The 2016 "Presidential Elections" Show

[kscarbel2]

Trump is now president elect.

[carlotpilot]

1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said:

Trump is now president elect.

lets hope this works                             I listened to his acceptance speech as he made it.  that was the second eloquent winner speech I have heard in my 70 yrs. the first was reagan

Edited November 9, 2016 by carlotpilot

[kscarbel2]

Associated Press  /  November 9, 2016

Donald Trump was elected America's 45th president Tuesday, an astonishing victory for a celebrity businessman and political novice who capitalized on voters' economic anxieties, took advantage of racial tensions and overcame a string of sexual assault allegations on his way to the White House.

His triumph over Hillary Clinton will end eight years of Democratic dominance of the White House and threatens to undo major achievements of President Barack Obama.

Trump has pledged to quickly repeal Obama's landmark health care law, revoke the nuclear agreement with Iran and rewrite important trade deals with other countries, particularly Mexico and Canada.

The Republican blasted through Democrats' longstanding firewall, carrying Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, states that hadn't voted for a GOP presidential candidate since the 1980s. He needed to win nearly all of the competitive battleground states, and he did just that, claiming Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and others.

Global stock markets and U.S. stock futures plunged deeply, reflecting investor alarm over what a Trump presidency might mean for the economy and trade.

A New York real estate developer who lives in a sparking Manhattan high-rise, Trump forged a striking connection with white, working class Americans who feel left behind in a changing economy and diversifying country. He cast immigration, both from Latin America and the Middle East, as the root of the problems plaguing many Americans and taped into fears of terrorism emanating at home and abroad.

Trump will take office with Congress expected to be fully under Republican control. GOP Senate candidates fended off Democratic challengers in key states and appeared poised to maintain the majority. Republicans also maintained their grip on the House.

Senate control means Trump will have great leeway in appointing Supreme Court justices, which could mean a major change to the right that would last for decades.

Trump upended years of political convention on his way to the White House, leveling harshly personal insults on his rivals, deeming Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers, and vowing to temporarily suspend Muslim immigration to the U.S. He never released his tax returns, breaking with decades of campaign tradition, and eschewed the kind of robust data and field efforts that helped Obama win two terms in the White House, relying instead on his large, free-wheeling rallies to energize supporters. His campaign was frequently in chaos, and he cycled through three campaign managers this year.

The mood at Clinton's party grew bleak as the night wore out, with some supporters leaving, others crying and hugging each other. Top campaign aides stopped returning calls and texts, as Clinton and her family hunkered down in a luxury hotel watching the returns.

Trump will inherit an anxious nation, deeply divided by economic and educational opportunities, race and culture.

Exit polls underscored the fractures: Women nationwide supported Clinton by a double-digit margin, while men were significantly more likely to back Trump. More than half of white voters backed the Republican, while nearly 9 in 10 blacks and two-thirds of Hispanics voted for the Democrat.

Doug Ratliff, a 67-year-old businessman from Richlands, Virginia, said Trump's election would be one of the happiest days of his life.

"This county has had no hope," said Ratliff, who owns strip malls in the area badly beaten by the collapse of the coal industry. "You have no idea what it would mean for the people if Trump won. They'll have hope again. Things will change. I know he's not going to be perfect. But he's got a heart. And he gives people hope."

Trump has pledged to usher in a series of sweeping changes to U.S. domestic and foreign policy: repealing Obama's signature health care law, though he has been vague on what he could replace it with; building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border; and suspending immigration from country's with terrorism ties. He's also praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and spoken of building a better relationship with Moscow, worrying some in his own party who fear he'll go easy on Putin's provocations.

The Republican Party's tortured relationship with its nominee was evident right up to the end. Former President George W. Bush and wife Laura Bush declined to back Trump, instead selecting "none of the above" when they voted for president.

Democrats, as well as some Republicans, expected Trump's unconventional candidacy would damage down-ballot races and even flip some reliably red states in the presidential race. But Trump held on to Republican territory, including in Georgia and Utah, where Clinton's campaign confidently invested resources.

Clinton asked voters to keep the White House in her party's hands for a third straight term. She cast herself as heir to President Barack Obama's legacy and pledged to make good on his unfinished agenda, including passing immigration legislation, tightening restrictions on guns and tweaking his signature health care law.

