International Truck Launches “HX” Vocational Series

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Navistar Press Release / February 1, 2016

New Class 8 Vocational Truck Models Drive International Truck's Re-Entry to the Construction and Concrete Market, Complete Severe Service Line-up

International Truck today launched the International HX Series, a new line of Class 8 premium vocational trucks designed to deliver the strength and endurance required for the severe service industry. This is the first all-new vehicle introduced by International Truck since 2010.

"The launch of the HX Series is an opportunity for International to recapture a leading position in the vocational market – a segment we previously led," said Troy Clarke, President and CEO, Navistar, Inc. "The launch of the HX Series underscores our commitment to innovation, our dedication to uptime and our position as a leader within the industry."

The new truck series, unveiled today at the World of Concrete trade show, will replace the International PayStar model.

"The design of our new HX Series is based on in-depth discussions with leading users of severe service applications," said Bill Kozek, president, Truck and Parts, Navistar, Inc. "Each of the four models in the series has been engineered to deliver unmatched performance for the most punishing jobs, while making operators more productive."

International is taking orders for this vehicle immediately. The first vehicles will be delivered this spring.

HX Series Addresses Full Range of Applications

Four HX Series models will be offered, with both set-forward and set-back front axle models in either short or long hood, depending on the application. Three models were unveiled at World of Concrete:

- The HX515 is a 115" BBC Set-forward Axle Straight Truck with primary vocations including concrete mixer, construction dump, refuse/roll-off and crane.

- The HX615 is a 115" BBC Set-back Axle Truck or Tractor with primary vocations including construction dump, concrete mixer, platform stake/crane and refuse/roll-off.

- The HX620 is a 120" BBC Set-forward Axle Truck or Tractor with primary vocations including heavy haul tractor, construction dump and platform stake/crane.

The fourth model, the HX520, is a 120" BBC Set-forward Axle Truck or Tractor with primary vocations including heavy haul tractor, construction dump and platform stake/crane. It will be formally unveiled at Truck World in Toronto in April.

The HX515 and the HX615 models are powered by Navistar N13 engines, while the HX520 and HX620 models offer the Cummins ISX15 engine.

Each model in the HX Series delivers on four key principles of design: maximum strength and durability, driver productivity, bold styling and superior uptime.

"The HX Series combines aggressive styling, unstoppable capability and driver-centric features to appeal to vocational truck owners in a whole new way," said Denny Mooney, senior vice president, Global Product Development, Navistar, Inc. "All you need to do is get behind the wheel of this truck and you will see that this is a major step forward in design, all with the driver in mind."

Specifics of the HX Series include:

Strength and Durability

- Each model has a huck-bolted frame and cross members, which produce superior clamping force to minimize vibration and maximize structural integrity.

- An available industry-leading 12.5" x .5" single rail delivers 3.5 million RBM at 13% less weight than a 10" rail, allowing room for a heavier load.

- The industry's only dedicated vocational aluminum cab offers better durability than steel.

- The three-piece Metton hood is stronger and lighter than fiberglass and is designed to resist cracking.

- Doors feature stainless steel piano hinges for superior strength.

- The industry's strongest tow pin is rated at 150,000 PSI for extreme recovery towing.

Driver Productivity

- The maneuverability and visibility of each truck in the HX Series is best-in-class.

- A 40-degree wheel cut on both right and left turns allows for improved maneuverability, while angled fenders provide greater wheel clearance to help power through challenging grounds.

- The hood's low angle makes for the industry's best front forward visibility, and the larger rear window compared to the company's prior model allows for superior rear visibility.

- The HX Series is equipped with the all-new DriverFirst™ Cab Air Suspension, designed with 52" springs to produce a supremely comfortable and quiet ride reducing driver stress and improving productivity.

- For faster and more convenient access, the HX Series hood has an assist mechanism requiring little effort to open.

Bold and Aggressive Styling

- Hoods and grilles across the entire lineup are designed to look great and stand out on the road and at the worksite.

- Customers will have options for bright finishes.

- The interior was ergonomically designed to offer more room for driver comfort and productivity.

- The contoured door handles add hip room and storage space.

- The central console is angled for easy reach to controls.

- There is easy access to cup holders and the overhead console.

- The standard tilt/telescoping steering column adjusts to accommodate any size driver.

