sodly Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I've seen a few photos of this truck floating around online. I know it was at the Macungie show recently. I think it's really interesting. In some photos it has NASA on the doors. Is this a legit NASA truck? Would love to see the interior and hear more about it. Anyone know the owner (Ken Ochenkowski of Hartford, CT???)? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I met Ken once but don't really know him. Here are some pictures I took at the Bolton Fairgrounds in 2015. There was a note giving some info on the truck. Not a NASA truck. Click the link. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 No one has mentioned yet that it is a Hayward truck.......just sayin......... Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 Yep, Hayward truck. Wonder if the owner hangs around here. Did anyone see what type of air suspension it has? Mack didn't offer air suspension in the 60s, did it? Wonder when it was converted. Did anyone catch the specs on the truck? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 if I am not mistaken, that truck was on ebay coupled to a ww2 era tanker trailer, sold by a trade school in Idaho?.. we had a thread going on it, I think Superdog would recollect. BC Mack Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 It was in MT,low miles,ENDT673C with a 15 speed Fuller,the air ride was factory,early Neway.I was bidding on it awhile,but turned bidding over to Ken. Thought I was going to end up with the truck,as he was only interested in the trailer for a truck he already had, but he kinda changed his mind. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 Do you recall what it sold for? Incidentally, when did Mack change from green interiors to beige? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Superdog said: It was in MT,low miles,ENDT673C with a 15 speed Fuller,the air ride was factory,early Neway.I was bidding on it awhile,but turned bidding over to Ken. Thought I was going to end up with the truck,as he was only interested in the trailer for a truck he already had, but he kinda changed his mind. this was part2 of the story... http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40886-1970-mack-fl711lst/#comment-296436 however, my post has the link to the original Sept 2014 thread but it will not open for me and I ran out of "search" ideas... to jog memories for some, same ebay seller had a rare Corbitt too... I think the eventual buyer only wanted the tanker and offered back the truck, but price was still too high... nice to see it out and about, however, it would look much better with the tank and in airforce colours. BC Mack Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Hayward trucks had many interior options ("luxury choices") such as faux leather, etc. My father's tractor had beige and faux wood paneling. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 But wasn't there a point when Mack went from green metal to redesigned beige interiors across the board? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 hours ago, sodly said: But wasn't there a point when Mack went from green metal to redesigned beige interiors across the board? I have seen 73's with green steel dash and straight back cab and also with beige plastic dash and the deeper cab. depends when they were made terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Norm Taunton had one alit like it few years back but it had plastic interior white steering wheel pretty much same setup same color bob Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-338942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I've met Ken before(last time at York). I see he has Jeff's name on the door(I'm pretty sure it is a joke), as Jeff is from Florida. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-339024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeff Lakaszcyck Posted July 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Since my name is on the door I can probably fill in a few of the blanks here. Ken's 1970 FL711 was originally built for Hamilton Standard in Colorado, an aerospace company. The truck has a ENDT673C with a deep under 15 speed and air ride. It is all aluminum, and pretty much all original including the wheels. It has 36,000 miles showing and that appears to be original. It is quite a nice piece. I tell folks that I found this truck for Ken, but he wasn't looking for it. What he was looking for was a World War Two 4000 gallon F1A aviation fuel trailer used by the Army Air Corps. Ken has a 1943 Biederman 7-1/2 ton 6x6 F1 tractor he is restoring, and these tractors were only used to pull the F1 or F1A fuel trailers. They were actually designed to pull two trailers in tandem. These trailers just don't exist any more. I know of one in Europe that is very rusty, and there was another in Maryland that I think was scrapped. I saw the Corbitt ebay listing that BC Mack mentioned, and in the background there was an interesting looking yellow tank trailer. I clicked on "other auctions" and the same seller, a college in Montana, had the F model Mack for sale and it was hooked to a genuine F1A fuel trailer. I couldn't believe it ! I told Ken about it and he won the auction. He originally had little interest in the Mack and was going to sell it, but decided he wanted to look it over before he did so. Once he got it home he realized what an original and rare truck it was, and decided to keep it. It is now one of his favorites and he is having a lot of fun with it. I work at the Kennedy Space Center with NASA, so the NASA sticker on the door last year was a joke between friends. But it is possible that the truck hauled parts for NASA as Hamilton Standard built parts for the Space Shuttle, and Apollo too, I think. I asked Ken a few months ago if the NASA sticker was still on the door, and he said he took it off. So at Macungie I was quite surprised to see "Lakaszcyck Truck Lines" on the door ! Ken calls it my truck, but I don't expect to see it in my garage any time soon. I got to drive it a little at Macungie and about busted my ass getting in and out of it. I think I need trucks with running boards ! The first photos below are the ebay photos. The orange truck below is the Biederman Ken is restoring. Last are a couple more of the F711. Be sure to read the fine print. Edited July 24, 2016 by Jeff Lakaszcyck 2 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-340229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Thanks, Jeff. In the meantime I was able to track down Ken and he gave me most of the story you related. Did you happen to get any photos of the interior? Edited July 24, 2016 by sodly Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-340232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Lakaszcyck Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, sodly said: Thanks, Jeff. In the meantime I was able to track down Ken and he gave me most of the story you related. Did you happen to get any photos of the interior? No, I didn't, and I meant to ! Late Saturday we moved the truck out into the open so someone could take some pictures. I didn't get his name but have a feeling he is a member here, Maybe he got some. 11 minutes ago, sodly said: 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-340233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCrutch Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I believe that NASA at one time owned atleast one Mack F model. I saw a picture a while ago of a blue(?) Mack F hauling the Enterprise (I believe) in a desert setting. Can't find the image anymore. I'm pretty sure it was being pulled off of the runway it landed on for one of the early glide tests of the shuttle, one of the tests where it was piggy backing on a 747 before being released to glide on it's own towards a run way. Just a hunch that this would've happened at White Sands New Mexico. Don't know if that info will help anyone find anything out about that truck. Quote Who needs a back yard when you could have a Yard?! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-442484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Seems like I just saw that truck posted on here a few months ago for some reason or another don’t remember why they posted it or who.....bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/45958-anyone-recognize-this-f-model/#findComment-442493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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