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[kscarbel2]

Uniformed police arrived within minutes....told not to pursue Orlando shooter.....15 or 20 halt until SWAT arrived

The Washington Post  /  June 21, 2016

After an initial burst of fire between Omar Mateen and a security guard at the Pulse nightclub, a group of five to six police officers arrived on the scene within minutes, broke through a large glass window and entered the club as the killing of 49 people was underway inside.

Belle Isle police officer Brandon Cornwell, 25, said the ad-hoc team spent the first seconds inside “trying to locate exactly where the shooter was — we kept hearing people scream and shots fired.”

Cornwell said they never saw Mateen; he said the shooter had vanished inside the dimly lit club as Cornwell and the other officers followed the sounds of screams and echoing gunfire to the bathroom area where they presumed the gunman was now holed up. They aimed their assault rifles toward that area as the sounds of gunfire stopped.

Then, they followed orders to hold their position for what he described as “15 or 20 minutes” until the SWAT team arrived.

Cornwell didn’t say if the officers spent that time inside the club, or were instructed to withdraw to the outside of the club before SWAT arrived, leaving Mateen time to move freely about the club. Cornwell declined to clarify this point.

He did not second-guess the decision.

“We just basically stayed there, waited for movement, and we just held our position until SWAT got there,” said Cornwell, 25, who never fired his weapon. “Once SWAT got there, they told us to retreat, that they’d take over because we were not really in tactical gear — we were just in our police uniforms.”

Cornwell and his fellow officers’ early standoff with the shooter — the second of three encounters between law enforcement and Mateen over more than three hours Sunday morning — is being scrutinized by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement’s Public Integrity Squad along with the other police encounters with the shooter.

Cornwell, a second-year police officer who served with the Army National Guard in Iraq, said he was helping with a traffic stop when he heard the call on his radio that shots had been fired at Pulse. He said he arrived “in 38 seconds.”

“It was a straight shot there and I hit every green light,” said Cornwell, who spoke with The Washington Post at Belle Isle’s City Hall in the presence of the Belle Isle police chief, who occasionally stopped him from offering too much detail.

Cornwell was one of the first seven or so police cars to arrive on the scene, where officers were getting out of their cars with their assault rifles, he said.

“Some ran towards the building, some stayed back with people running out,” he said. “There was tons of people running out of the club. I grabbed my assault rifle and ran toward the club. At this point the shooter is still actively shooting inside.”

Cornwell converged on the south side of the building near the main entrance with perhaps five other officers, all from the Orlando police department, which he referred to as OPD.

“There happens to be an OPD lieutenant commander who was there, and he says we’ve got to go in,” said Cornwell. “No one disagreed. One of the officers busted out one of those side windows” — it was approximately 10 feet tall — “and we just went in and went from there.”

He estimated that “no more than two minutes” had elapsed since they arrived, and they were now inside the club.

Cornwell said Mateen was nowhere to be seen. The club was dim — lit with a disco ball and colored lights — and quiet except for the sound of the shooter’s gunfire, screams and cries for help, Cornwell said.

“He was actively shooting,” he said. “I can’t say if he was targeting us. But he was still shooting in that location where he was at. There were bullet holes in the wall, so he had shot through the wall. But I couldn’t tell you if he was shooting at us.”

Cornwell and the other officers immediately began “clearing rooms” one by one — not knowing if there was more than one shooter — and trying to locate the source of the gunfire. The sound of the shots echoing all around the club made it difficult to tell exactly where it was coming from, he said. But fairly quickly — Cornwell said “within minutes” — officers located Mateen in the bathroom area.

At that point, he said, “we took up a tactical position by the bar standpoint in the middle of the club.” As he aimed his AR-15 assault rifle toward the bathroom door, he said, the shooting stopped. And it was then that the “15 or 20 minute” holding pattern began, he said.

Though Cornwell cannot recall exactly how he received his orders (?????) — whether it came via the radio or verbally in person — his clear understanding was that he and his fellow officers were to hold their position rather than attempt to go into the bathroom after the shooter.

Minutes passed as he kept aiming toward the bathroom, he said. He could hear people scream. There were people lying all over the floor of the club. He kept aiming, waiting for SWAT. More screams. He and the other officers held their position, focused on the bathroom, where he could see “some movement inside,” he said.

Asked whether he felt an urge to pursue the shooter at that point, Cornwell said, “I couldn’t tell you. I was following lieutenant’s command.”

At some point during the 15 to 20 minutes — it is unclear exactly when (?????) — Cornwell and the others in the group of first responders withdrew to the outside of the club, he said.