- Gauges are designed and positioned to deliver optimal visibility and vital information at a glance.

- LED lighting is standard throughout, as are air conditioning, power windows and power locks.

Industry-leading Uptime

- Consistent with the International mission, the HX Series has been tested and validated to provide industry-leading uptime, with the sort of durability and endurance that customers demand.

- At the Navistar Proving Grounds in Indiana, the HX Series was subjected to accelerated life testing, which simulates 10 years of wear and tear and vibration in extreme duty cycles.

- Vehicles underwent staggered bumps testing, which generated torsional twist in the chassis, to ensure suspension components were stabilized and equalized.

- Each model was also subjected to severe duty ditch event, in which a fully loaded vehicle is run through four ditch events that are 12" in depth.

For more information on the HX Series or to locate a dealer, visit http://www.internationaltrucks.com/trucks/trucks/series/hxseries/.

Press release - http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/international-truck-launches-hx-series-300211705.html

High resolution image (HX620) - http://blogsdir.cms.rrcdn.com/8/files/2016/02/Lead-shot-International.jpg

HX Series Brochure - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/hx/HX-Series-Brochure.pdf

HX515 Spec Card - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/hx/HX-SpecSheet-515-03.pdf

HX520 Spec Card - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/hx/HX-SpecSheet-520-03.pdf

HX615 Spec Card - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/hx/HX-SpecSheet-615-03.pdf

HX620 Spec Card - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/hx/HX-SpecSheet-620-03.pdf

 

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[Red Horse]

Pix only available to journalists-and they are not on Navistsrs website at this point. write up sounds good-

[DailyDiesel]

I haven't heard much squawking about the N-Series engines. Hopefully the corner has been turned on the Maxxforce era.

[DailyDiesel]

Some photos here, I don't like this new style of promo photos where you can hardly tell if it's a real photo or some computer generated stuff.

http://www.ttnews.com/articles/basetemplate.aspx?storyid=40738

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Navistar launches new HX Series

Fleet Owner / February 1, 2016

Aims to “recapture” Class 8 vocational market share

The International HX Series is a new line of Class 8 vocational trucks being introduced by Navistar at the World of Concrete show in Las Vegas this week – a truck that will replace is PayStar model and that represents the first “all-new” vehicle introduced by the International Truck division of Navistar since 2010, said Troy Clarke, Navistar’s president and CEO, in a statement.

“The launch of the HX Series is an opportunity for International to recapture a leading position in the vocational market – a segment we previously led,” he explained. “The launch of the HX Series underscores our commitment to innovation, our dedication to uptime and our position as a leader within the industry.”

“The design of our new HX Series is based on in-depth discussions with leading users of severe service applications,” added Bill Kozek, Navistar’s president of truck and parts.

Four HX Series models will be offered, with both set-forward and set-back front axle models in either short or long hood, depending on the application. Three models were unveiled at World of Concrete:

- The HX515 is a 115in. bumper to back of cab (BBC) set-forward axle straight truck with primary vocations including concrete mixer, construction dump, refuse/roll-off and crane.

- The HX615 is a 115-in. BBC set-back axle truck or tractor with primary vocations including construction dump, concrete mixer, platform stake/crane and refuse/roll-off.

- The HX620 is a 120-in. BBC set-forward axle truck or tractor with primary vocations including heavy haul tractor, construction dump and platform stake/crane.

- The fourth model, the HX520, is a 120-in. BBC set-forward axle truck or tractor with primary vocations including heavy haul tractor, construction dump and platform stake/crane. It will be formally unveiled at Truck World in Toronto in April.

The HX515 and the HX615 models are powered by Navistar N13 engines, while the HX520 and HX620 models offer the Cummins ISX15 engine, Navistar said.

The company added that it’s taking orders for the new HX line immediately, with the first vehicles expected to be delivered this spring.

Photo gallery - http://fleetowner.com/equipment/international-hx-series-gets-vegas-sendoff#slide-3-field_images-182731

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International Announces HX Vocational Series

Heavy Duty Trucking / February 1, 2016

International Truck Monday launched its HX Series, a line of Class 8 vocational trucks and tractors designed for the severe service industry. It’s the first new vehicle introduced by International since 2010, executives said.

The HX, for Heavy eXtreme, includes four models, with set-forward and setback steer axles and long and medium-length hoods. HX replaces the PayStar, on which it’s based.

