Look what I saw today

[Superdog]

[carlotpilot]

an mh day cab have`nt seen one of those since ups got rid of theiers

[yarnall]

Neat.  You haven't talked him out of it yet?

[mackdaddy]

Looks like a UPS all wheel drive

 

[Vladislav]

One rare beast.

Worth some tongue twisting if the owner is contactable for discussions.

[Timothy Maikshilo]

Nice Mike, lights in the bumper? Is this because she sits a bit taller being all wheel drive?

[farmer52]

2 hours ago, Timothy Maikshilo said:

Nice Mike, lights in the bumper? Is this because she sits a bit taller being all wheel drive?

Yes.  Notice the extra steps under the bumper and the battery box/air tank.

 

 

[mowerman]

kinda like the MB they all just vanished....i havent seen one out here in years...they changed the length law in california...everyone went to conventionals...i still see cabovers from time to time,,,but thiers not many left...bob...

[farmer52]

Mike,

You need to snag this one.  Not sure if it was originally a UPS truck (no roof faring and MACK on the grille).  I read in an article about the 4WD MH, the configuration was available for production.  Do you have a VIN?  The museum would be able to identify the original purchaser.  Would be interesting to know how many were built.

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Has the extended front bumper and some other UPS features. As far as survival numbers being low, this ain't like the MB, as very few MH 4 by 4s were built to begin with. As far as the switch to conventionals, UPS didn't with until the early 90s.

[Superdog]

6 hours ago, farmer52 said:

Mike,

You need to snag this one.  Not sure if it was originally a UPS truck (no roof faring and MACK on the grille).  I read in an article about the 4WD MH, the configuration was available for production.  Do you have a VIN?  The museum would be able to identify the original purchaser.  Would be interesting to know how many were built.

It has a custom built for UPS dashplaque

[yarnall]

Please put me on the waiting list.  How far down am I?  Mike. 

[Brocky]

Did UPS have any 6X6's??? I can see a petroleum outfit or a fire department having one..

[BillyT]

I've never seen a 6 by 6 road horse but makes sense if they run the mountain passes,donner,cabbage etc.You sure couldn't push a Ups drop floor pup!,wonder if you'd be required to chain the steering ? Lol

[hurstscrambler]

What would this truck have for a transmission?  Andy

[BillyT]

What a beautiful looking horse! Would make a nice "hobby truck"  I'd love to have an old UPS Diamond T or reo single axle Cabover,but they seem to have "dropped off the earth" For many years it seemed that every old Cabover in America was going into Mexico.they cut the frame in half with a torch and stack them on another truck or drop deck.(this avoids the tariff you pay to export a truck) Its no longer a truck,it's truck components! Then at the destination in Mexico or central America,you weld it back together and it's a truck again.Those folks have no problem with driving a damn Cabover!

[Maddog13407]

I assume this would have about the same drivetrain as say an RM with a 285 or 300 with a 5 speed and divorced transfer case? one of the best options Mack ever had was that divorced transfer case

[farmer52]

8 hours ago, hurstscrambler said:

What would this truck have for a transmission?  Andy

Powertrain is EM6-300 with TRDL1070 (with 1, 2, 3, and 4 OD gears blocked out).  Transfer case is Mack TCS-15 (modified TC-15).  Front axle FABCO SDA-16 4.61.

I posted the article in WiKi that was published in December 1986 issue of Fleet Owner.

 

[BillyT]

Just thought of this could that UPS 4by4 be for use in Alaska? Do they run there? I've never been there.

[BillyT]

Farmer 52, if you're from Canton you know where Louisville Oh. Is. I was delivering a load of new Ford's at the dealer there in 74, and a young Amishman kept driving by in his buggy.After I got about 3 units off I realized he was checking out the shiny new Ford's !! Didn't have any flat black ones however! Lol

[Underdog]

Just thought of this could that UPS 4by4 be for use in Alaska? Do they run there? I've never been there.

I believe these were used by UPS in the Rocky mountains.

[Swishy]

And Now

Something Completely different

 

 

 

 

 

Thanx to Hanks Truck Pictures & Ray J McNae Album

 

Standing in growing spring grass Hometown PA route 61 a rare MH Ultra liner once hauled for Goods Furniture out of New Holland Park Pa. Pretty much stock E6 and nine speed Mack till you get back down the frame and this truck has been modified with a 9" drop frame allowing a full height cubic National van. Stock Rockwell 44 k rears must hold some pretty high gears with fifteen inch wheel that just slip over the brake drums.

 

Cya

§wishy

[Brocky]

Swishy

We had several companies in the States running similar (mostly Freightliner)  equipment hauling auto parts. There was a fairly long topic on these on one of the forums about 2-3 years ago under the Heading of: Stoops Freightliners.

[BillyT]

I 

[BillyT]

The second I saw that drop frame mack I thought of the Stoops trucks.Stoops owned,and probably still does a Freightliner and also a Ford truck dealership in Kansas city.I don't know which one.They also had a trucking Company.They were running those Ford(9000 series I think) air ride cab,Cabover.The ones that on a curve looked like they were gonna turn over!! They pulled 53ft high cube flat floor Vans.They hauled empty containers.I forget for who.They had standard full screws,theMack has a Canadian spread.The Stoops drop frame and rear driveline unbolted from the cab and front frame. It appears the Mack frame is welded.I was driving an Mh like the one pictured,only a single axle. With a 50 ft drop deck "big shot" when Stoops express was  in business. I thought what a great hotshot Cabover those would make if you pulled the front drive and made it a single axle.Think what you could load on a53ft flat floor with a 10 ft spread! There was an article in one of the trucking publications about them.They were running double od.trannys,10spds I think.Great pics!