Willie dog Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Does anyone know of a place to get the front and rear hub seals for a 1958 B-42? I haven't tried an all out search yet...I was wondering if anyone found a good place to get them without a whole lot of trouble. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Look for a set of numbers on the metal part of the seal, it will give the parts store a cross reference number for NAPA or a National Seal P/N. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Call Mack in Harrisonburg. They should still be able to get them. Tim in parts 540-434-2557 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, 41chevy said: Look for a set of numbers on the metal part of the seal, it will give the parts store a cross reference number for NAPA or a National Seal P/N. I have done that with no luck yet. I haven't done an extensive search yet with the likes of NAPA or Car Quest . It is stamped with C/R and then the number. C/R is Chicago Rawhide I found out. They are unable to cross reference the number. I'll keep searching though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I got seals for my A model and L model fire trucks from Associated truck parts. They had not problem getting them. I took in the old which had leather in them and they crossmatched them. I don't know if they are a local chain or if they are in your area. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Willie dog said: I have done that with no luck yet. I haven't done an extensive search yet with the likes of NAPA or Car Quest . It is stamped with C/R and then the number. C/R is Chicago Rawhide I found out. They are unable to cross reference the number. I'll keep searching though. https://www.daltonbearing.com/brand/chicago-rawhide http://www2.chicago-rawhide.com/popup_parts_lookup_457012.htm 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Most seal numbers are the same across all manufacturers. Here is a cross reference for CR, which is now SKF. http://www.oil-seals.com/xref-seals.htm Once you get the numbers be sure to check around as the price of seals varies widely. Sometimes the best price will be on eBay or even Amazon. The local bearing/seal specialty shop quoted me $200.00 plus for a seal I found for $20.00 on eBay. 2 Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Napa is pretty good with getting seals,just got rear ones for a 71 R model from Napa today. the FA505 in your B42 was a common axle and used into the early 70's in the R model, all they changed is the width of the beam, should be fairly easy to get seals for. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 On 9/9/2016 at 3:17 AM, carlotpilot said: Call Mack in Harrisonburg. They should still be able to get them. Tim in parts 540-434-2557 That Mack distributor in Harrisonburg, Truck & Equipment, deserves very special mention. The gentleman who founded it, Bob Plecker, represented all that was good about the former Mack Trucks. Bob was one of finest individuals I ever had the pleasure to know. Of course they had their freight company too, North & South Trucking Lines. Great memories there, of a fantastic Mack distributor. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: That Mack distributor in Harrisonburg, Truck & Equipment, deserves very special mention. The gentleman who founded it, Bob Plecker, represented all that was good about the former Mack Trucks. Bob was one of finest individuals I ever had the pleasure to know. Of course they had their freight company too, North & South Trucking Lines. Great memories there, of a fantastic Mack distributor. Never met Mr. Plecker but Tom Kline who ran the show is a super guy. He retired about a year or so ago. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-345858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thanks to everyone for the valuable information. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 On September 19, 2016 at 9:03 AM, kscarbel2 said: Willie, do you have your truck's line sheet with the 1QH front axle arrangement and 1QF rear axle arrangement ? What front and rear axle models do your have? I have the sheet........if I read the numbers right......front axle is 4125AP Arrgt. FA505 P Rear is....5402 P Arrgt. RAS508 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks a ton for the information. The sheet is hard to read.....it looks like a smudged copy of a blurry copy of a fuzzy original. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie dog Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Okay, I'll confirm my part number thoughts next week. I'll do some deciphering and send you the whole line of numbers and letters. Thanks so much. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If you can make the actual measurments there's a great offer on seals of about almost different sizes on both Stemco and Timken websites. I suppose those producents are of the top level about quality. 2 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 11:49 AM, Willie dog said: I'll do some deciphering and send you the whole line of numbers and letters. Thanks so much. https://mibearings.com/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=2&sort=5a&page=10631 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Okay, your B-model’s line sheet shows: Front Axle Arrangement: 1QHA4125AP6 (FA505) Wheel seal – 88AX100 (supercedes to 88AX100P3) Rear Axle Arrangement: 1QFA5402P5 (RAS508) Outer wheel seal – 88AX97 (supercedes to 88AX97P3) Inner wheel seal – 88AX240 (supercedes to 88AX240P3) I would think that the folks at Watt's Mack (1-888-304-6225), provider of the BMT website. can accommodate you. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Okay, your B-model’s line sheet shows: Front Axle Arrangement: 1QHA4125AP6 (FA505) Wheel seal – 88AX100 (supercedes to 88AX100P3) Rear Axle Arrangement: 1QFA5402P5 (RAS508) Outer wheel seal – 88AX97 (supercedes to 88AX97P3) Inner wheel seal – 88AX240 (supercedes to 88AX240P3) I would think that the folks at Watt's Mack (1-888-304-6225), provider of the BMT website. can accommodate you. A lot of people don't realize some of the old macks had two wheel seals on each wheel, hand packed in bearing grease for the inner bearing, and the the outer run in gear oil. With a seal between them, most people would remove the outer seal and run both bearings in oil. Don't know if it takes a different inner seal then. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I suggest you operate it with both inner and outer rear wheel seals......use it as it was designed by Mack engineers. Give Watt's Mack a call. Using a quality synthetic grease is the only necessary "upgrade". 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Okay, your B-model’s line sheet shows: Front Axle Arrangement: 1QHA4125AP6 (FA505) Wheel seal – 88AX100 (supercedes to 88AX100P3) Rear Axle Arrangement: 1QFA5402P5 (RAS508) Outer wheel seal – 88AX97 (supercedes to 88AX97P3) Inner wheel seal – 88AX240 (supercedes to 88AX240P3) I would think that the folks at Watt's Mack (1-888-304-6225), provider of the BMT website. can accommodate you. 88AX100P3 https://mibearings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3834_7238&products_id=241980&zenid=ts97dqkp8269lcbmi9fbg2c9e0 88AX97P3 https://mibearings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3834_7238&products_id=242294&zenid=ts97dqkp8269lcbmi9fbg2c9e0 88AX240P3 https://mibearings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3834_7238&products_id=242105&zenid=ts97dqkp8269lcbmi9fbg2c9e0 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I took the one seal out of mine, run it in gear oil but was packed in grease when put together.... been good for 11,000 miles so far Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 9 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: I suggest you operate it with both inner and outer rear wheel seals......use it as it was designed by Mack engineers. Give Watt's Mack a call. Using a quality synthetic grease is the only necessary "upgrade". I wasn't telling which way to go on the seals, most people don't there are two seals till they get them apart. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46767-searching-for-seals/#findComment-346959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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