“The launch of the HX Series is an opportunity for International to recapture a leading position in the vocational market – a segment we previously led,” said Troy Clarke, president and CEO of Navistar.

The new series is being unveiled at 1 p.m. Pacific Time Monday at the World of Concrete show in Las Vegas. The show formally opens Tuesday.

International is taking orders for this vehicle immediately. The first vehicles will be delivered this spring. The four models include:

- HX515, a 115-inch bumper-to-back of cab straight truck with a set-forward steer axle. Its primary vocations including concrete mixer, construction dump, refuse/roll-off and crane carrier.

- HX615, also with a 115-inch BBC, with a set-back steer axle, available as a truck and tractor. It will serve similar vocations plus construction dump and platform.

- HX520, is a 120" BBC Set-forward Axle Truck or Tractor with primary vocations including heavy haul tractor, construction dump and platform stake/crane.

- HX620, with a 120-inch BBC and set-back axle, also available as a truck or tractor. It can be built as a heavy haul tractor, construction dump, platform stake, crane carrier.

The HX515 and the HX615 models are powered by Navistar N13 diesels, while the HX520 and HX620 models get the Cummins ISX15. Executives said all models were designed for maximum strength and durability, driver productivity, bold styling and superior uptime.

“The HX Series combines aggressive styling, unstoppable capability and driver-centric features to appeal to vocational truck owners in a whole new way,” said Denny Mooney, senior vice president, Navistar global product development, saying it was designed with the driver in mind.

A sloped hood gives excellent forward visibility, he said, while a 40-degree front wheel cut makes for good maneuverability. The frame is huck-bolted together, and available 12.5- by 0.5-inch main rails are rated at 3.5 million resistance-bending moment at 13% less weight than a 10-inch-high rail, allowing room for a heavier load.

“The design of our new HX Series is based on in-depth discussions with leading users of severe service applications,” said Bill Kozek, president, truck and parts, for Navistar. “Each of the four models in the series has been engineered to deliver unmatched performance for the most punishing jobs, while making operators more productive.”

The HX series underwent rigorous testing at Navistar’s proving grounds in northern Indiana. HXs are now available for ordering and first models will be delivered in April.

International dealers have more information, which is also available here.

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[kscarbel2]

Unlike the Tonka-inspired styling of the Kenworth T880 and T470, and Peterbilt 567 and 348, with the cheap new shared cab (purposed to restore Paccar's margins), the HX615 and HX620 are actually good looking construction trucks. And, the HX515 is considerably more attractive than its cousin, the CAT CT681.

I'm forced to mention, the Peterbilt 367 is the last traditionally designed vocational truck on the market, and it's a looker.

[kscarbel2]

I haven't heard much squawking about the N-Series engines. Hopefully the corner has been turned on the Maxxforce era.

The 12.4-liter N13 is the MAN D26 (D2676) built under license in Huntsville, Alabama. Since revising it from a "massive EGR" design to SCR, they renamed it N13.

Navistar apparently discontinued production of the 10.5-liter MAN D20 (D2066). With the N10 up to 350hp, and the N13 now starting from 365hp (up to 475hp), Navistar reduced their annual licensee costs to MAN. The MAN engines are extremely good, proven the world over.

Navistar engine portfolio - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/trucks/engines/

N9 & N10 Spec card - http://psndealer.com/dealersite/images/tricotruck/n9_n10_speccard.pdf

N13 Spec card - http://www.internationaltrucks.com/vgn-ext-templating/itrucks/assets/pdf/N13_SpecCard.pdf

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International debuts HX Series vocational trucks

Truck News / February 1, 2016

International PayStar replaced with more modern, higher-end HX Series

With a Vegas-worthy production, International Trucks today showed for the first time its new HX Series vocational trucks.

The reveal came in advance of World of Concrete and starred a truck that Bill Kozek, president, truck and parts with Navistar, said will return International to the front of the pack in the vocational truck segment.

“The HX will be a catalyst for International to regain leadership in the premium vocational market segment where we historically had lead,” Kozek said. “When I came here, one of the first discussions was about how we needed a vehicle like the HX to compete and to win in the construction, heavy-haul and mixer segments again. Today, we see the results of several years of hard work come to life.”