“We got word from higher up, and it was communicated to the OPD lieutenant that we needed to withdraw,” he said. “So we came back outside. And waited for SWAT. SWAT arrived. SWAT handled everything from there.”

 

[david wild]

Just like Iraq, don't shoot or you will be in trouble, count you ammo at the end of the day and don't be short, let the men on scene decide, I was lucky in Iraq we did not need permission to do anything, we did as we pleased but very few had that luxury and it got men killed, we can't even fight a war without being second guessed. What we need is a few Dirty Harry type cops and presto the bad players would think twice, but then some puke would get a hole in him and the Sharpton's of the world would be out again with there BS. You want to steal my lawn mower or shoot up a night club then you need and will die, yes that is right steal a mower and die, you know you don't belong there, you know your stealing and your on my property where you don't belong then you can die. Smoke that you limp libs.     

[mowerman]

We're all still waiting for that worthless bastard to nut up and worry about america

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[mowerman]

Still waiting for that worthless bastard to nut up and be a president bob

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[41chevy]

57 minutes ago, mowerman said:

Still waiting for that worthless bastard to nut up and be a president bob

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May be when he stops campaigning against Trump and the Mrs,2 daughters and Meryl Streep all get home from Liberia and Morocco they will all act Presidential instead of Kingly. . . NOT!

[mowerman]

Geeeeeesus criminy you would think this brain-dead pig would atleast try to make a good impression on the public.... on his way out the door wow Thiers some real colors ...folks

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[other dog]

On 6/14/2016 at 4:59 PM, tjc transport said:

unfortunatly i can not find it now, but i saw a graph yesterday with shooting deaths per president.

reagan was around 9

bush senior was around 11

clinton was 23

bush junior was around 13

obumper is over 300

and i still say all these shootings are committed by plants by the demoncratic party to advance their plan for total disarmament of the law abiding american people.

I think so too.

[kscarbel2]

‘They took too damn long’: Inside the police response to the Orlando shooting

The Washington Post  /  August 1, 2016

Within minutes of the attack, police entered Pulse nightclub and outnumbered Omar Mateen. It would be nearly three more hours before he was killed. The police department's chief defended the actions of officers.

When Omar Mateen finished pumping bullets into dozens of people sprawled on the dance floor inside the Pulse nightclub on June 12, he walked toward the bathrooms, where many patrons had hidden. It was just minutes after Orlando police were called about the gunfire, and law enforcement officers began descending on the club.

Four of them entered the building through one patio, while six others shot out a window to get inside. Among the 10 officers who went into Pulse, some had powerful military-style rifles and one had a shield. At least two had tactical experience.

Police fired at Mateen when he popped his head out of one of the bathrooms. The shooter was outgunned and outnumbered.

But then, police decided not to pursue him.

This account, based on interviews with law enforcement officials and witnesses, as well as public records, provides the most complete picture yet of the law enforcement response and Mateen’s movements inside the club on the night of the attack.

The new details raise questions about how police and fire agencies responded to what became the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history — and how the attack turned into a hostage standoff that lasted nearly three hours.

The decision not to follow Mateen into the bathroom proved critical. Because Mateen was not subdued or killed sooner, wounded victims remained trapped inside the bathroom for hours, pleading for the police to rescue them. Emergency medical personnel did not enter the club to treat victims, because it was deemed too dangerous. And during the final standoff, in which police initially failed to breach the club wall and struggled to make entry, Mateen apparently shot more people, according to witnesses.

At least five people who were alive in the bathrooms when the standoff began ultimately died at the club. Three of these people — Deonka Deidra Drayton, Eddie Justice and Alejandro Barrios Martinez — sent text messages from inside the club’s bathrooms and were later among the dead.

[Graphic: The lives lost in Orlando]

Witnesses in the women’s bathroom said Mateen killed at least three people during the final moments of the standoff, opening fire as SWAT officers were moving to breach the walls.

“They took too damn long for me,” said Tiara Parker, 21, who was inside the bathroom. “If they had moved faster, they would have gotten us out of there and everybody could have possibly lived.”

In a lengthy interview, Orlando Police Chief John Mina defended the actions of officers inside the club and the rationale for not ending the attack sooner.

The reason police did not pursue the shooter immediately, Mina said, was that Mateen stopped shooting after he entered the bathroom and he had hostages.

“He went from an active shooter to a barricaded gunman,” Mina said. “If he had continued shooting, our officers would have went in there.”

How Orlando police responded will be studied closely as other departments across the country try to prepare their officers for the next mass shooting.

The Justice Department, at the Orlando Police Department’s request, is reviewing the law enforcement response.

