GOOG Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hendrickson makes a kit to convert to air ride. Has anybody here done it? I have no idea what the cost is, but it looks interesting. I tried unsuccessfully to provide a link, sorry. - Tom Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 What model hendrixson suspension Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 pad to air on 38.000 rears should be around 4750.00 but I have been waiting since august for my final price from Hendrickson and transport equipment. raydan has one too but much more pricy around 8800.00 good luck with the Hendrickson boys, I'm pissed! I couldn't run a business the way they have treated me that's for damn sure! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Why cant we copy and paste? Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Why cant we copy and paste?Are you using WIN 8.1 and IE 11? Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 I tried to copy and paste the link here with no success. I'm looking at the PRIMAXX EX. I have 44's now on Camelback. I'm hoping to use my rears again. I can't see $4,700 in what they are providing. - Tom Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/Primaax-EXTry this.If you are working in the dirt and off road, keep the camelback suspension. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I tried to copy and paste the link here with no success. I'm looking at the PRIMAXX EX. I have 44's now on Camelback. I'm hoping to use my rears again. I can't see $4,700 in what they are providing. - TomYour looking at a completely different suspension from the one you got. New holes have to be laid out and drilled in the frame. A full conversion for that price, if that includes the parts, isn't bad at all. If that's parts cost ($4700) that also sounds about right with all the new components needed for the new suspension. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Windows 8 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 When I say it seems expensive, I am talking about parts. I intend to install it myself. If I'm recycling my rears, that is a lot of money, in my opinion. I go off pavement very little. I'm pulling a 50 ton lowboy. The reason I'm looking at the idea of converting is, my rear suspension needs attention anyway, now is a good time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If your Mack doesn't have an air ride cab, I'd try that first. If you still need air ride rear suspension, you might be able to get a good deal on one from a truck that is being scrapped. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 When I say it seems expensive, I am talking about parts. I intend to install it myself. If I'm recycling my rears, that is a lot of money, in my opinion. I go off pavement very little. I'm pulling a 50 ton lowboy. The reason I'm looking at the idea of converting is, my rear suspension needs attention anyway, now is a good time.There are quite a bit of parts associated with that system from what I've seen. To myself, it doesn't seem surprising; suspension parts are expensive. If the cost of new is a factor, you could always look for a cutoff, but keep in mind the possibility of replacement of worn parts as well. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I do believe if you are using the camel back rear ends and going to a airride you will have to remove and turn all the brake spiders to move the brake cans. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 I have an air ride cab. I'm not terribly unhappy with the ride quality. (thanks to the 205" wheelbase) The reason I would consider the switch to air ride is, for the benefit of the truck when I'm dead heading. The hard ride isn't only tough on the driver, the truck takes a beating too. I have no knowledge, but I see no reason the Mack rears couldn't be used again. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I believe gearhead was referring to Hendrickson ar2. Which is an air ride version of the walking beam set up. If you want to convert to primax, I'd be looking for 2nd hand. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 My truck has the Hendrickson four spring e4 suspension. I looked but have not come up with an air ride suspension that will bolt on. This is important because the portion of the frame that is not used by this suspension is covered by a 3/4" steel plates. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The Mack rears could theoreticly be reused, but IIRC the mounting points for the air suspension are all different and it'd be quite a welding job. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 What's IIRC? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 What's IIRC?If I Recall Correctly Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 You talk about welding. I thought it was a bolt in. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 buy an eldorado vip seat from canada. It will be about 1200 shipped to you. It is a dramatic difference in ride quality. I have 44k rears and a 188 wb and i have a 22 foot dump trailer with spring suspension and that seat makes a HUGE difference. It allows your knees to stay in one spot but your your pelvis moves up and down when you hit bumps. Get the arm rests with it and tighten them up and you literally rest your elbows on the armrests and wrists on the steering wheel all day, no problem. IF a huge bump comes up all you have to do is push down with your elbows on the arm rests. I love the seat so much i am debating putting one in my air ride pete. Good luck Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/42853-air-ride-conversion/#findComment-313799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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