The HX represents International’s first new model since 2010 when it introduced the TerraStar Class 4/5 truck. Four HX Series models will be available: the HX515, a 115-inch BBC set-forward axle straight truck; a HX615, a 115-inch BBC set-back axle truck or tractor; the HX620, a 120-inch BBC set-forward axle truck or tractor; and a fourth model, the HX520, which will debut at Truck World in Toronto in April. The HX520 will be a 120-inch BBC set-forward truck or tractor intended for heavy applications and the likely best-seller among HX models in Canada, which is why International chose to launch it there.

The 515 and 615 will be powered by Navistar’s N13 engine while the HX520 and HX620 will get Cummins ISX15 power.

The front end of the new truck is curvier than the PayStar it replaces, and it also boasts a more stylish interior. And it was introduced to customers and dealers in style, too. A newscast cut into the presentation on large TV monitors to break the story of an International truck that had been commandeered by a fleeing Elvis impersonator who had robbed a local casino.

A police chase ensued, and ended in a yard within sight of the Strip, where customers and dealers were gathered. After some stunt driving at the launch site, Elvis was arrested by a heroic cop, who turned out to be none other than Denny Mooney, Navistar’s senior vice-president, global product development.

Only in Vegas.

“Of course we couldn’t pass up introducing our new truck in an over the top way,” Mooney said. “It’s Vegas – they wrote the book on being over the top.”

Three HX trucks were presented for ride-and-drive opportunities. A lap around the short makeshift off-road course revealed a truck that rides well, turns tight and features a high-end, comfortable interior.

“At its core, the HX represents the ultimate in endurance; a truck designed to tackle the most punishing loads and to run long and run hard and to keep the operator comfortable when he’s doing his job,” Mooney explained.

International said the truck was designed around four principle attributes: strength and durability; driver productivity; style; and uptime. The HX Series can trace its roots to a former joint venture between Navistar and Caterpillar. Signs of that former partnership are most prominent in the interior. Soft-to-the-touch surface areas, snappy, solid rocker switches and a center console that angles toward the driver and provides easy access to controls are among the similarities.

Outside, the truck features stylish halogen headlights with a distinctive LED brow. The hood slopes and tapers in to provide greater forward visibility than the PayStar. A raised sightline down the centre of the hood helps drivers orient themselves. Mooney said the HX offers the best forward visibility in the segment as well as a larger rear window for rearward visibility.

The wheels cut 40 degrees for a tight turning radius.

The truck was also built to be lighter. A three-piece Metton hood is lighter than fiberglass, the cab is aluminum and the 12.5-inch frame rails offer all the strength of double 10-inch frames, but at less overall weight, International claims. The truck also boasts the industry’s strongest tow pin, rated at 150,000 lbs for extreme recoveries. The truck I drove had classic-styled external air cleaners, an option on the longer BBC models.

Mooney said designers were challenged to beat the truck up during the product validation process.

“As part of the product development process and validation testing, the HX series was tested extensively in our labs in Melrose Park, Ill. and our new proving grounds in Indiana,” Mooney said. “We ran accelerated life testing on the shaker – this simulates 10 years of wear and tear of a severe-service truck in extremely difficult duty cycles. We also put it through the most rigorous portions of our proving grounds. The bottom line is, I told our test engineering team to take this truck and punish it. I wanted them to try to break it – after all, we know how our customers use these trucks. When things broke, we redesigned them so they didn’t break and when things came loose, we found ways to make them stronger.”

Nice touches such as LED lighting inside the cab, a tilting, telescoping steering column, air-conditioning, power locks and power windows are all standard. The smooth ride is attributed in part to a new DriverFirst cab air suspension with 52-inch springs.

Jeff Sass, senior vice-president with Navistar, said International bucked the trend towards vertical integration, opting instead for an approach he dubbed as “open integration.”

“This is where we work seamlessly with leading component manufacturers and integrate leading technologies into our trucks,” he said.

The launch of the HX seems to have given International Trucks back some of its swagger.

“It has been a few years since we were able to say we had the product able to compete and win in the severe-service market,” Sass said. “With the HX Series, we are now able to complete our offerings in the construction and concrete markets. This will now give International Truck the most comprehensive severe-service lineup in the industry.”

Sass said 132 HX trucks have already been ordered, even though the truck has just now been shown to the public.

Kozek said the launch represents a great step forward in International’s resurgence.