Similar reviews have been launched after other attacks at movie theaters, schools and government installations. The examination of how authorities responded to the Pulse shooting will join a grim catalogue of assessments that have sought to learn lessons from attacks in Aurora, Colo., at the Washington Navy Yard and at Virginia Tech.

In each of those mass shootings, officials found that they could do things better the next time.

“The highest priority is to eliminate the threat,” said Dan Oates, who was the police chief in Aurora when a gunman opened fire in a movie theater, killing 12 and injuring scores more. Oates declined to comment on the Orlando shooting and the response there. He added: “If the best information is the shooter is on the fourth floor, you get to the fourth floor. If you run into the bad guy, you better be ready to deal with it.”

Crucial minutes

The bloodshed at Pulse unfolded in a matter of minutes.

At 2:02 a.m., Mateen entered the club with his semiautomatic rifle at the ready and started shooting immediately, according to The Washington Post’s timeline constructed from interviews and public records.

He fired repeatedly in the main room of the club, then moved toward the back room, continuing to shoot. Clubgoers went running for hiding places and exits, jumping over the bodies of those already hit. Some played dead.

Mateen was able to move around the space quickly. Not including an outdoor patio, the club covers less than 5,000 square feet.

Moments later, he returned to the main room. He fired at wounded people lying on the dance floor and reloaded his magazine.

Then he returned to the back room, shooting victims again. For a third time, he walked into the main room, changing magazines and firing at more people.

At 2:07 a.m., he headed to the restrooms and continued to shoot.

Angel Santiago described running directly into one of the bathrooms with a friend after the shooting started. Santiago estimated that there were about 15 to 20 people in there. Mateen entered shortly after and started shooting.

Parker said that when Mateen entered the women’s room, his rifle jammed, so he used his handgun.

By 2:10 a.m., at least 10 officers had entered the club.

The first moments were filled with confusion as the police made their way through the dark club. One who entered through the east patio said he heard shots, while another said he didn’t hear any.

A group of six officers, including Officer Brandon Cornwell, had entered the club by busting out a window. Cornwell said Mateen “was actively shooting.”

Orlando officer Michael Ragsdale later said in his narrative to police that as he entered the back bar area from the patio, he saw two other officers shooting down a hallway.

“At that time I could not see what they were shooting at,” he said.

There seemed to be a lull in gunfire, Mina said, and then Mateen apparently began shooting again, revealing to officers his location in the club. Mina said he thinks that officers shot at Mateen about 2:17 a.m., the same time that emergency dispatchers received some of the last reports of gunfire. It was not clear whether Mateen fired at police during this encounter.

Mina said that once Mateen was barricaded in the bathroom, the shooting stopped, so police decided to hold their positions.

“If there had been additional shots, [police] would have heard,” Mina said. “They were literally feet from the bathroom.”

By almost 2:18 a.m., police seemed to have control of the club’s main room, according to publicly released documents and interviews.

For the next three hours, though, a terrifying scene unfolded in the women’s restroom as clubgoers, some of them suffering from multiple gunshot wounds, were trapped with Mateen.

One victim, 18-year-old Akyra Murray, Parker’s cousin, described losing feeling in her arm. Murray, who managed to call 911 from the bathroom, later told a dispatcher at 2:36 a.m. that she was losing her eyesight and feeling in her body.

[‘It was just complete chaos’: Orlando survivors on the struggle to stay alive]

In another exchange, a caller said “people are bleeding out in the bathroom.”

At 2:35 a.m., another caller described “everyone in the bathroom groaning in pain.” At 2:39 a.m., Justice texted his mother: “I am gonna die.”

Meanwhile, Mateen was making contact with 911 and police. In a 2:35 a.m. call to an emergency dispatcher, he said he was the shooter in Orlando and pledged allegiance to the leader of the Islamic State.

In three other calls scattered over the next hour, each lasting between three and 16 minutes, Mateen talked with police negotiators. He said there was a vehicle outside the club with bombs and that he had a vest — the kind they “used in France.”

“In the next few days, you’re going to see more of this type of action going on,” he said to a negotiator. While he was holed up in the bathroom, Mateen searched online on his phone for mentions of the shooting, according to law enforcement officials.

Police continued trying to free people from the club. At 4:21 a.m., officers pulled out an air-conditioning unit from a dressing-room window to let victims evacuate. Mina said eight people who had been hiding inside were saved.

As victims escaped through the window, they told officers that Mateen said he would put bomb vests on four people within 15 minutes.

Once they learned this, police decided they had to make a move, despite the potential consequences.

