220cummins Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Seen these pictures on Facebook tonight. Looks like the rear elephant pad buckets broke and came off or bolts broke and came apart causing the rear axle to let loose. The driver walked away. There was a dash cam video but I didn't save the link. He was just driving a long and boom rollover. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maddog13407 Posted December 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2015 some mechanic might have some 'splainin' to do...... 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 completely spoiled day lucky driver did`nt appear to be hurt at all no other injuries? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/patrick.novak.50/videos/10206594753841863/?theater 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcrafty1 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Somethings weird about this....I never seen these buckets do this even on old completely worn out suspensions, convenient to have a dash cam going to capture the incident though. Glad the driver walked away and (at least it appears) there was no other injuries involved. I hope when it's determined exactly what did cause this it's shared on the BMT blog too. On a side note it looks like the truck has a aftermarket trunnion stand/ bar installed which appears completely intact, I wonder if the installer/s reused the bucket bolts and /or rubbers/wedges and if so did that have anything to do with this? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Challenger Posted December 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2015 This is why you need a good mechanic or atleast a quality control check before releasing a truck. Looks like some one didnt tighten the bolts. Maybe he got side tracked or had a worn out air gun. Inexcusable mistake. Im not big on pointing the finger at the mech, someone messed up. Always triple check your work. Check while you work, again when you're done, and again after road test. There is always time for a road test and a recheck of work. Its not a comeback until the customer takes control of his truck. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 I've never seen it but I've heard of the buckets breaking on some older camelbacks. My dad had a F-model with 38k rears with aluminum bottoms. Pittsburgh Mack replaced them under recall. That was prob 40 years ago though. I agree with challenger; someone royally screwed up if that just had suspension work. I don't know if it did or didn't. It would make the most sense. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I have a dumb? What is a Elephant Pad Bucket? Something new for camelbacks? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack458 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Local news report.http://6abc.com/news/dash-cam-video-shows-truck-flipping-over-on-i-95/1118007/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifth wheel Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I have a dumb? What is a Elephant Pad Bucket? Something new for camelbacks?They are right next to the frog legs.FW Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 They are right next to the frog legs.FWCamels, frogs, elephants...... Skip the zoo, look at a M-A-C-K Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I have a dumb? What is a Elephant Pad Bucket? Something new for camelbacks?Here's a picture from the web. #9 is the bucket in question. The isolators(elephant pads) are #10 & #12. They have been part of the design from the start. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 DIDNT use grade8 bolts for all 8 to break Ive seen them break and also 1 1/4 u bolts snap we did some heavy hauling like 60/ 70 tons on a DM800 or a DM600 no lift axle didn't need training wheels or dolly's couldn't do that any more!!!!! Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Thanks 220 cummins never heard them called that before. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Here's a picture from the web. #9 is the bucket in question. The isolators(elephant pads) are #10 & #12. They have been part of the design from the start.While we're on the subject, when you hear of 'on Bronze'... whats up with that? And what if they're not 'on bronze'? Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/patrick.novak.50/videos/10206594753841863/?theaterGlad to hear his injuries are limited to some soreness and he caught it all on video. Maybe it's because he was stunned but he seemed pretty cool the whole time. Had it been me the audio would have been R rated. 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDog Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 While we're on the subject, when you hear of 'on Bronze'... whats up with that? And what if they're not 'on bronze'?On bronze refers to the bushings in the centers where it attaches to the trunnion. Usually 44k and up camelbacks have Bronze or other metal bushings at the trunnion. 38k and possibly some 44's use rubber 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Never saw a broken bucket until one day in central Texas on a well travelled heavy haul route on a bad corner I found one in the middle of the road, appears while turning the bolts broke and split the bucket, I kept it and still have it today, thought of painting gold and putting on display. probably never see another. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Who would have thunk.. Something seems amiss in that story indeed. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Camels, frogs, elephants...... Skip the zoo, look at a M-A-C-Kcamel toes, frogs legs, elephant pads 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 camel toes, frogs legs, elephant padsI heard about elephant ears so far.Any other elephant body elements might be found in a Mack truck? Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-315443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Glad no one was hurt in this. Pad or axel mount failure is a sure thing here. I would not be to quick to point the finger at the mechanic. Take a look at the trunnion placement to the rear gate, that is a lot of distance. It looks like an old coal bucket setup. All the weight is over the boogies and not distributed over the length of the frame. Overloading the boogies can be done and the whole truck be under weight. The failure was triggered when the truck went over the bridge "bump" that is a huge shock load at that speed and loaded, just one to many times. I would be looking at bad chassis engineering. Maybe that is why the the trunnion was replaced in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-316176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I heard about elephant ears so far.Any other elephant body elements might be found in a Mack truck?yea the weight 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-316184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 yea the weight Out of likes Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-316565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Same size bolts on 34k 38k 44k 55k 58k 7/8 just longer U-bolts the same diameter 1 1/4 Ive had 60 plus tons on DM-600 & DM800 with bolster plates carry concrete I beams 90 ft long. 1 Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43029-loss-of-elephant-pad-buckets/#findComment-316798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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