“As I reflect on where we are today, I’m incredibly proud of where we are as a company,” he said. “Today we’re building the best trucks we’ve ever built; our quality metrics show it and more importantly, our customers recognize it and believe it.”

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Analysis: Digging Deeper into Navistar's New International HX

Heavy Duty Trucking / February 2, 2016

A mock police chase lent humor to Navistar’s unveiling Monday of its new International HX series of vocational trucks, as sirens, flashing red-and-blue lights, clouds of dust, and fire and smoke livened up a construction site in Las Vegas, in conjunction with the World of Concrete trade show.

The object of the Hollywood-style pursuit was an HX620 dump truck supposedly stolen from outside a downtown casino. “Robbers” dressed as Elvis impersonators used the truck as a getaway car, racing down I-15 – the chase photographed from above, like an O.J. event on a Los Angeles freeway – then onto a large gravelly lot on Sin City’s near west side.

Play-acting police cornered the truck in front of bleachers filled with laughing dealers, customers and trade-press reporters. The cops collared the crooks and stashed them in patrol cars, and the drama wrapped up.

It was funny, but the HX represents serious business for Navistar.

“2016 will be International’s year,” declared Bill Kozek, president of Navistar Truck and Parts, as he delivered a normal presentation. The HX trucks and tractors come in four models, and will be part of the company’s climb back from its product and sales woes. He reiterated Navistar’s current theme of “uptime,” facilitated by production of high-quality trucks and reinvigorated maintenance services.

The HX is a premium vocational model, something International Truck and its dealers haven’t had for several years because they lacked a big-bore diesel that the segment requires, executives have said. The big engine disappeared when previous management dropped Cummins power and went exclusively with the ill-fated MaxxForce engine series, which also caused Navistar to lose much of the vocational business that it once dominated.

The latest PayStar, on which the HX is based, came only with a 12.4-liter MaxxForce engine (now updated to the N13 that the company says is more reliable).

But 15-liter power is needed to fully compete in the premium vocational market, company executives and dealers have said. In addition, the PayStar was available only with a setback steer axle.

That’s all changed with the HX series. It’s available with the Cummins ISX15 as well as the Navistar N13, both using Cummins-supplied exhaust-aftertreatment equipment. And an available set-forward steer axle makes the HX usable in certain applications in bridge-formula states that reward longer wheelbases with higher legal gross vehicle weights.

HX trucks have Navistar’s Diamond Logic multiplex wiring system, which PayStars never had, said a dealer sales representative in the audience. This will speed hooking up and controlling specialty bodies such as mixer drums. And Kozek said the HX cab’s rear is suspended on twin air bags designed to filter out shocks commonly encountered while running over rough terrain and broken pavement.

Lines of guests waited to drive a few HX models at the event; that limited this reporter to a very brief spin around the dirt lot with an HX615 mixer truck. That loop suggested that the new model is comfortable and smooth riding, but a much longer experience will be needed to fully gauge the truck’s driver-oriented attributes.

While the N13 diesel, aluminum cab and some frame components carry over from the PayStar, the HX is a bona fide new model by virtue of a boldly styled three-piece plastic-composite Metton hood and grille, and a redesigned cab interior.

Some features inside the cab are taken from the Cat Truck, which Navistar is building for Caterpillar through the end of this year. Most noticeable is a single large combination speedometer and tachometer that was exclusive to the Cat starting in 2011.

That’s part of the “shared intellectual property” that Navistar gained from the Cat Truck project, executives said, so the interior design is fair game for their new HX. As previously announced, Caterpillar this year will take over assembly of Cat Trucks and Navistar will phase them out. In the meantime, the two products will be very similar, but HXs will cost less than comparably equipped Cats, which for now will lack 15-liter power.

The HX series has gone into production at Navistar’s plant in Saltillo, Mexico, where Cat Trucks have been assembled. Cat will build its trucks at a plant in southern Texas.

Navistar also continues to make and sell the lower-cost WorkStar series for the vocational market, which uses steel cabs with shorter hoods. The WorkStar, which will get a new alpha-numeric designation later this year, primarily serves the municipal market, while the HX will go after retail vocational customers who want lighter weight and, in some cases, premium trim, executives said.

