64C85 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Try contacting these guys. They are quite active and my be able to help you out. http://www.texasfiremuseum.org/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-335827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, 64C85 said: Try contacting these guys. They are quite active and my be able to help you out. http://www.texasfiremuseum.org/ A DMV search turned up nothing in Texas, I'm working on other states now. I have found some more good news as to where this may have gone. It was sold and a new title issued in Missouri. A company by the name of Firemaster purchased it and re-titled it 12-17-1984 Edited June 7, 2016 by Firebuster Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-335828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack58B42 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It's getting interesting - I hope you find it, and can't wait to see how far the search takes you. It was certainly a beautiful rig, and it would be sad to find out that doesn't exist any more.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-335848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 I've found out today that most all states DMV offices are legally permitted to tell you if a vehicle is titled within that state. They are not allowed to tell you who the owner is. If I can find the state I can find the owner. I've got 6 states so far that it isn't in. 44 to go. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-336056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Anybody know of Fire Master Fire Apparatus Inc. in Springfield, Missouri? They purchased this Mack from my volunteer department in 1984. They are still in business in Springfield and Eureka, Mo. They said they don't have records of who they bought from but they have records of who they sold to. I understand that but they said they can't do any check because they don't have a record of where a fire engine came from. I tried telling them I know where it came from and I want to know where it went to. They didn't get what I am looking for. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-336093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 But on a second phone call to a different person the results were a little better. I talked to someone that actually wanted to help. He asked me to send all the information I had so in an email he received everything I had. Then I dangled the carrot on a stick to this salesman. I asked if he would be interested in assisting us with the sale should he find it. I'm hoping the little green salesman light bulb in his head was turned on with the prospect of some $$$$ dangled his way. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-336101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Trip Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Please we are not hoarders but rather preservations whose sole intent is to keep old Mack Fire Apparatus from the scrap heap. SPAAMFAA and the many thousand members have been doing this for over 40 years. If this truck is alive and well and being shown Some Spaamfaa member will see it. Contact CANDY BENNETT at Spaamfaa as she is sect. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-336327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDNYTRUCKScom Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 if this truck were alive and being shown somewhere I would have given him the info, because I would have it. it is not. it was either scrapped or behind some departments firehouse out west and nobody has seen it outside of that town in 25 + years. hopefully his lead with firemaster will yield some results. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-337664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Another possibility is that someone made it into a tractor and while it is still titled and registered as a B85F the owner isn't interested in the fire history. I have seen many B model tractors at shows with B85 emblems on the hood. Hopefully not but this would have been a prime candidate with the coupe cab. Good luck. Mike. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-337681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 It was re-titled to Fire Master Fire Apparatus Inc. on 12-17-1984 in Springfield, Missouri. They still have the records but say they have no way to know where it came from. Hell, I know where it came from and have the serial number. Since it is still in their name that means it was sold outside of Missouri. In the Pre-911 days and before the computer age one state evidently didn't contact the previous state when titling a vehicle that comes into the new state. I was told because of the postal costs was why. I've practically begged them to search to see where it was sold to. They would have to have records of their sales, which they say they do, so look after 12-17-1984 until you see a Mack engine with the VIN B85F1079 to see who bought it. Sounds simple to me. Next step is to find one of their salesmen that wants to make some quick cash and offer a finders fee. A couple hundred bucks may perk someone . I even asked if the found it if they would broker a deal to sell it to us. That was a no go also. I'm with FDNYTRUCKScom that it is probably sitting behind someones station or in a field, but hopefully not scrapped. It was in awesome shape when the borough sold it in 1984. I would also think with all the photo bombing and posting in various forums, along FaceBook pages someone would have recognized it. There are several features that made it stand out and the big one was the booster reel was just in front of the rear step in what would have been the bottom compartment. I've been calling the DMV offices in each state. That is a breeze in some and others take forever. I'm 26 states into all 50. But some states only go back so many years if a vehicle hasn't had the plates renewed in x number of years. 7, 10, 11, and 15 years in different states. Some go into an archive database. Illinois does this but it takes an act of congress and a court order to get any information. I'll just keep digging in the mean time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grayhair Posted July 6, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Old Macks has a 1955 unit for sale that resembles yours. http://www.oldmacks.com/index. There are quite a few photos on the website and the text says it is from the Midwest. Maybe it is the one you are looking for, you could call and ask. Edited July 6, 2016 by grayhair 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grayhair Posted July 6, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2016 I exchanged emails with Dennis Meehan at Old Macks and he confirms the unit he has is indeed the long lost one you are looking for. It is for sale. Contact him directly at 518-622-8164. You are welcome. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDNYTRUCKScom Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 holy crap! thats it! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Edited to show that is it. Edited July 7, 2016 by Firebuster Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, Firebuster said: Side by side pictures sure don't add up. Now I'm scratching my head. It is the one before the Floral Park unit #OM461 1955 B85F LICK CREEK #1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebuster Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) That didn't come up on my phone. My power is out here. I'll try that when it comes back on. OK! Power is back. That's it! Talked to Dennis and will email him tomorrow. WooHoooo! Edited July 7, 2016 by Firebuster 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 7 hours ago, grayhair said: I exchanged emails with Dennis Meehan at Old Macks and he confirms the unit he has is indeed the long lost one you are looking for. It is for sale. Contact him directly at 518-622-8164. You are welcome. Nicely done!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 the lost is found Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack58B42 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Awesome! Hope you'll be working out a deal on it! I just bought my B85 from Dennis, and I checked this one out before I settled on the one I ended up taking..... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Well.......???? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 THATS A GREAT ENDING FOR YOUR MACK ......OR SHOULD I SAY A BEGINNING Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Congratulations Firebuster on finding your truck!! And nice job grayhair for seeing it on Oldmacks.com Hippy 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-338874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Y Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-340624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketturbo Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Great ending.good luck with your truck.Dennis is a gentleman. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-340698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1958 F.W.D. Posted August 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Hey Dan Waldron.... I just saw your letter to the editor in the Sept/Oct issue of Vintage Firetruck. And I quote:"Since we have no serial number, the Mack Trucks Historical Museum hasnt been able to help us and stronly hinted they wanted money to even talk to us." The Mack Trucks Museum advertises (clearly stated on their website) that they will attempt to fulfill archival requests with copies of any documents at no cost....due to the number of requests and limited staff, requests are usually fulfilled in 6-8 weeks. An appropriate donation is appreciated. Do you know a thing about the Mack Museum operation? Are you aware that the staff is mostly volunteer? Do you know that many files are microfiche and need to be manually pulled and viewed for content? Do you know that not only will you get copies of your file, but many times you will get an engine and chassis manual as well? Do you know that the cost to ship these materials to you via UPS is about $20.00?? That being said, given that you had no serial number......what did you expect the VOLUNTEER staff there to do....Look through EVERY file for 1955 and 56 B models? That was a pretty cheap shot and I think you owe the Museum staff an apology, And a check. Edited August 29, 2016 by 1958 F.W.D. 4 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45044-looking-for-a-mack-fire-engine/page/2/#findComment-343571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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