kscarbel2 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Call the good folks at Watts Mack (sponsor of this website) with your 1QHA4125BP5 front axle arrangement. They can view that arrangement and see the parts break-down of those tie rod end assemblies (10QH220P1/221P1) including the stud, springs, ect., and check availability. There used to be a repair "kit" that conveniently provided you with all the parts under one part number, probably 204SQ17 (or 204SQ21B). Watts can confirm the correct kit. Make sure you also order two 95RU32 tie-rod end rubber boots to complete the job. I wouldn't be surprised if they can assist you.. This is what most FA505s have. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-338456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 agree, that looks like a standard 505 rebuildable end to me. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-338844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s. Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Try calling John Chalmers, Cashtown PA. I recently purchased a tie rod repair kit from him for my FA 512 axle. He may be able to help. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 8 hours ago, steve s. said: Try calling John Chalmers, Cashtown PA. I recently purchased a tie rod repair kit from him for my FA 512 axle. He may be able to help. Thanks for the info. I had heard his name before but didn't know where he lived. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 On 7/5/2016 at 10:31 AM, kscarbel2 said: Call the good folks at Watts Mack (sponsor of this website) with your 1QHA4125BP5 front axle arrangement. They can view that arrangement and see the parts break-down of those tie rod end assemblies (10QH220P1/221P1) including the stud, springs, ect., and check availability. There used to be a repair "kit" that conveniently provided you with all the parts under one part number, probably 204SQ17 (or 204SQ21B). Watts can confirm the correct kit. Make sure you also order two 95RU32 tie-rod end rubber boots to complete the job. I wouldn't be surprised if they can assist you.. This is what most FA505s have. Did you contact Watts Mack (with your 1QHA number) and check if the 204SQ17 tie rod end repair kit is applicable to your truck, and still available? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 11 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: Did you contact Watts Mack (with your 1QHA number and check if the 204SQ17 tie rod end repair kit is applicable to your truck, and still available? I did call Barry again with the individual tie rod end numbers from the build sheet and the number on the pin cup and still no luck, not even on the seal parts. I went to Moog technical with those same numbers and measurements and they couldn't come up with anything. I did find some used parts with hardly any wear that seem to be serviceable. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 13 hours ago, HarryS said: I did call Barry again with the individual tie rod end numbers from the build sheet and the number on the pin cup and still no luck, not even on the seal parts. I went to Moog technical with those same numbers and measurements and they couldn't come up with anything. I did find some used parts with hardly any wear that seem to be serviceable. Did you contact Watts Mack (with your 1QHA number) and check if the 204SQ17 tie rod end repair kit is applicable to your truck, and still available? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 14 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: Did you contact Watts Mack (with your 1QHA number) and check if the 204SQ17 tie rod end repair kit is applicable to your truck, and still available? I should have been more specific, I contacted Barry at Watt's Mack twice with all the numbers we spoke of regarding a complete tie rod end, repair parts or seal kits. He said none were available for the FA 505. Watts is always my first choice for parts as I appreciate their support and also this forum. I also appreciate all of the help and knowledge available here. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Thank you for the update and clarification. I realize that demand for tie rod end rebuild kits is low. But then again, the FA505 was the most popular steer axle on the most popular B61. Steering and brakes are the two "musts". And tie rod ends are a wear item. If one can no longer obtain a rebuild kit from Mack, and it appears that the aftermarket never really supplied these components, then the restoration and subsequent operation of these trucks is really a dead issue. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-339377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON06 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 YOU CAN REPLACE THE TIE ROD ASSY. WITH STEMCO P.N. QT967SS IT WORKED FOR ME AND IS A LOT CHEAPER Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-443642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden wolf Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Thanks for the tip, PISTON06. 16 hours ago, PISTON06 said: YOU CAN REPLACE THE TIE ROD ASSY. WITH STEMCO P.N. QT967SS IT WORKED FOR ME AND IS A LOT CHEAPER I’ll check out that assembly to see if it will work for the B-42 I’m buying this weekend. 😁 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-443673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeHugh Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 2/24/2020 at 10:42 AM, PISTON06 said: YOU CAN REPLACE THE TIE ROD ASSY. WITH STEMCO P.N. QT967SS IT WORKED FOR ME AND IS A LOT CHEAPER I'm contacting Stemco now to verify the taper of their product matches the FA505 axle knuckles on my 1963 B61. Do you have the major and minor diameters and the length of the taper on the ends of the assembly you bought? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-503053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydawg Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Can you provide any STEMCO contact info? Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45816-b-61-tie-rod-ends/page/2/#findComment-509878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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