Popular Post DSCannon Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 A friend of mine sent me a few pictures of a three E9 engines which were found in a long lost trailer behind one of the Mack plants. They were supposed to go the Mack Museum. Has anyone seen them there? Two of the engines are French military quad turbo versions rated at 1000 hp. 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Much thanks to your friend for sharing these photographs. The black engine appears to be a "display" unit. Does it have unit pump injection? Mack Trucks had planned to re-launch the E9 V-8 in 2003 with Bosch electronic unit pump (EUP) injection. Revisions allowed it to meet the latest EPA standards The military spec units were probably built in 2003. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Looks like all inline injection pumps. I'd love to see actual literature on a unit pump e9 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 33 minutes ago, Dirtymilkman said: Looks like all inline injection pumps. I'd love to see actual literature on a unit pump e9 No sales marketing literature was ever printed because Volvo killed the program. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 K Did they have a prototype built or was it all on paper? Since the Volvo trashers Didn't and haven't used Any of the good ideas they inherited Why would they run with a revised V8! Turds! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 57 minutes ago, fjh said: K Did they have a prototype built or was it all on paper? Since the Volvo trashers Didn't and haven't used Any of the good ideas they inherited Why would they run with a revised V8! Turds! Yes, a running prototype was built. The program was mature. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I seem to remember seeing these at the museum a few months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 WELL If anyone happens to see this prototype v8 at the mack museum post them pics I would dearly like to see it as well! I've seen the prototype 6 cyls they were working on posted! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post staxx Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 At museum👍🏁 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 The dark green engine intercooled? Imagine if those went up for sale?! That would be intresting Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-341996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 64C85 Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 As an employee in Hagerstown's E&R lab, I know they were all delivered to the museum along with a trailer of other engines (707C , EN431, ENDT 676, etc and transmissions. And YES, a prototype Bosch electronic unit pump (EUP) injection V8 was actually built and installed in a test chassis. 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoos Brothers Construction Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I believe the green one was built it the mid to late 80s. I have a Bulldog Magazine with a picture of it painted gray but the after cooler was a different color and I believe the turbos were red. I'll post a pic shortly. Also if you look in the pictures above it has a V pump not an inline. Very very cool!! Thanks for sharing. Thanks, Josh 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yoos Brothers Construction Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 Picture is from Bulldog mag. Volume 19/Number 3/1989. They called it the E9 "Hypercharge" V8 producing up to 1000 horsepower. Enjoy 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doug Maney Posted August 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2016 The engines did arrive at the museum. The green Hypercharge is on display with the cutaway E-9. As the displays rotate, the other engines will be on the floor. 4 Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Did Mack have a different 6 cylinder in the works too? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Yes, they were working on a Big Six but it was not produced. Here is a link to some previous conversation and a couple of pictures. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 That's very interesting. Isn't that what Scania is doing now? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 On 8/11/2016 at 11:03 PM, ws721 said: The dark green engine intercooled? Imagine if those went up for sale?! That would be intresting All the new spare French Military E9's came back to the States a while ago. There were about 10-14 of them and Dale Francis has them now. I saw a few there at his place... way cool to see but sadly they are all getting parted out. There was some major issues getting them back in the USA and they can not be sold complete due to emissions. Not being US emission certified is what he said. There are about 10-12 more take outs over there but... the hassle of getting to them. If you had a big wad of cash I bet one could go out the back door. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Here's the big six and the cutaway 👍🏁 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Only two oil filters on the quad charged E9? Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 On 8/16/2016 at 9:05 PM, staxx said: Here's the big six and the cutaway 👍🏁 That big six would've completely changed the history of mack trucks. I love the e9 but that big block six could have been rated from 350 all the way to 550hp if it was produced and lasted thru the 2000s . Would have been popular engine. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 12 hours ago, logtruckman said: That big six would've changed the history of mack trucks. Taking a closer look at that engine, those are E9 heads. Same bore but bigger stroke. Still wonder why it got shelved?? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 On 8/17/2016 at 11:04 AM, AZB755V8 said: Taking a closer look at that engine, those are E9 heads. Same bore but bigger stroke. Still wonder why it got shelved?? It's a shame , that big six would have made mack more competitive in the 90s . They could have marketed the CL 600 series to the big fleets that run full size 120 inch BBC trucks with the big bore six . When strict emission rules took effect that big six would have handled being choked better than the e7 did. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superliner500 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Does the unit pump e9 still exist. I would love to see it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 if they need any help loosing any of those e9's I would be willing to help the cause! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46406-lost-e9-engines/#findComment-342886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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