gearhead204 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 11/25/2016 at 8:23 AM, hurstscrambler said: Thanks Paul, I got some components off the engine and was finally able to pull the trans off the engine. I have some questions that I hope you guys can help with. First off the the leak the the rear of the engine appears to be the pilot bearing seal had failed and been over-greased. I'm fairly certain the clutch is the one the truck was born with. The input shaft has no wear that I can see. I included some pictures. Where should I be going for these parts, the local truck center doesn't seem to want to help me much. How difficult is changing the input shaft seal? I know it looks like a mess, but it really does seem like heavy grease, not gear oil or engine oil. Andy Never messed with the trans that you have but I would double check the parts book for it, as I have never seen a clutch brake work against the front of the trans like this one is. Normally there is another cover that the brake rides against. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted November 28, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2016 I m gonna call tomorrow about that shield, I also think something is missing. My buddy who is a truck mechanic looked over everything. It was clear that all the grease was from over-greaseing the TO bearing and shaft pivot points. The input shaft is dry and the trans side of the clutch brake was dry. The clutch is dry and the engine side of the bellhousing was as well. So in other words, a good cleaning and a new 2 piece clutch brake and this thing is going back together. I'm not made of money, and if the trans need to come back out for future repair, so be it. I still thank you guy for any advice and guidance, it is appreciated even if I go in a different direction. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted November 28, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2016 Got the engine all cleaned up and painted. Still needs a couple more coats of paint. I also got most of the bolt on engine stuff cleaned up, but they still need paint. Andy 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Andy, what make/model is the trans. you have there? Is there a data plate on it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 It is a spicer 8552-A. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 that is a pull type clutch . the trans has the proper front bearing retainer plate. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Ok, thanks for checking into that for me. I just found out today that the old cummins paint is still available, I was initially told otherwise and just got the newer color. I got a few more coats of paint on the engine, this time the correct color. It's looking pretty good, hopefully I can figure out how to post pics again soon. Andy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 not the engine you have but the color is right Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 This one was actually a darker red color from the factory, not sure if it was an IH thing or what? The "old" cummins red looks to be a very close match to what was on the engine, I assume it is as correct as it gets. The red/orange in the picture is the newer cummins "APEX" red. Andy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 What I posted is the original Cummins color. Red was international`s choice. I should say Cummins started using red sometime in the late 80's. The engine in the pic. is from the early 60's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 13 hours ago, hurstscrambler said: This one was actually a darker red color from the factory, not sure if it was an IH thing or what? The "old" cummins red looks to be a very close match to what was on the engine, I assume it is as correct as it gets. The red/orange in the picture is the newer cummins "APEX" red. Andy From the time of manufacturers using their colors on engines. My I.H. is a Metallic Blue and one of my Autocars was white the other Autocar has a Chalmers engine and it is Purple. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 hours ago, 41chevy said: From the time of manufacturers using their colors on engines. My I.H. is a Metallic Blue and one of my Autocars was white the other Autocar has a Chalmers engine and it is Purple. yes the big al as it was called came in grape purple only 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, carlotpilot said: yes the big al as it was called came in grape purple only Every time that I mention Big Al, I get pestered to sell it to an needy Allis Chalmers club member. Signs say not for sale http:// Edited November 30, 2016 by 41chevy Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 my only experience with that motor I drove a friends truck from el paso to dallas one time co white Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 hours ago, carlotpilot said: my only experience with that motor I drove a friends truck from el paso to dallas one time co white The 25000 series had crank main journal problems, I got a 25000 reman crank a spare block and main caps from a 21000. Ron Knaar had a 1974 Big Al /Freighliner for sale for 75 grand last June, sold quick too. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 If you go to the Just Old Trucks site the moderator Eddy Lucast is a distributor for KBS products. They have the factory mix for Cummins Old Gold and other engine colors. He is good to deal with. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-353842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted April 27, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2017 Hey guys, I'm back on this project. I worked on it through the end of December then moth-balled the whole thing for a while. I ended up gutting my kitchen, living room and bathroom, but it is almost 100% back together so on to some more enjoyable projects. I began rust repair on the cab, hopefully on the next month or two I can get some paint on that. I also hope I can get you guys to give me some information on the radiator/shutter assembly. I'm gonna try to get that apart and take some pictures then maybe I can figure out the next move with that. Here is a pic from when I stopped working on it late last December. Thanks, Andy 1 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-368480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Carlot, only a relative few of the ACs were made,how did they compare to similar rated Cummins,Cat,Mack,etc in performance,economy? I've never driven one! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-368668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 4/29/2017 at 8:13 PM, BillyT said: Carloin my 69t, only a relative few of the ACs were made,how did they compare to similar rated Cummins,Cat,Mack,etc in performance,economy? I've never driven one! The AC in my 70 Autocar is 450 h.p. at about 2000 rpm, way ahead of anything around then. Broke cranks like the early Cummins but AC didn't really stand behind them.. Biggest draw back was no dealer network. Need parts or service you had to go the an AC Heavy equipment dealer. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-369456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted September 8, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 Okay guys, I'm not sure if anyone here really cares about being updated on this project, but here goes. So, I had an incredible summer with work, my job kept me working many hours and away from home. Beyond that I was able to get almost all of the metal work done on the cab, but with little time I was forced to farm the body and paint job out. This was a good thing, as they finished the job in a month, and it came out a thousand times better than if I would have attempted it. Andy 11 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Going to be a shiny Binder! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Wow!! It came out excellent! The White is a cool touch too. Paul 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted September 8, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 I also got the radiator re-cored as well as the heater core, unfortunately they both really needed it. Then I had to press in new bushings to every piviot point in the shutter assembly. What a pain in the ass that was. Sal and Tim at Seabrook truck were able to track down a new actuator and shutter-stat for me as well. So the shutters will once again be functional, I just need to sand them and get some top coat laid down. Currently, I'm trying to get the door glass, weather stripping and vent windows sorted out, but finding the correct seals appears to be impossible. Repop parts can be such a disappointment sometimes. The bracket is for the windshield visor which my friend is doing the body work to. All I had to do is give up half my garage for 10 months and I get free body work on a 1'x5' piece of metal, but the good news is that his 55 is coming along very well. Andy 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
66dc75 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The truck is going to look awesome Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Thanks guys, everybody has been telling me the white was a bad move. I'm trying to match the grey trucks build as much as possible, and that truck was originally Alpine White, the grey exterior was done later. So white it is, I admit it is brighter than I was expecting. I'm very happy with what is happening, but I wish it was going a little faster, and costing alot less $. Does anyone have a good source for getting pot metal emblems restored? Andy Edited September 8, 2017 by hurstscrambler Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/44928-1969-international-f210d/page/8/#findComment-379181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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