But she struggled throughout the race with persistent questions about her honesty and trustworthiness. Those troubles flared anew late in the race, when FBI Director James Comey announced a review of new emails from her tenure at the State Department. On Sunday, just two days before Election Day, Comey said there was nothing in the material to warrant criminal charges against Clinton.

[kscarbel2]

 

[kscarbel2]

Trump had said multiple times that, if elected, "She [Hillary Clinton] has to go to jail". (Based on what we're told, I couldn't agree more)

But today, Trump said in his victory speech, "We owe (Clinton) a very major debt of gratitude to her for her service to our country."

If Ambassador Chris Stevens could speak down to us, I doubt he'd be so kind.

It all implies that a backroom agreement was made within the last 30 days. My gut feeling is Trump has agreed not to have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Clinton, if she goes quietly.

[kscarbel2]

Allegedly, big business, the financial world and governments around the world were relatively confident that their girl would win, and will be shaken for a period of time by the uncertainty of Trump's win. Hedging their bets, I assume they held discrete discussions with him over the last 60 days.

We'll have to see.......it could be interesting.

If he holds to his promises, the next four years shouldn't be the least bit dull.

[hatcity]

we had the choice of two evils......we still had to choose evil

due to the mud-slinging, muck raking, dirt digging, ......... the people that SHOULD be up for President stay away. (see Ross Perot)

Chris Matthews is about to jump off The Rock

[kscarbel2]

Two days ago, most of the mainstream media was still slamming Trump.

Within the first six hours of Trump winning, the same mainstream media was being kind to him, hoping to get on his good side, with the White House Press Corps in mind.

Now, 12 hours later, the mainstream media to predicting gloom.

The sad thing is, many Americans are influenced one way or another by the mainstream media.

[kscarbel2]

We'll never know what happened......................but something "did" happen.

But it appears that when Comey announced the investigation of the emails on the Weiner computer 11 days before the election, Clinton lost her broad support from the aristocracy.

Secret discussions were held.......negotiations took place.

One obvious possibility is that knowing Hillary would have been plagued by investigations throughout her tenure made her election a non-option.

[RowdyRebel]

Since I don't have cable, I was limited to flipping between ABC, NBC, and CBS. It was fun watching these people who THINK they are the smartest people in the room realize they don't have a clue what they are talking about...and yet they kept talking.

[BillyT]

Well, we are finally on the eve of the" election of the century"! I deplore both non-candidates equally. This election epitomizes the concept of lesser of two evils! Both candidates are equally "self serving". Trump is a narcissistic boor, and Clinton is cunning and slippery! Both are immoral! I could tolerate their frailties of character were it not for their access to the dangerous " red" button"! Clinton, possibly owing to her law degree and a lifetime in politics "almost" never makes a statement or does anything without careful consideration! Trump, born wealthy, and accustomed to getting his way, reminds me of a spoiled three year old! So picture this scenario...One of enemies, Iran, China or Pakistan has an ICBM capable of reaching our shores, and they say something that pisses off President Trump, so he presses the red button! And as Islamabad, Tehran, or Beijing disintegrate, so does New York or LA!  Hillary would be thinking if America is bombed, my family could die too! So I'm not going to do that! Meanwhile after the missiles fly, President Trump is thinking "wow, I could die too. Maybe I shouldn't have done that!"  Also Trump says I'm not a politician! Bullshit! He's a major contractor who builds casinos. Who owns casinos. Heavy construction is nothing if not political! Ok enough politics, I'd rather talk about trucks and trucking. Rowdy Rebel, the answer to supporting American jobs is to boycott the Chinese-made crap! Of course it's impossible to not buy low dollar Chinese stuff, (toys nail clippers etc) cause they're ALL Chinese made! However, your example of Red Wing boots is a good one, I went into Rural King and all their western boots are Chinese made! I'm talking Tony Lama, Nocona,and the one I can't think of,were made in Texas are owned by Berkshire Hathaway! Shame on you Warren! Maybe if we emailed the people who do this crap, they'd think twice! All the Chinese boots were 90$ and up! I checked Red Wing and I think they wanted 150$ for the the pair I wanted, I'm gonna buy them! They will last twice as long! On the subject of union car hauling ,my first job was automobile transport out of the Pittsburgh railhead in Greentree, PA. It was 1974 and we were a 50 driver terminal. Every driver did a good days work and was well paid. I worked there and at the PandLE Railroad til 1979 when Nu Car Carriers bought us out. I worked at Nu Car a few months and went full time at the RR.I went back to car hauling in 87 at Leaseway Motorcar in Dundalk, Md. The money was much better but the equipment was scrap. And I didn't know any of the drivers.We had a thing (half rate backhaul) which was optional. You picked a front-haul at full rate and you got a home load at half rate. Normally you would D.H. home for free. So I'm at the Howard Johnson's in Newcastle DE and this other car hauler sits down. Says he's "broke down"! Yeah I picked a half rate backhaul I didn't want. So I cut my fan belts and I'm waiting for a repair truck ( on the clock) to fix it!  It is this kind of thinking that ruined what the union used to stand for! The reason some car haulers hated the half rate backhaul was you had to nurture a tight load of cars for the same rate a master freight driver got for a drop and hook. That's why it was optional! So don't pick the half rate load! Idiot! He caused a load to be late and cost his company an expensive road call plus his breakdown pay! Same deal when the United Steel Workers when they used to stay home and have your buddy punch you in and out! Used to do it at Homestead all the time! Well America has chosen the lesser of two evils...or have they? We will have to wait and see!