At 5:02 a.m., the Orlando police SWAT team and a hazardous-
device team from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office began breaching a wall of the club. They tried to use explosives to bring down a bathroom wall so they could enter and rescue victims, but that didn’t work.

The failed attempt probably signaled to Mateen that police were coming. Minutes passed as officers continued trying to ram an opening into the club. During that time, witnesses said, Mateen started killing people inside the bathroom.

“We were already at great risk, but . . . they made it worse,” Parker said. “They put us at more risk.”

Parker said she saw Mateen kill at least two people, possibly a third, in the women’s bathroom. Based on photos of the victims that were published after the shooting, she identified two of the people as Deonka Drayton and Tevin Eugene Crosby.

Patience Carter, a survivor who said she fled and hid in a bathroom stall with Parker, said that when police ordered people away from the wall as they prepared to breach, Mateen appeared to shoot several more people.

[‘How did I walk away alive?’ The Orlando shooting through a survivor’s eyes.]

Using a BearCat armored vehicle, authorities punched a hole between the two bathrooms, but they had picked the wrong spot. In a third attempt to get in, the tactical personnel created another hole in the men’s room and survivors started streaming out.

Mateen emerged from one of the openings and fired at the SWAT team. Parker said the fusillade was so intense she could feel the heat from the bullets flying past her.

“I was getting burned up by the bullets bouncing from everywhere,” Parker said

At 5:14 a.m., police radio communications indicated that shots were fired. One minute later, those radio calls said that police had shot at Mateen and he was down.

When it was over, Mateen was dead. So was Murray, the 18-year-old who had called 911 saying she was losing feeling in her body. She was among the dozen or so dead in the bathrooms. Officials found no explosives or suicide vests.

Mina said 15 hostages held in one bathroom were freed and three to five escaped from the other.

How to stop an active shooter

In the aftermath of the shooting, law enforcement officials defended their actions. A. Lee Bentley III, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Florida, has said that the officers responding “should not be second-guessed.”

Mina said this was not a typical active-shooter situation. If Mateen had been in the open, he said, the officers would have shot at or arrested him. Instead, Mateen was already in the bathroom when he was first spotted.

“Officers followed their training in responding to active-shooter incidents,” Mina said.

Police say that during the standoff, they were continuously taking victims out of the club from the main room and bringing them outside to get medical help.

[A Marine’s military training helped him save dozens from Orlando gunman]

Paramedics responding to the shooting, however, never came within 100 yards of the building during the attack and standoff that followed. They were “not equipped to handle an active shooter,” according to Orlando Fire Department District Chief Bryan Davis, who served as incident commander that night.

Mina said that if this had been a college campus or mall, emergency fire and rescue personnel would have come into the building. But this was a relatively small building that police cleared quickly.

“There wasn’t a need” for paramedics to enter the building, he said. Officers “were easily able to get people to aid.”

After other shooting attacks in places such as Aurora and Colorado’s Columbine High School, officials and experts have emphasized the importance of pursuing the attacker or attackers as quickly as possible.

“In light of experience from multiple victim shooting incidents in the past two decades, widely accepted police strategy is to attempt to quickly neutralize an active shooter — go to the shooter, and do not wait for special teams or special equipment or a large force for attack,” concluded an independent report analyzing the 2012 Aurora movie theater shooting at the city’s request. “The longer the perpetrator is left to shoot, the more people may be killed or injured.”

The Orlando police posted on their website last December — after two attackers who pledged loyalty to the Islamic State killed 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif. — that they had held regular training for active-shooter situations since 2000.

 “Since law enforcement’s focus is always to contain and stop an active shooter, in 2014, OPD modified its training to integrate the Orlando Fire Department,” the statement said. “In this new training, which was taught in scenario-based exercises starting last spring and summer, rescue personnel respond to what we call ‘warm zones’ (where contact with the shooter or shooters is not likely to occur) so they can quickly enter, locate, treat, and evacuate casualties.”

Authorities are continuing to investigate the handling of the shooting. Mina said officials do not know how many of the victims who were alive during the prolonged standoff later died in the bathrooms or how many had survivable gunshot wounds.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating the officers who discharged their weapons; the agency declined to say specifically when during the event any of them fired shots, saying such information would be released when the investigation concludes.

During the initial encounters with Mateen and at the end of the three-hour standoff that followed, authorities say, 14 officers fired their weapons.

Orlando police say 11 of their officers fired, seven of them SWAT team members who fired at the end of the confrontation, killing Mateen. Three Orange County sheriff’s deputies also fired.

Mina said he did not know whether law enforcement had inadvertently killed any of the clubgoers.

