cbooker Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Hello everyone, I figured if I wanted to do something I better talk with the experts on everything Mack. I have a 2000 CH 613 set forward axle day cab, it's a great little truck with an E7 that likes to knip the heels of those big cats. Even though it's set up with all the features I like, the modern amenities. I've still been in love with the superliner. Knowing I can't get out of this truck what I've got in it and trying to find a good superliner is getting harder and harder, I was wondering if putting a superliner cab on this frame with the hood would be possible? My thoughts were finding an RD cab between the years of 97 to 2001 would work as far as having all the electronics plug right in. And also wondering if the Superliner hood would fit over the radiator and air to air without any modifications.I know making the mounts for the hood and cab are part of it, I've worked in fab shops for years so that's nothing beyond my capability. Just wondering if anyone's ever done anything like this before. Thanks for any help Chris Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not aware of anyone putting Superliner clothes on a CH chassis.The amount of time and money is going to be HUGE! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I know OP is talking CH, which would be a massive undertaking, but wouldn't a CL actually be the "way-to-go" for attempting a late model body swap? They share the same frame. . . Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbooker Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Actually looking to put it all together over the next year and do the swap next winter. Since asphalt is seasonal during the summer months I figured be a good time to flirt with the idea Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I also flirt with that kind of idea but not able to get a set forward axle CH overhere, CX Visions only.You should double check frames' front part similaryty, it might be so.If rails and spring hangers aren't of the same style I wouldn't go with deep modifications.An RD cab you mention has the same cowl form as a RW at the left only. The right side where an air cleaner is mounted is different and must be reworked.Vlad Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I wanted to make my 95 rd into a superliner but everyone on here Said its not worth it and not possible so i gave up and I bought a pete 379I bought this insteadCost 3 times as much as the mack but oh well at this point. Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Are you working on a tractor or a dump truck? What are other specifics? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think it's only limited by your imagination. I reckon if you were to go ahead you'd wanna look at lots of different ways to mount up the hood as that's is going to be your biggest hurdle. I'll post a pic of my dads Mack when I get a chance as it has a clever way to mount the hood. If you do go ahead with it, be sure to document it and take lots of pics cause it would make interesting reading. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogg rescue Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Maybe you could take the ch hood and hybridize a superliner hood together. The end result would be cool,of course you would need to be a fiberglass wizard, but with a lot of planning and cutting I think it could be done. The best part is you could get a second hood and not have to blow your truck all apart. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think it's only limited by your imagination. I reckon if you were to go ahead you'd wanna look at lots of different ways to mount up the hood as that's is going to be your biggest hurdle.I'll post a pic of my dads Mack when I get a chance as it has a clever way to mount the hood.If you do go ahead with it, be sure to document it and take lots of pics cause it would make interesting reading.Timmy, If you'd be able to show us how the hood is attached to the frame on Aussie RW2 I'm two thumbs up to see it. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbooker Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Are you working on a tractor or a dump truck? What are other specifics? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbooker Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) It's a tractor, CH613, 200 inch wheel base, air ride, lightweight specs. It's a nice light truck, good for big pay load. That's why I thought it would be cool to convert. It makes me wonder if the R cab and rw hood are lighter than the CH? I also know about the RD cab with the air cleaner intake, I'd just cut out the hood or change the cowl. I already have an idea for the cab mounting, just curious about radiator/air to air fitting in the Superliner hood. No Superliner || around to get dimensions. Edited December 14, 2015 by cbooker Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If it's a nice truck, I think you would be making a mistake doing something like this to it. Sell your truck, and buy what you want. There are nice S/L's around. I would be fearful of having a truck that nobody will want. If you did this, you would be creating a monster. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbooker Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Would that make it a Super-Stein or a Franken-Liner 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think maybe easier to find your donor Superliner and swap parts into that than the other way around. 1 Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-315686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murf716 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'm a big guy so I would never downgrade to a RD cab with the CH having twice the room. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Not been in a CH cab for awhile but what I can remember I didn't think they are much different size wise Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Not been in a CH cab for awhile but what I can remember I didn't think they are much different size wiseThey are a lot wider. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKTRUCKS4 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think it could be done since the Superliners sit higher on the frame than the RD's. I think since they are higher, hood clearance shouldn't be as big a problem. But I would change the side panels and use the Superliner hood. I don't think the wire harnesses would interchange, you may have to change the engine harness to the RD's. Quote Live every day like it's your last, because one of these days, it will be. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If the cab is wider than the hood will not fit unless it is modified. The side or kick panels on the cowl are longer/deeper than an R but I don't know how you could use those without widening the hood than you would have an issue with the grill Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Heck, just buy a CL or a Superliner and be done with it! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-321667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
broke buckeye Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm glad I'm not the only one with this idea! We had an '01 CH613 w/460XT and 18spd catch fire in the parking lot one night and I hate to part the thing out so brother and I were just having this same exact conversation last week. I don't have anything to loose but time and money in a cab and hood. Regardless we have to buy a cab and hood so what the heck. I'll post pics when we get started... 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-322686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbooker Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Cool love to see, I thought I read somewhere that a superliner is 120 inches from front of hood to back of cab which is 8 inches longer than the CH, rough guess. I haven't been on here for a while because of a little conflict at work, I need a sleeper truck now instead of a day cab! Now don't know what to do. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-323080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 A CH/Superliner with Sleeper would be sharp!! 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43036-making-a-2000-ch-613-into-a-superliner/#findComment-323084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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