[41chevy]

I feel I voted for the appointment conservative Supreme Court Justices, not particularly the President. The Justices will be in the job for 30 or more years and will have a broader impact then Trump, Hillary or whom ever is next.

Edited November 10, 2016 by 41chevy

[BillyT]

Former president Bush and his wife's decision to leave the Clinton and Trump blocks blank on their ballot says it all!

[kscarbel2]

 

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[kscarbel2]

Why were the election polls so wrong? How Donald Trump defied predictions

The Guardian  /  November 9, 2016

Republican Donald Trump will become the next US president. Many will be wondering who, among the estimated 129 million voters in the 2016 election, Trump has to thank for his victory.

Possibly, not most of them. Current projections suggest that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton might narrowly claim a larger share of the popular vote. But the distribution of votes in the electoral college still means that Trump finished the night with 276 of the 270 college votes needed to win – and, once final counts come in from states that still haven’t officially been called, that count will probably jump to 306.

As I have written, part of the reason Trump’s win is being described as a “stunning upset” is because most opinion polling was inaccurate. And yet, the only information we have right now to make sense of Trump’s victory is yet more polling data – this time from exit polls.

Those exit polls point to one clear, deep divide in voting behavior – race. White voters chose Trump, non-white voters chose Clinton. This appears to be different from previous polling data, where the difference between candidates’ national popularity was so narrow that relatively small errors could affect the overall accuracy of results. The gap in Trump support between white voters and non-white voters is so large that even if exit polls were inaccurate, that difference probably still stands.

Perhaps that’s not surprising for a candidate who was endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan. What’s more surprising though is that exit polling suggests Trump was able to slightly increase his vote share among black, Hispanic and Asian voters compared with Mitt Romney’s performance in 2012.

There are other demographic cleavages in US voting, but they don’t appear quite as dramatic as the racial one. Exit polls suggest that, as expected, more women voted for Clinton while more men voted for Donald Trump. Much like the UK’s Brexit result, younger voters (a demographic which typically has lower turnout rates) seemed to choose the losing candidate. Only 37% of voters aged 18-29 voted for Trump, compared with 53% of those aged 65 and over. Those numbers come from Edison Research, which spoke to 24,537 voters leaving 350 voting places across the country on election day.

Exit polling data on income points to another surprising result. The poorest voters, those with an income of $49,000 or less, seemed to choose Clinton over Trump –albeit by a much smaller margin than in 2012. For months, Trump was projected to win big among this group.

All this doesn’t necessarily mean that the numbers were wrong. These exit polls don’t reflect how people, or demographics, really work. American voters are not poor or black or female or college educated. In reality, people fit into multiple different groups at once. Two facts are simultaneously possible – that the poorest voters chose Clinton and that the poorest white voters chose Trump.

