E9 MAGIC

[GOOG]

I've read a lot on this forum about the awesome power of the Mack E9 V8.  I'm wondering where the E9 shines the most. I'd like to hear from some guys that have, or have had this big power plant.  I'm looking at one with a Mack 18 speed behind it.  The pros and cons of owning one. 

[tjc transport]

pros: they are monsters that will pull anything, anywhere, anytime.

Cons: they are impossible to get parts for anymore if they break.

[AZB755V8]

That is EZ... They shine when you step on the pedal and really comes to life.

Pro: Owning one.

Con: Wishing you owned one and asking why you should have one.

Pro, Pro: Owning more than one, knowing how to work on it and having parts.

Con,Con: Finding one that is toasted and needs a lot of work, cant work on it yourself...$$$ to fix no one really around to work on them anymore and no parts.

[BAD DOG]

They shine with about a 140,000lbs gross wt climbing a long  grade .  You just haven't went truck'n till you've had that experience of heavy load on a long hill and passin everyone .  There's nothing like it. I used to like coming up the Niagra escarpment  out of Hamilton Ont. Hauling steel 85, 000 plus pounds on the deck of my six axle used to drop one gear in my 15 spd over and shed he'd t down to around 1650 rpm and hold it there she'd get down to 50 mph . I'm guessing it's probably close to 2 miles but a lot of  trucks go up there a lot slower with less weight. 

[kscarbel2]

 

[AZB755V8]

I like that video!! Even if it is for the E9's cousin in Europe. 

I took my 18 year old son on a trip to Vancouver Canada in July, to pick up two E9 MH's and a spare E9 as a matter of fact. One good MH and a few spare parts will come out of everything.  He is a go fast kid, has a twin turbo Beemer, speeding tickets and others... Going though the mountains it was funny, and woke him up hearing  the engine sing. Dad, Dad it isn't normal to be passing everything going up the mountain is it and where is the locomotive?? I said so now you can understand I don't listen much to the radio in the Superliner the song it plays is just fine. Yah the old truck does break, needs care, drinks fuel a little, smokes more than most today, sort of like the old man that it is. I would not get rid of it for anything... well maybe a load of Benjamin's.   

There is nothing like a wound up E9 with strait pipes, pulling a good grade with a load. I got a good standing offer on the trip for the old dog when it is time to let it go.

[mack mhe9]

Everything they said.

Here is a 1992

E9 500

Mack 18 spd.

3.65 rears.

Not bad on fuel if you don't abuse it.

Reliable

Dynatard is like any other on there lowest setting. 

Still running it.

 

[GOOG]

13 hours ago, BAD DOG said:

BAD DOG, what version E9 did you have?  Was it stock, or turned up?  I'm looking at a truck with a freshly rebuilt E9 500. 

 

[AZB755V8]

36 minutes ago, GOOG said:

BAD DOG,what version E9 did you have? Was it stock, or turned up? I'm looking at a truck with a freshly rebuilt E9 500.

It is a inline pump engine that started in late 92. Can tell from the low intake tube.

I can say be careful with a fresh rebuild... If all that work was done why sell it? I bought my Superliner with a low miles rebuilt engine. The rebuild was done in 2005 and it sat for years. It recently dropped a valve seat at 15,000 miles, 3000 after I bought it. In fairness it is turned up a lot, was a sled puller for a time but I was babying it since I got it to feel it out. It does have Reman heads and all Mack parts, big buck rebuild.

Get the work order that went with the rebuild., if it is fresh there is a warranty that should transfer. If like me the time ran out years ago not miles. Mack Reman parts are not what they used to be. There is a member or two here that has paid for Genuine Reman and had major issues. Right Superdog?

If you get it put some loaded miles on it to make sure all is OK. I had some issues to work out with mine and still have few to go. It was a play truck but I actually haul with it now. By the way what are you looking at, lets see some photos.

[kscarbel2]

2 hours ago, AZB755V8 said:

It is a inline pump engine that started in late 92. Can tell from the low intake tube.

I can say be careful with a fresh rebuild... If all that work was done why sell it? I bought my Superliner with a low miles rebuilt engine. The rebuild was done in 2005 and it sat for years. It recently dropped a valve seat at 15,000 miles, 3000 after I bought it. In fairness it is turned up a lot, was a sled puller for a time but I was babying it since I got it to feel it out. It does have Reman heads and all Mack parts, big buck rebuild.

Get the work order that went with the rebuild., if it is fresh there is a warranty that should transfer. If like me the time ran out years ago not miles. Mack Reman parts are not what they used to be. There is a member or two here that has paid for Genuine Reman and had major issues. Right Superdog?

If you get it put some loaded miles on it to make sure all is OK. I had some issues to work out with mine and still have few to go. It was a play truck but I actually haul with it now. By the way what are you looking at, lets see some photos.

