Willie dog Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ok fellas,I know this is probably a dumb question. How do you get the front drums off a b model? I have looked for center type cap to remove like you would for a car and remove the wheel bearing and pull the drum off. I cleaned the junk from around the center to look for a seam but can't see anything. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maddog13407 Posted December 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2015 thats an Erie wheel, was only used on B42's. take a oil filter wrench and screw the hubcap off.... the nuts and retainers are underneath. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 not sure exactly how but that outer cap has to come off. where in va are you? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 thats an Erie wheel, was only used on B42's. take a oil filter wrench and screw the hubcap off.... the nuts and retainers are underneath.bdamn learn something new everyday Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicpelle Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Don't feel bad brother, I'm always asking questions then realize how stupid I am after I get the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 See. I knew it would pay off to ask the right people. Thanks a ton. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 not sure exactly how but that outer cap has to come off. where in va are you? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 not sure exactly how but that outer cap has to come off. where in va are you? I'm not far from Winchester VA Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm not far from Winchester VAi`m near harrisonburg Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 i`m near harrisonburgI'm right smack between Harrisonburg and Winchester in Woodstock. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm right smack between Harrisonburg and Winchester in Woodstock.just up the street 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coenut Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Might be a stupid question but did Mack use any left handed threads on the wheel studs or caps in this case? I know some car manufacturers did back in the day. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Might be a stupid question but did Mack use any left handed threads on the wheel studs or caps in this case? I know some car manufacturers did back in the day.Only left-hand threads I know of are on BUDD wheels... On the left side of the truck. Right-hand on the right side. I've seen many rookie mechanics get screwed up with this... ME INCLUDED lol. Now there is a whole generation behind me that has never even seen Budd wheels. The newer style hub pilot uses right hand threads all around.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Might be a stupid question but did Mack use any left handed threads on the wheel studs or caps in this case?Generally there will be a small "L" stamped in the end of a left hand thread wheel stud. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Only left-hand threads I know of are on BUDD wheels... On the left side of the truck. Right-hand on the right side. I've seen many rookie mechanics get screwed up with this... ME INCLUDED lol. Now there is a whole generation behind me that has never even seen Budd wheels. The newer style hub pilot uses right hand threads all around.Sent from my XT1254 using TapatalkA girlfriend in high school had a '75 Valiant,she asked me one day if I would change a flat for her,I twisted 2 studs of before I realized the old Plymouth had left handed threads. I'd never heard of cars having them,just Budd wheels. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b615rich Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I think it was only Dodge & Chrysler. Their engineers were always trying to be "progressive". I learned the hard way on a Coronet ? Mid 60's. Then 35 years later the hard way again on my AC. Never heard of Erie wheels. Different from Daytons some other way too? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I learned the hard way too about left hand threads on a Road runner (I think it was) in high school auto shop.I twisted off two lugs also before I figured out why they seemed so dang tight!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Great. Now that I know how to get the drum off, I have just created a little more work. Oh well. It's going down to the bare frame anyway. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Erie made wheels for trailers mostly. was just a manufacturer. I dunno why, probably money but Mack used those Erie wheels on the FA505 front axle ONLY on B42's from about 59-61 then went back to the sturdier style spoke that you could see the nuts for the drum (the old style original wheel used from 53-59) and used it way into the 70's on the R models. i know those rounded style wheels say Erie on them and even the correct wheel wedges do for them. always thought they were an ugly wheel actually. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Only left-hand threads I know of are on BUDD wheels... On the left side of the truck. Right-hand on the right side. I've seen many rookie mechanics get screwed up with this... ME INCLUDED lol. Now there is a whole generation behind me that has never even seen Budd wheels. The newer style hub pilot uses right hand threads all around.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Not too hard to work with,as long as it's as was done from the Factory. I had one truck where,years earlier,the owner had done all the brakes;the rears were still correct,but he'd swapped the front hubs/drums side for side,and I fought with that for about a week before it occurred to me that I was probably tightening the front lugs when I thought they were just stuck. On reassembly,I got 'em correct.Speed Quote "Remember-ANY Gun Control is Unconstitutional!"<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>MACK-E Model Registry # 36</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><a href="http://www.nvabatetravel.com/"target="_blank">http://www.nvabatetravel.com/</a> Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 On this particular b 42 the threads are all right hand. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Oh well. It's going down to the bare frame anyway. That's a true way. Just long a little bit 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 That's a true way. Just long a little bit I can't stop at "good enough ". I see things that no one else would notice. I even blast and paint the inside of the brake drums. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-315724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I can't stop at "good enough ". I see things that no one else would notice. I even blast and paint the inside of the brake drums.Ufff...I tell you a secret - I didn't do that Haven't blasted and painted brake shoe bases either.Just pretty sure no one would see those areas and nothing bad about any technical issues.Sure you should do things the way you're completey satisfied of.But it seems to me sometimes I should achieve satisfaction of 90% only.I should go ahead and can't afford redoing some things twice or three times just because I'm not 100% happy of how it's done. 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-316057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Ufff...I tell you a secret - I didn't do that Haven't blasted and painted brake shoe bases either.Just pretty sure no one would see those areas and nothing bad about any technical issues.Sure you should do things the way you're completey satisfied of.I always say to do as much or as little as you are happy with. But it seems to me sometimes I should achieve satisfaction of 90% only.I should go ahead and can't afford redoing some things twice or three times just because I'm not 100% happy of how it's done. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43046-newbie-with-a-problem/#findComment-316064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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