In data analysis, this process of looking at two different variables at once means looking at the “crosstabs”. The exit polling data does offer us one such crosstab – race and educational status. Those numbers suggest that Trump has one very clear group supporting him: white voters who don’t have a college degree. The numbers on race and education point to such a clear cleavage that even if they are slightly inaccurate, the overall conclusion still likely holds true.

That group might also offer some clues as to why polls were so badly off. Analysts have found that the states where Republican support was underestimated correlate with the states with a large non-college-educated white share of the population.

But it might be an overstatement to say that this group secured Trump’s victory. To understand that, we would need a detailed breakdown of votes by state, which we don’t yet have. There are other factors here, such as the millions of votes which went to third-party candidates, and whether Democratic turnout overall was down (it appears that it was).

Again, these numbers have their limitations – and they can be dangerous. Similar polling data led the Clinton campaign to feel quietly confident of a victory in Wisconsin and Michigan, and to therefore air few advertisements in those states. Both ended up voting for President-elect Donald Trump.

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[mackey58]

They're all crooks. Money goes to money. This country will never have REAL manufacturing jobs anymore because the 1 percenters don't want to pay good wages when overseas jobs pay with a bowl of rice. Soon enough, we will be on a reservation when the illegals takeover.

[41chevy]

I was watching coverage and some interviews of all the different areas where protesters (and rioters) are gathering, in Seattle, L.A. Philly, Portland Oregon and NYC . Two interesting points were gleaned from questions asked by a BBC reporter.  One asked of many was "did you vote?" Most answered no and some even said they were undocumented so they couldn't.

Second was "what exactly are you protesting?" the answers ranged from "Trump is anti Minority / sexist" to the old Occupy Wall Street line of "wealth inequity".  One  answer given by a young Hispanic woman was priceless, "I got paid $50.00 to come here"  Probably the most honest answer given.

[Brocky]

9 minutes ago, 41chevy said:

One  answer given by a young Hispanic woman was priceless, "I got paid $50.00 to come here"  Probably the most honest answer given.

Personally I believe that Jackson and Sharpton are behind a lot of the protests/riots just so they can keep S**T stirred up!!!! And of coarse Jackson is a welcome visitor to Obumma's parlor..

[41chevy]

6 hours ago, Brocky said:

Personally I believe that Jackson and Sharpton are behind a lot of the protests/riots just so they can keep S**T stirred up!!!! And of coarse Jackson is a welcome visitor to Obumma's parlor..

Soros?

[kscarbel2]

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

November 10, 2016

 

Remarks by President Obama and President-elect Trump After Meeting

Oval Office

12:36 P.M. EST

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Well, I just had the opportunity to have an excellent conversation with President-elect Trump.  It was wide-ranging.  We talked about some of the organizational issues in setting up the White House.  We talked about foreign policy.  We talked about domestic policy.  And as I said last night, my number-one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our President-elect is successful. 

And I have been very encouraged by the, I think, interest in President-elect Trump's wanting to work with my team around many of the issues that this great country faces.  And I believe that it is important for all of us, regardless of party and regardless of political preferences, to now come together, work together, to deal with the many challenges that we face. 

And in the meantime, Michelle has had a chance to greet the incoming First Lady.  And we had an excellent conversation with her as well, and we want to make sure that they feel welcome as they prepare to make this transition. 

Most of all, I want to emphasize to you, Mr. President-elect, that we now are going to want to do everything we can to help you succeed -- because if you succeed, then the country succeeds.

Please.

PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP:  Well, thank you very much, President Obama.  This was a meeting that was going to last for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, and we were just going to get to know each other.  We had never met each other.  I have great respect.  The meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half.  And it could have -- as far as I'm concerned, it could have gone on for a lot longer.

We really -- we discussed a lot of different situations, some wonderful and some difficulties.  I very much look forward to dealing with the President in the future, including counsel.  He explained some of the difficulties, some of the high-flying assets and some of the really great things that have been achieved. 

So, Mr. President, it was a great honor being with you, and I look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. 

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12:40 P.M. EDT

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[kscarbel2]

Military celebrating Donald Trump's win

The Washington Post  /  November 10, 2016

Like many Americans, active-duty service members stationed around the world were stunned at Tuesday's night's presidential race results.

