Mayflower & Pilgrams my Arse

[41chevy]

Reuters: 11.26.2015

US President Barack Obama Thursday delivered a Thanksgiving message in which he compared modern refugees to the pilgrims whom the holiday celebrates, urging Americans to open their arms to the potential immigrants.

"Nearly four centuries after the Mayflower set sail, the world is still full of pilgrims -- men and women who want nothing more than the chance for a safer, better future for themselves and their families," Obama said in his weekly address, referring to the boat on which the pilgrims arrived in the New World.

Thanksgiving was first celebrated by the group after fleeing religious persecution in England. For many Americans, it has become a family-oriented day marked with an enormous meal of roast turkey, an assortment of side dishes and a slice or two of pie.

"I've been touched by the generosity of the Americans who've written me letters and emails in recent weeks, offering to open their homes to refugees fleeing the brutality of ISIL," Obama said, referring to the Islamic State group.

The shootings and suicide bombings have stirred fears in North America and Europe that jihadists could seek to blend in with refugees in order to strike later.Immigration has taken center stage as an important issue ahead of the 2016 presidential race but reached fever pitch following the deadly Paris attacks earlier this month.

Obama himself faces a barrage of opposition to his own plan to resettle 27,000 refugees in the coming year.

"People should remember that no refugee can enter our borders until they undergo the highest security checks of anyone traveling to the United States," Obama said.

"That was the case before Paris, and it's the case now."

Obama also reminded listeners that Thanksgiving was not just an opportunity for people to give thanks for their personal blessings.

"On this uniquely American holiday, we also remember that so much of our greatness comes from our generosity," he said.

Bull Crap!!!

[farmer52]

BULL $HIT!!!

[RowdyRebel]

I stopped caring what that SOB had to say a long time ago. Ok, so maybe I never cared what he had to say. At this point, he'd be a lame duck IF we had a congress willing to stand up to him or a judiciary willing to form opinions based upon Constitutional principals rather than political ideology. The combined failure of 2/3 of our government to keep the 3rd allegedly co-equal branch in check is far more dangerous than the ridiculous statements made by any 1 man...even if he does occupy the oval office.

[Apple dog]

Rumors, lies and propaganda.

[kscarbel2]

The story behind Thanksgiving – what really happened

Most people associate the holiday with happy Pilgrims and Indians sitting down to a big feast. And that did happen - once.

In 1614, a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox in the New World which virtually wiped out those who had escaped.

As a result of the smallpox, the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay to find only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and learned English. He taught the Pilgrims to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags.

But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain.

Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Indians for slaves and murdered the rest.

The Pequot Indian Nation however had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought.

In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours, the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. It was a massacre.

The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared "A Day Of Thanksgiving" because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.

Cheered by their "victory", the brave colonists and their Indian allies attacked additional Pequot village. Women and children over 14 were sold into slavery while the rest were murdered.

Boats loaded with a many as 500 slaves regularly left the ports of New England. Bounties were paid for Indian scalps to encourage as many deaths as possible.

Following an especially successful raid against the Pequot in what is now Stamford, Connecticut, the churches announced a second day of "thanksgiving" to celebrate victory over the heathen savages.

During the feasting, the hacked off heads of Natives were kicked through the streets like soccer balls. Even the friendly Wampanoag did not escape the madness. Their chief was decapitated, and his head hung on a pole in Plymouth, Massachusetts for 24 years.

The killings became more and more frenzied, with days of thanksgiving feasts being held after each successful massacre.

George Washington finally suggested that only one day of Thanksgiving per year be set aside instead of celebrating each and every massacre.

Later Abraham Lincoln decreed Thanksgiving Day to be a legal national holiday during the Civil War -- on the same day he ordered troops to march against the starving Sioux Indians in Minnesota.

The Wampanoag Indians were not the friendly Indians as is traditionally told. Nor were they invited out of the goodness of the Pilgrims' hearts to share the fruits of the Pilgrims' harvest in a demonstration of Christian charity and inter-racial brotherhood.

The Wampanoag were members of a widespread confederacy of Algonkian-speaking peoples known as the League of the Delaware.

For six hundred years, the Wampanoag Indians had been defending themselves from my other ancestors, the Iroquois, and for the last hundred years they had also had encounters with European fishermen and explorers but especially with European slavers, who had been raiding their coastal villages. They knew something of the power of the white people, and they did not fully trust them. But their religion taught that they were to give charity to the helpless and hospitality to anyone who came to them with empty hands.

Also, Squanto, the Indian hero of the Thanksgiving story, had a very real love for a British explorer named John Weymouth, who had become a second father to him several years before the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth. Clearly, Squanto saw these Pilgrims as Weymouth's people.

To the Pilgrims, the Indians were heathens and, therefore, the natural instruments of the Devil. Squanto, as the only educated and baptized Christian among the Wampanoag, was seen as merely an instrument of God, set in the wilderness to provide for the survival of His chosen people, the Pilgrims. The Indians were comparatively powerful and, therefore, dangerous; and they were to be courted until the next ships arrived with more Pilgrim colonists and the balance of power shifted.

The Wampanoag were actually invited to that Thanksgiving feast for the purpose of negotiating a treaty that would secure the lands of the Plymouth Plantation for the Pilgrims. It should also be noted that the Indians, possibly out of a sense of charity toward their hosts, ended up bringing the majority of the food for the feast.

A generation later, after the balance of power had indeed shifted, the Indian and White children of that Thanksgiving were striving to kill each other in the genocidal conflict known as King Philip's War.

At the end of that conflict most of the New England Indians were either exterminated or refugees among the French in Canada, or they were sold into slavery in the Carolinas by the Puritans.

This early trade in Indian slaves was so successful that several Puritan ship owners in Boston began the practice of raiding the Ivory Coast of Africa for black slaves to sell to the proprietary colonies of the South, thus founding the American-based slave trade.

[41chevy]

I stopped caring what that SOB had to say a long time ago. Ok, so maybe I never cared what he had to say. At this point, he'd be a lame duck IF we had a congress willing to stand up to him or a judiciary willing to form opinions based upon Constitutional principals rather than political ideology. The combined failure of 2/3 of our government to keep the 3rd allegedly co-equal branch in check is far more dangerous than the ridiculous statements made by any 1 man...even if he does occupy the oval office.

Because no one in office has the ballz to oppose him, the media raves how wonderful his ideas are, he signs his wishes and whims on us with his magic pen.

[Mcrafty1]

Ahole

[Dirtymilkman]

Very interesting

[Green Dash]

Part of what makes him a threat to the nation's well being is that he actually believes his own bullshit.

[mowerman]

(IDIOT) no doupt needs to go now lol.bob

[gearhead204]

Why dont we just look back to the fate of American Indian to see what happens a country adopts too many people with a different belief, I'm pretty sure they never figured that they would be on reservations after seeing the first 3 boats come ashore. However our CHIEF would love to see us disarmed and behind a fence, so then he could concentrate on climate change!

[mowerman]

system sucker,,,,gotta admit he hussled his way rite to the top,,,without busting a sweat....bob

[Vladislav]

Ufff...

I was just going to Google the history of Thanksgiving feast to be known of what you guys selebrate.

That big post above shares alot of facts about.

Let's hope all that is now history wich we will try to learn lessons from.

Kscarbel, thank you for sharing the story.