Chris Voss, a former FBI SWAT team member and hostage negotiator, said that the decision not to follow Mateen into the bathroom was a gamble but one that was understandable.

“Cops are paid to take risks but not stupid risks,” he said. “This is not military combat where there are acceptable casualties on both sides. Law enforcement doesn’t have that conversation. No casualties are acceptable.”

Voss said that “buying time increases the likelihood of a successful assault” and can often save more lives.

The rule for law enforcement, he said, is, “Don’t make things worse.”

“We don’t want cops to be cowboys,” Voss said. “I see cops going down and things being worse. Play the odds and step back.”

Mina said that there will be lessons learned but that his officers did the best they could with the information they had at the time.

“I have no regrets in the decisions that my officers and commanders on the ground made, and I have no regret with the decision I made, either,” he said.

[kscarbel2]

The New York Times  /  January 16, 2016

The FBI said Monday it has arrested the wife of the man who carried out a deadly terrorist attack in Orlando, Fla., and charged her with obstructing the investigation of the mass shooting.

Noor Salman, whose husband, Omar Mateen, killed 49 people and wounded dozens in an Orlando nightclub that was popular with gays, was also charged with aiding and abetting by providing material support.

She was taken into custody by FBI agents at her home outside of San Francisco, where she had been living with her young son.

Prosecutors had been weighing charges against her for months in the aftermath of the attack by her husband on June 12, 2016.

Investigators interviewed Salman for hours after the attack and came to believe she was not telling the truth about her husband’s plans to carry out the rampage [so why wasn’t she taken into custody then?].

She is expected to make an initial appearance on Tuesday at a federal court in Northern California.

The Justice Department’s decision to prosecute Salman, 30, ends part of the mystery that has surrounded her since the first days after the attack, when she became a central subject of the wide-ranging investigation into her husband.

In an interview last year with The New York Times, Salman claimed that she “unaware of everything” in connection with the attack.

Salman said she had accompanied her husband to Orlando with their child once when he scouted the club but did not know the purpose of the trip. On the day her husband drove to Orlando, she claimed he said he was going to visit a friend, named Nemo, who lived in Florida. But Nemo was not living in Florida at the time, a fact Salman said she did not know.

She also said she had no reason to suspect that ammunition he bought in the days leading up to the attack was to be used in the shooting, given that her husband was a security guard who frequently purchased ammunition. On the day of the shooting, she bought her husband a Father’s Day card, expecting him to return that evening. Her lawyers believe that supports her story that she did not know about the attack [planned alibis].

During his attack, Mateen used Facebook to pledge his allegiance to ISIS.

The FBI doesn’t believe that Mateen, age 29, received any specific training or support from ISIS.

Salman married Mateen in a ceremony near her childhood home in Northern California, a second marriage for both. After the wedding, they moved to Fort Pierce, Florida.

Their marriage in 2011 caused consternation among some of Salman’s relatives, mostly because of her Palestinian heritage and Mateen’s ancestral ties to Afghanistan. Salman claimed that her husband beat her repeatedly and verbally abused her.

[kscarbel2]

Only in America........................

Will President Trump act ?

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Judge approves release of Florida nightclub shooter's widow

Reuters  /  March 1, 2017

A judge cleared the way on Wednesday for the widow of the gunman who killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, to be released from jail and also appeared to throw doubt on the strength of the government's case against her.

Noor Salman, 30, was arrested in California in January on federal charges she knew before the June 2016 shootings that her husband, Omar Mateen, was planning the attack and concocted a cover story for him.

Prosecutors want Salman to remain jailed before her trial in Florida.

But U.S. Magistrate Judge Donna Ryu said in an Oakland courtroom that the government had not shown Salman was a danger to the community or a serious flight risk.

"I find the weight of the government evidence as debatable," Ryu added.

Commenting on the prosecutor's charges against Salman, the judge said: "All the government assertions are hotly debated."

Salman is charged with obstructing justice and aiding Mateen in his attempt to provide material support to a terrorist organization.

Mateen was killed in a shootout with police after he took hostages during a three-hour standoff at the Pulse nightclub and carried out the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Ryu gave prosecutors in Florida 48 hours to challenge her ruling, meaning Salman could not walk free from jail until Friday at the earliest.

William Daniels, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office of the Middle District of Florida, said by telephone that prosecutors would file a motion by Friday with a judge in Orlando challenging Salman's release.

Ryu likened Salman's release to house arrest, ordering her to live with her uncle in Rodeo, California, and saying she could leave home only for court and medical appointments. Her conditional release will be secured with a $500,000 bond.