"More than one person has compared it to the day Osama [Bin Laden] was killed," said one Army officer, referring to the day the al-Qaida leader was killed during a raid by U.S. Navy SEALs. "I guess there's a feeling among soldiers that Trump will care about them and fix everything they see as broken about the Army."

The officer, who like others spoke on the condition anonymity because of his active-duty status, also passed on a Snapchat image from a fellow Army officer. The picture depicted an alcoholic beverage with white text superimposed over the half-full glass that said: "Taking flag off wall, resigning commission tomorrow."

As a traditionally Republican stalwart, the U.S. military appears to be embracing real estate executive Donald Trump's Wednesday presidential win, though there is also a healthy amount of reservation as well, according to nearly a dozen active-duty service members interviewed for this report.

Pictures and videos were also circulating of soldiers celebrating the victory across the United States. At the Army's National Training Center at Fort Irwin, California, soldiers cheered in their barracks as Trump's electoral vote count broached 270.

Overseas in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, however, the response was more muted. A soldier serving in southern Afghanistan said that the election was barely discussed at his small base. Afghanistan in particular received hardly any attention during the presidential race. The soldier said troops were more focused on what was going to be for dinner last night.

Outside Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city and the site of a bloody campaign against the Islamic State, BuzzFeed's Mike Giglio tweeted a few impressions from the soldiers with whom he was embedded.

"Last night no one wanted to sleep. We stayed up on the phones trying to watch results come back," he quoted one soldier as saying.

"Our TV screen: drone footage on one half, FOX & CNN on the other," another soldier said.

Many in uniform said that they see support for Trump, with his vague foreign policy goals, as more of a referendum on former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, who many rank-and-file troops view with suspicion for handling classified material in a manner that would garner severe punishments if they had acted in a similar manner. They also said that they see Trump as a candidate that could usher in serious change on the military's cultural issues, including gender integration.

Service members interviewed for this report spoke of what they see as a groundswell of potential for Trump reversing the effects of the 2013 sequester and an announcement that same year by the Obama administration that opened all combat jobs to women. The decision was finalized by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter in December 2015.

Two active-duty enlisted infantry Marines, one at a sniper school and another in an infantry battalion, said some members of their units hope Trump looks at the data provided by the Marine Corps on its gender integration studies and comes to a conclusion that isn't "political" and hopefully reverses the decision to allow women in combat roles. In 2014, the Marines started a nine-month experiment with a gender integrated infantry unit that concluded with mixed results.

A female Army lieutenant, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that she was worried about losing some of the gains that women in the military have made in recent years. She said that she didn't trust Vice President-elect Mike Pence to believe in gender equality.

At the Pentagon and higher headquarters, where the military's bureaucracy is a maze of offices and acronyms, troops stationed there are worried that Trump might not have the firmest grasp on how the defense of the country actually works, and they said that they are increasingly concerned about how mission priorities and resources might be shuffled - for better or for worse - in the coming months.

It is unclear and probably difficult to say whether Trump's support is split between officer and enlisted lines, as those interviewed for this report said pockets of both supported and decried the candidate.

On Wednesday morning, Carter issued a statement about the election to the Pentagon, but the short paragraph did not mention Trump by name.

"I am very proud of the way each and every one of you conducted yourselves during this campaign, standing apart from politics and instead focusing on your sacred mission of providing security," Carter said. "I am committed to overseeing the orderly transition to the next Commander-in-Chief. I know I can count on you to execute all your duties with the excellence our citizens know they can expect."

[kscarbel2]

Looking at this from outside the box..............

"We're going to make America great again. Politicians aren't going to do that"......Trump

I couldn't agree more. But who are the "we" non-politicians? All the people on Trump's team are.......politicians.

We've all seen news reports over the last 24 hours pointing out that, after running a campaign touting that he would "drain the swamp" in Washington, his team is full of "swamp people".

Christie, from New Jersey where the swamp politicians theme song was written ("anything's legal as long as you don't get caught "), is facing calls for impeachment over his "Bridgegate".

Now, Pence is in charge, and Pence is a great admirer of Draconian Dick Cheney, perhaps the one individual most singularly responsible for the birth of ISIS. I find that scary.

“I frankly hold Dick Cheney in really high regard in his role as vice president and as an American,”.......Pence