Popular Post joes mack Posted January 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks to the efforts of Howard Peiffer, the Palm Coast Fire Department, the Palm Cost city council ,and Don Holden the Lower Cloverfork Fire Department got a 1986 Mack donated to them. this effort by all of them to help our community is greatly appreciated by all of the members and all of the neighboring fire departments. 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA_Dave Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Awesome! That Howard is a good guy! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-319926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Howard is a great guy I am glad I had the chance to meet and get to spend time with him over the last few days Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-319940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOG93 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Howe, A New York kind of guy ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-319944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALS327 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Howard is a wonderful man who is full of knowledge and passion for fire fighting and its history. He has put a lot of effort into helping the Lower Clover Fork Fire Department. The addition of the Mack CF was much needed. This apparatus will help provide fire protection in Lower Clover Fork and the surrounding communities. I am proud to say that he is a friend of mine.Don 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-319958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 were slowly building a little New York here on Cloverfork thanks to Howard and Don Yocum Creek Fire Dept has 3 CFs Upper Cloverfork has 3 CFs and now Lower Cloverfork has 1. now if we can get a couple R models for the tankers we will be set for life. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-319960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 My wife's parents and grandparents are from Harlan County (Evarts, Lynch and Cawood). We spent last Thanksgiving there. It is one of my favorite places on earth to visit, but the poverty that is evident throughout those hills is heartbreaking. The media portrays the hungry and the poor as city dwellers and rarely do they get off their butts to go see how the rest of America struggles unless its Diane Sawyer who went to Harlan to tell America that the kids there drink too much Mountain Dew. It was pathetic, look it up on YouTube I'm sure its available.Anyway... This donation will make a huge difference. Round of applause for Howard. 1 Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I remember that story and recall thinking that these folks don't have two nickels to rub together. We need some industry that the EPA won't banish from existence for areas like this. It's nice to have some clean air but it would be great if we could all have some food on the table...and a table with a roof over it as well. It's good to see they are getting a little help for something there. I guess we need more "undocumented workers" to help depress wages more....Oh yeah, that is a nice looking truck too. There sure are a bunch of levers at the top of the control panel...Need a PHD to figure all that stuff out. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yarnall Posted January 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2016 Congratulations. What's the story? Where is Palm Coast? Don, how did you play into this?I often wonder why more trucks are not donated to needy companies. Three of my local companies consolidated and they have a 1988 Pierce sitting in the unused house. They tried to sell it to me but I only offered $3000. I don't want it and I don't need it, but they could donated it to a company that both wants it and needs it. It would be doing what it was made to do rather than sitting unused and unneeded. I only paid $2900 for my CF just out of service. I doubt that money made a big difference to the company I bought it from but the truck could have made a big difference to a needy community. Anyway, congratulations again. I hope it serves the community well. Mike 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Congratulations Joe, take good care of it.mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Congratulations. What's the story? Where is Palm Coast? Don, how did you play into this?I often wonder why more trucks are not donated to needy companies. Three of my local companies consolidated and they have a 1988 Pierce sitting in the unused house. They tried to sell it to me but I only offered $3000. I don't want it and I don't need it, but they could donated it to a company that both wants it and needs it. It would be doing what it was made to do rather than sitting unused and unneeded. I only paid $2900 for my CF just out of service. I doubt that money made a big difference to the company I bought it from but the truck could have made a big difference to a needy community.Anyway, congratulations again. I hope it serves the community well.MikeJust below St. Augustine, FL Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 the department this truck went to was in bad need of it they did not have a running truck and we (yocum creek ) loaned them our 1967 F 700 ford to keep the state from shutting the doors. if they had of been closed down there community would not of had any fire protection until we would of got there which is about 10 to 15 minutes away. being we run mutual aid with them anyway at least they were on scene spraying water when we got there. now they have this truck and there Chevrolet pumper running again they should be able to be more aggressive with the water until our tanker and engine get there. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VALS327 Posted January 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hello Mike here's the story, Several years ago the Yocum Creek Fire department acquired a 1987 Mack CF from the Evarts Fire Department. Then Captain Joe Wynn aka "joes mack" posted about the truck on this site asking questions about Mack Fire Engines. It became clear to me he and his fire department loved the quality of the Mack Fire Apparatus. Joe continually asked questions about their Mack and making repairs to some of the valves. Joe also asked questions about making repairs to a 1972 Ford/American LaFrance engine they had. One day while responding to a call the Ford had a catastrophic failure to the drive train. Fortunately nobody was injured but the truck was permanently out of service. Joe began looking for a replacement vehicle and asked questions about a Mack CF that was located in CT. We corresponded by phone and email. Unfortunately Yocum Creek was unable to get the funding for the rig they were looking at. Joe and I had continued to talk and not only did he love Mack Fire apparatus but he takes great pride in his community. I told Joe I would help him find a replacement engine for the Ford. Eventually I was made aware that the Cromwell CT Fire Department was selling a 1976 Mack CF. I placed a bid on the rig and bought it so that it could be given to the Yocum Creek Fire Department. After picking up the rig I drove it to Yocum Creek. Upon arrival I was amazed at what I saw. Harlan County KY is a beautiful place that has not done well financially due to the war on coal. On one of my visits to Yocum Creek we went around to other fire departments including the Lower Clover fork Fire Department. All of their truck were out of service and they were using the 1967 Ford Borrowed from Yocum Creek. I again started looking for another truck to go to KY. In September of this year at the Engine 260 Muster in Milford CT I spoke to Howard Peiffer and told about Lower Clover Fork Fire Department. Howard then went back to Florida and started making an effort to get a CF which had been removed from service to be sold to Lower Clover Fork. Thanks to Howards efforts with the Palm Coast Fire Chief and the city council he was able to get the 1986 Mack CF donated. Howard then took it a step further and paid to have the rig transported from Florida. As if that was not enough he also drove to KY so he could hold drivers training for Lower Clover Fork Fire Department to familiarize them with the rig. Joe is now the Chief of the Yocum Creek Fire Department. He has established a great working relationship with all the fire departments located in the Clover Fork Region of Harlan County. They are holding combined training sessions so that the fire fighters have more training hours available to them. This has also help getting the departments to work together as more of a regional fire department then as individual departments. They take great pride in their community and help in many more ways then just putting out fires. In the time that I have known Joe I have seen great improvement training and brotherhood between the fire departments in the Clover Fork Region. They are providing a professional service with a very limited budget. I hope this answers your questions Mike.Don 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Great story. Maybe we can get more trucks headed to needy departments. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I have often wondered why the IAFC did not have some kind of an on-line exchange for departments that need gear so they could pair up with those places that would be willing to help out. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wonton Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I thought only the AC Mack was caled a "Bulldog"; is evry Mack a buldog? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 I am trying to add the link to the video and article but I cant figure out how to do it the web address is wymt.com if you would like to watch the video and read the article joe Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaff5045 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Nice to see a perfectly good fire truck going somewhere needed and not the scrap yard.Good luck with it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-320498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hatfield Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Great story! If more departments would donate or sell reasonable more truck's to department with limited funds, it would be greatly appreciated! My younger brother is a volunteer at a rural department in Tennessee and they struggle to keep trucks in good shape and running. I think they have 3 CF's that are second or third hand trucks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-321254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOG93 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Nicely done to both you and Howie as I am proud to call both of you my friends. Angelo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/43504-another-bulldog-in-ky/#findComment-321532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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