razorback11 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Ladies and Gents. I finally started my END711engine after tearing it down and putting it back together. However, I need to ask...I have the large oil filter that hangs off the drivers side of the block...you know the one...bout the size of a small trash can and holds about 3 gallons of oil. Well I have tried everything I know to get it to stop leaking oil around the seam where the bottom of the can meets the top. I have drained it twice, cleaned it up mounted the O-ring (which looks good...don't think it needs replacing. Last time I put the O-ring on with RTV. I tighten the big round clamp as tight as it will go but every time I turn the engine over and oil pressure builds oil come spraying out of that seam. I am out of ideas at the moment. before I drain the oil back out for another try...thought I would ask the experts. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The clamp could be spread open and not pulling the top and bottom together. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddeere Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Do not know if it would make a difference could the oil lines be switched ? Supply and drain lines. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The pressure should be the same, difference would be where the oil goes in the filter, inside through to the outside or the other way. There is a small bleeder on the top can to purge air out, could possibly have some effect on your leak too. Also the O rings as I remember are D shaped and fit only one correct way. I THINK Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback11 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 OK, I will drain the oil back down below the seam, clean everything up again, turn the O-ring over, and put it back together. I will attempt to open the vent a bit to see if that helps out any. I will keep you all posted as to how it comes out. Thanks much. Razorback11 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Its been many years since I have had one apart but I remember it is a special o/ring. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Pretty sure the o ring is a Wix 15114 or Baldwin G157 if you need to get a new one. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback11 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 That is good information! Wouldn't hurt to order a new one. Thanks Much. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Which oil filter, 750 Luberfiner or WGB oil clarifier(full flow/bypass)? Luberfiner has two small lines small bleeder on very top. WGB oil clarifier has two large lines #16 and one small #8(?) line. and a large bleeder off to the side on the top. Different filters different rings. One for the luberfiner is sort of "D" shaped one for full flow/bypass is a large "O" ring. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 As Jim said above the Baldwin # for the full flow/bypass ring is G157. From my memory the Luberfiner took a different ring #G309B Ron Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Gasket Dimensions are: OD - 9.025 ID - 8.475 Thickness - 0.275 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback11 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Mine is the rather large canister and has Two large oil lines that go out of the bottom and send and receive oil to and from the top and end of the oil cooler. I have a smaller line that exits the bottom of the filter can and runs back in to the block. I do not have any lines in to of the canister....just a big filler hole. When I bought the truck, it was running and the filter canister was not leaking. I have cleaned up the canister, painted it, switched out the filter with a new one (same number) attempted to use the same O-ring and I cranked down on the clamp until it won't move any more...as soon as the oil pressure builds...oil starts spraying out of the seam. On the positive side, I have very good oil pressure and it is making it to the top of the engine.. that is always a worry. On the negative, can't get the Oil Filter canister to play ball. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just tossing out thoughts- you painted it.......new paint isn't messing up the seal is it??? 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback11 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Only painted the outside of the canister. Shouldn't have effected the seal at all. I drained the oil out of the canister this evening. I will crack it open when it quits raining around here (Yorktown, VA,) and try to get the filter # off it.. Truck is on Jack stands in a large carport-like structure. Rain usually stays off of it but don't want to open up critical parts when it is raining just in case. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Baldwin filter # P706-m . I had trouble getting my filter to seal it did seal after a few try's of tapping on the clamp and turning the nut a little at a time . I though of wrapping the o ring with Teflon tape . the clamp must spread over time with over tightening . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Baldwin # G157 "O" ring Ron Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Blaylock Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Sadly like everything else times have changed back in the day when I was a kid dad had two Internationals with driptriots with luberfiners every new filter included a new o-ring so I would try a new one and bleed the air out Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45118-oil-filter-problem/#findComment-332983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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