dexter860 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It seems nobody knows much about how to tune a Mack to make it run good, I've been considering a 95 CH 613 with E7 350 v Mac. Everyone seems clueless about these engines, I called Pittsburgh power, and they won't even work on a mack, they said they nothing about them. I talked to a Mack and Cat dealer, they couldn't tell me much about mack, just (they're ok) . It seems this truck would make a good local truck pulling a flat, Its a lightweight truck with a pre emmision 728 cu in engine, seems it should compete with any truck of its day as far as fuel economy, if tuned good and running properly, but everyone seems to laugh when I say mack! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I just bought a stage 3 kit from Rochester Fuel Injection for my E7 400. They say I'll see a 30 to 40 percent increase with it. I don't know for sure if they have a kit for your 350, but it's worth a call. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post merkle's Posted December 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2015 Antrim Diesel!My SuperLiner is there nowSent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 What does Antrim say the increase in power will be? 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkle's Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well... That has been the hard part. They do alot of MACKS and it seems like a normal thing so they haven't really said what I'll get but they said I should be happy. Doing injectors and Turbo and my motor didn't have a Jake so they are installing Jake. (Looking for some 680 Jake parts now)They will dyno it and I'll be able to see what the increase is. They know alot! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I am installing injectors and turbo on Saturday. I wish I could dyno before and after. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 68-f-model Posted December 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2015 My 2 cents on "turning up" a diesel is if you want more hp. buy a truck with a larger engine.It will last longer than a small one pushed to its max and the larger engine most likely be cheaper in the long run.Usually the factory settings are so the engine lives a long and happy life. 9 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 The 30 percent injectors are the way to go. . they do make a blixxton box tuner also .also you can advance the timing on that year e7 . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I agree in general 68 F Model, but the factory guys are SOOOO conservative there is plenty of wiggle room for some modifications that are safe. As long as you don't get out of control and you monitor EGT's and keep them in a safe zone via your go fast foot, you should be okay. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexter860 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 My main concern is fuel economy, I've heard sometimes turning one up a little and then drive like there's an egg between your foot they'll get better economy,but how does this engine compare to say s 12.7 Detroit or a M 11 Cummins for fuel?? Is this an economical engine or a fuel hog? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Very economical 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack mhe9 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I love Richard at Antrim. When I said I would like to step up my E9 awhile back I asked what he thought and he said you'll be happy and at 742 to the ground I am. With more power you will gain better drivability and fuel milage. But you can't drive it like you stole it. And what every one else will say you have to watch your heat.Good luck. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexter860 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Ok, sounds like its got a chance, you would think it would have to be better than C 15 acert on fuel, thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I drive this truck myself. I am a heavy haul contractor. I am routinely 120,000 to 145,000 pounds. There is one thing that will get you up a hill at that weight, power. I have a bunch of gauges that all need to be watched, not the least of which is the pyrometer. I watch it now, and I'll keep an eye on it after I install the stage 3 RFI kit. As for the theory that big power can only come from big displacement, look at Detroit. I've never seen more power, efficiency and longevity than we see in the cars made today. They make more steam with less inches than ever before. And the cars run more miles than ever before. This may turn out to be a bad thing for my truck, but I'm giving it a try. - Tom Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 We just got thru putting new injectors in the '85 my son drives,E6-350 4 valve,didn't get crazy,got the biggest ones available from Mack,also turned the pump up a little. He says it runs like a totally different truck,gained 10 lbs. of boost,only ran 2 tanks of fuel thru it since,but seems to be doing better on fuel. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I was told my fuel mileage would increase as a result of not needing to stand on the throttle so long. Paul at RFI told me that what I'm adding to my 400 was mild. He said the same engine as mine was commonly turned up way more. I'm confident in what I'm doing here. I can always go back to my stock parts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I agree in general 68 F Model, but the factory guys are SOOOO conservative there is plenty of wiggle room for some modifications that are safe. As long as you don't get out of control and you monitor EGT's and keep them in a safe zone via your go fast foot, you should be okay. The factory also builds them to be universally accepted, so they're set middle ground so to speak. If you stay some what conservative on the up grades, drive it sensibly, watch the pyro and other gauges you'll have no problems.IMO Paul 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 What would the Blixxton add to the stage 3 kit I'm installing? I have one on the truck now. I just planned on moving it to another truck. I have two that it could go on. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-318141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbred Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 GOOG you said you have an E7 Vmac right? Do the RFI Injectors work on a mechanical E7? Does anybody have any experience with their turbo and injector setups from RFI on an E7 and what kind of power are you getting while still having a drivable work truck? I know that they used to offer the ME7 in marine applications I think up to like 650 Hp. Obviously marine applications don't have a cooling issue.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-319724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post staxx Posted January 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2016 Let them keep laughing I took our 99 mp7 powered Mack to a points Championship this year in ChampTruck race series !👍🏁🏁 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-319729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple dog Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Antrim Diesel!My SuperLiner is there nowSent from my XT1254 using TapatalkCall Antrim (717) 597-7963 talk to Richard Price he will treat you right. They done my truck, my father in laws truck and doing one for a friend now. The more dead presidents you have the more horse power you can get. 1 Quote This is Mack country. On a quiet night you can hear a peterbilt rust away. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-319732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddy2030 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Let them keep laughing I took our 99 mp7 powered Mack to a points Championship this year in ChampTruck race series !image.jpegimage.jpegimage.jpegCONGRATULATIONS!!!!! That's awesome to see!!!!You have an MP7 in it? How much power? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-319740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackncheese Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I took my 05 granite with a 460 hp ASET AI and an 18sp to Antrim. Detroit series 60 turbo, bigger injectors, area diesel box and I ended up with 467 at the rear wheels with the fan on. There is a small flat spot when you shift and you have to watch the pyro temp but the truck pulls good. The price's of Antrim are decent honest people, but they are a little slow but definetly worth the wait. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-319858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 How much are a set of stage 3 injectors for our trucks? (99 355/380hp) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-321370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Usually around $145 a piece exchange Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43339-how-do-you-get-horsepower-out-of-a-mack/#findComment-321416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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