The former superb Mack Trucks Remanufacturing Center outside of MIddletown, Pennsylvania, established by the legendary Ross Rhodes, is now a Volvo branded facility.

http://www.volvotrucks.us/about-volvo/facilities/reman-center/

 

[BAD DOG]

9 hours ago, GOOG said:

 

Mine was or is a 92 E9 450 Robert Bosch inline pump stock except for an ajustment on the fuel plate and aneroid valve a bit this engine was and isn't a smoker unless you lug the crap out of it . I still have it its in my 89 Superliner now back then it was in a 92 MH613  and at the time I was hauling steel for a bit  it was a fairly fresh rebuild on this engine. The MH was in a wreck  shortly after and kept that engine and put it in my Superliner . I only use it for show now it's still low mileage I do get the itch to hook on a big load and try it out though.

[mack mhe9]

Is this the orange RW out of TN or close.

 

[GOOG]

I'm looking at the CL that is in the classified section on this site.  I'm usually hesitant to go into detail about a purchase so as not to draw unwanted interest into the situation.  But this truck is out in the open already.  Does anyone have info on it?  I am a Superliner guy from way back, however I am 6'-8" and really appreciate the added space in the CL cab.  This truck while 2500 miles away from me, is how I would spec it, minus a double frame.  The seller said it has been turned up a bit (700), but that it's at about 550 now.  To be honest, I'd like it at 700.  You don't have to use it all, but it's sure nice to have it waiting for you!!

[gearhead204]

Ya at 6'8" and a r model cab you are asking for a broken neck! At 6'3" I hate to see a bump in the road cuz I know its going to shorten my spine! as for the e9 they are awesome ! and so are the part prices.......and I don't mean awesome in a good way when talking about parts!   

[GOOG]

31 minutes ago, gearhead204 said:

Ya at 6'8" and a r model cab you are asking for a broken neck! At 6'3" I hate to see a bump in the road cuz I know its going to shorten my spine! as for the e9 they are awesome ! and so are the part prices.......and I don't mean awesome in a good way when talking about parts!   

I am not as concerned with the price of the parts as I am the availability of the parts.  I buy Cat and Case earth moving equipment parts every day.  Cat charges a lot, but has everything I want almost instantly.  Case charges more, and often the part is not available.  Some of my Cat machines go back well into the 70's.  While Case no longer supports two machines that are a 1998 and a 2000. 

[41180]

So far we've been able to get parts for our E9 they are expensive though . 

[gearhead204]

58 minutes ago, GOOG said:

I am not as concerned with the price of the parts as I am the availability of the parts.  I buy Cat and Case earth moving equipment parts every day.  Cat charges a lot, but has everything I want almost instantly.  Case charges more, and often the part is not available.  Some of my Cat machines go back well into the 70's.  While Case no longer supports two machines that are a 1998 and a 2000. 

what two case machines? i've  had good luck with them (granted not cat they would still supply parts for my old d4 7u) but I can still get most parts for case machines that are late 60's and up. I am not a fan of the new CNH parts prices! but still much better than Deere (both price and product)  

[GOOG]

I have two 9060B excavators.  I can get some stuff.  For instance, I just bought the last heater control valve on the planet.  I needed a final drive, but had to search for a used one.  Not much support from Case.  Cat has whatever I need.  I have two 966C loaders.  They have or will get anything I need.  I'm a devout Cat man!  Feel the same way about Mack.  Although with the changes Volvo is making, that is subject to change. 

[GOOG]

I've read a lot about the two different styles of injection pumps.  The V style and inline. The truck I'm looking at has an inline pump.  is that a Bosch, or Robert Bosch? Which is better? 

[Underdog]

You guys looking for older machinery parts check into WENGER'S MACHINERY in Myerstown, PA. Their business is used farm & construction equipment and parts. I'm sure they ship anywhere.

[AZB755V8]

22 hours ago, GOOG said:

I've read a lot about the two different styles of injection pumps.  The V style and inline. The truck I'm looking at has an inline pump.  is that a Bosch, or Robert Bosch? Which is better? 

I've got them both... Both are fine and do the job well. I prefer the inline but it is only because it is the newer one. The inline is the one most truck pullers are looking for. I have seen more of them on Pulling Pickup truck V8's than E9's lately. As far as value the inline is more expensive to get, because of the demand from the P/U guys, but both cost about the same to rebuild. Both can be turned up.

There is no real difference in any truck E9 400-500hp except for pump, turbo, intake and oil pan( front or rear sump). A E9 is a E9.... they did not change much. A real difference is the pump timing from year to year. Started with about 17 degrees, 1979 and dropped to 11 about 1990 with the inline pump. It was an EPA thing.