International HX trucks will use popular vendor-supplied powertrain and chassis components from Cummins, Eaton and Allison, among others, in what Kozek called “open integration.” This is counter to an industry trend of is sometimes called "vertical integration," in which competitors have introduced and encouraged the sale of their own components.

Turning to suppliers such as Cummins helped Navistar in its recovery from financial and product problems following a failed EPA-2010 emissions strategy, and Kozek called Cummins a "great partner." The truck builder is working hard to regain its reputation by building quality products and focusing on reliability and service advancements, some using telematics and electronics. Since new management took over, executives have appeared enthusiastic about their products and improved corporate performance.

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[Wobblin-Goblin]

Those are some nice looking trucks, especially the dump truck models.

[kscarbel2]

Those are some nice looking trucks, especially the dump truck models.

They are good looking trucks. With the switch over to the CAT-themed instrumentation, I will miss the classically themed old-school instrumentation of the PayStar. It had an air of quality. I'd like to see the PayStar interior remain as an HX factory option.

[Wobblin-Goblin]

They are good looking trucks. With the switch over to the CAT-themed instrumentation, I will miss the classically themed old-school instrumentation of the PayStar. It had an air of quality. I'd like to see the PayStar interior remain as an HX factory option.

After seeing the interior, I agree. The HX (CAT) interior looks goofy and way too angular.

The exterior, however, is pretty darn good looking.

[james j neiweem]

Maybee Navistar can make some in roads on Paccar.

[DailyDiesel]

Competition is always good for the industry.

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International receives orders for more than 300 HX Series trucks

Truck News / February 15, 2016

International Truck says its new HX Series vocational truck, introduced earlier this month at World of Concrete, has been well received.

It just received it largest order yet for the truck, with 15 HX620 dump trucks going to RLJ Thompson Trucking in Concord, Va. The trucks are powered by the Cummins ISX15 engine.

“We already have orders for more than 300 trucks and that number is growing by the day,” said Jeff Sass, senior vice0president, sales and marketing, Navistar. “This interest is fuelled by how we designed our new HX Series based on in-depth discussions with leading Class 8 vocational customers. Each of the four models in the series has been engineered to deliver unmatched performance for the most punishing jobsites while also making operators more productive.”

“We ordered the new HX Series trucks because we are excited about the bold design that offers a sturdy, yet lightweight truck powered by the ISX engine,” added Ricky Thompson, president of RLJ Thompson Trucking.

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Hendrickson Aero Clad Bumper Available on HX Series

Heavy Duty Trucking / February 17, 2016

Hendrickson Bumper and Trim’s “Aero Clad” stainless steel clad aluminum bumpers are available for the new International HX Series of vocational trucks.

Aero Clad is optional for both set back axle and set forward axle models.

The bumpers are produced using a material and manufacturing process that gives them a mirror bright finish for styling, while still meeting functional design and durability requirements for heavy-duty truck applications, according to the company.

The Aero Clad bumpers are also designed to be lightweight, saving 52 pounds compared to the standard painted steel bumper that is also supplied by Hendrickson. The weight savings improve fuel economy, and by not using chrome plating, the bumpers are also more environmentally friendly, the company says.

The bumper features a bright stainless steel finish and luster and is 10 times thicker than chrome plating, according to Hendrickson.

Aero Clad has a limited 5-year warranty. Aftermarket options will become available later in the year.

Photo - http://www.truckinginfo.com/news/story/2016/02/hendrickson-aero-clad-bumper-available-on-hx-series.aspx

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ForConstructionPros  /  April 11, 2017

 

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Quality Concrete in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia takes delivery of two new international HX Series twin-steer 8x4 mixers.

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[james j neiweem]

Can't say I like the Grill but I guess they have to distinguish themselves from Paccar though.

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[RoadwayR]

The HX is earning a good reputation.  

[Red Horse]

On 7/24/2020 at 8:37 AM, james j neiweem said:

Can't say I like the Grill but I guess they have to distinguish themselves from Paccar though.

Agree on the grill.  I miss the old days when a set of shutters was the "grill".  When the HX first came out I thought there was a version that had like a cross hatched  "wire" grill-looked good IMO-but lately  seems like they all have the Seeburg Jukebox grill.  Then again, nice that Seeburg could stay in business building something😎

[james j neiweem]

I used to love the old White 9000's and Mack B-61's with the horizontal external shutters. Pete needle noses also