeslam Salah, born in Brussels in 1989.

The first details to emerge of Mostefai show similarities with the group that targeted Paris in January.

Like Saïd and Cherif Kouachi, the brothers who attacked Charlie Hebdo, he was of Algerian origin. Like Amedy Coulibaly, who killed a police officer and four Jewish hostages, he was from Essone, a region on the southeastern outskirts of Paris.

Mostefei was known to police, having been convicted eight times for minor crimes, including driving without a license. But he never spent time in prison, unlike Coulibaly, who became radicalized while in custody.

Mostefei’s birthplace was Courcouronnes, a grim housing estate similar to Grigny, where Coulibaly lived. But Mostefai spent at least eight years in the peaceful and residential Madeleine district, in eastern Chartres, a small town renowned for its medieval cathedral.

There, in a cul de sac, he lived in a two-storey house, with a black door and cream façade, with his parents, two sisters and two brothers. The family had their own indoor garage and a decent-sized back garden overlooking a sports complex. On Sunday, children were riding bicycles and playing football in the street.

Two years before leaving the neighborhood, French intelligence services flagged Mostefei for Islamist radicalization. But neighbors did not spot anything.

“He wore normal clothes, with training shoes — there was no hint of radicalization,” one of them said. His father was retired, and seemed to live off odd jobs, he added. “The mother wore a veil, but nothing out of the ordinary. She wasn’t fanatically religious at all.”

The neighbor also said that both Mostefei’s parents shook the hand of people of the opposite sex, suggesting that they were far from radical in their religious beliefs.

[kscarbel2]

At the Democratic presidential primary debate on Saturday in Des Moines, Hillary said of ISIS:

"It cannot be an American fight." Rather, "We will support those who take the fight to ISIS."

Now 24 hours later, she's done a total flip-flop saying:

"This is a worldwide fight......I know America has to lead it, but we cannot and should not do it alone."

If you're going to be president of the United States, you can't flip-flop on your position or you lose all credibility with both the American people and foreign leaders (that need to both respect and fear you).

Why does America always have to lead.........and pay the bill. Frankly speaking, we can no longer afford to be the world's policeman (based on what we're told). The result is a 500-ship Navy shrunk to 273 ships, and inferior one-size-fits-all fighter-bombers with no range that put our carriers within range of hostile land-based missiles, our government having abandoned the purchase of vastly superior purpose-designed USN fighters and bombers that once upon a time gave us undisputed air superiority.

Here's a thought, why not have our wealthy friend-of-convenience Saudi Arabia lead the effort? They're one of the king pins in ISIS's neighborhood.

I support helping those who help themselves. But the Arab League is NOT trying to help itself and eliminate ISIS.

Why spill American blood for countries that won't help themselves. Tens of thousands of able-bodied Syrian men ran to Europe, unwilling to fight for the homeland.

And again, speaking of the Arab League countries, why aren't their armed forces fighting ISIS?

[kscarbel2]

In the worst of Friday's attacks, gunmen stormed the Bataclan theater during a rock concert, taking the audience hostage and firing on them repeatedly. 89 people were killed and many more wounded.

Julien Pearce, a journalist at Europe 1 radio who escaped by crawling onto the stage, said he got a good look at one attacker who appeared "very young."

"That's what struck me, his childish face, very determined, cold, calm, frightening," Pearce said.