Mcrafty1 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I have an 1986 Mack RD685S is it considered antique now? I work the truck every day and have since I purchased it in 2002 so it just doesn't seem 'antique' to me. If it is are there any percs to owning and working an antique truck? ie: licensing fees, insuring and such? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 If you license it as an "antique", most states restrict the usage (i.e. parades, shows, etc.) but cannot be used "for hire" or commercial service. Check with your state BMV to be sure. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcrafty1 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 5 hours ago, farmer52 said: If you license it as an "antique", most states restrict the usage (i.e. parades, shows, etc.) but cannot be used "for hire" or commercial service. Check with your state BMV to be sure. OK Thanks, I am reasonably sure my state has restrictions but I'll check to be sure. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Antique tags and insurance prohibit it to be used for commercial or paid work. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The BEST PERK of all is to be on BIGMACKTRUCKS.COM. We have it all,then when you think things are getting boring, someone shares a nice photo of something really nice. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Ken is right.. Most or all states require that a vehicle must be "retired" to a hobby status with absolutely no commercial usage to qualify for antique/historical plates and insurance. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 In Pa I'm not "allowed" to hual my antique tractors to a tractor pull if there's any type of cash payout. Ribbons and trophy a are ok but no $. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 stupid ques but how is Pa gonna know if there are trophys or ribbons? I have actually heard of dot harassin someone over sellin t shirts at a show, that were transported to the show in a historic vehicle tho Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Quote stupid ques but how is Pa gonna know if there are trophys or ribbons? I have actually heard of dot harassin someone over sellin t shirts at a show, that were transported to the show in a historic vehicle tho The gent I bought my toter from was a drag racer and he mentioned that one of his concerns was winning money while racing and thus being considered a "commercial venture" that would require a CDL. He checked with a state police officer he knew and basically the officer said if anyone tried to stretch the law to that point they didn't belong in law enforcement. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Maddog13407 said: stupid ques but how is Pa gonna know if there are trophys or ribbons? I was also told that technically if I'd haul something for someone else and they bought me lunch, drink, or fuel that is considered compensation and making it illegal. I couldn't haul my kubota to your house and dig a flower bed for either, if u paid me anything. But... "freinds can help either out". for free. They are pretty strict with the rules I guess because its only a one time fee to get antique or classic tags. But like any law it's all left open for the person enforcing its opinion . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 22 hours ago, 41chevy said: Antique tags and insurance prohibit it to be used for commercial or paid work. 100% correct. Antique's are considered anything over 25 years old. But as Mcrafty1 said the truck is still in Commercial use. There are more than a few 30 plus year old trucks still working and do not qualify for reduced tag and insurance cost. The truck must be retired from service. The fine in AZ is real high if you get pulled over, it is like DUI you can't afford it here... I do not know of any state that would put a weight tag on an Antique plate and there are a lot of restriction as well to begin with. All of my "Antique's" do not have Antique plates. Here there is no advantage but only disadvantages going Antique. Here to haul/tow the declared GVW weight has to be on the registration. Insurance is the main cost savings but carries restrictions, "no commercial use" in any way and some companies will not let you tow a RV camper on these policies. Only your own property and you can not have a business use for the vehicle at all. No money can be gained in anyway from use of the truck. The point is IF you are in an accident and found doing something considered commercial, racing, pulling, selling stuff and use the truck to haul it, etc. You are screwed and Antique insurance is void as well as the plates. The truck has to be registered in you'r name or Antique Museum's. I was told taking trucks to ATHS and other shows, if there was a paid admission fee to look at them it was questionable. Someone was profiting from their use or being there. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) The biggest problem is a class 20 in pa is $1561.00 a year. Antique or classic is only a one time fee of $75. For a working truck there's no way around it. For a hobby truck it's hard to justify the cost. Edited September 11, 2016 by Hobert62 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 18 hours ago, Hobert62 said: I was also told that technically if I'd haul something for someone else and they bought me lunch, drink, or fuel that is considered compensation and making it illegal. I couldn't haul my kubota to your house and dig a flower bed for either, if u paid me anything. But... "freinds can help either out". for free. They are pretty strict with the rules I guess because its only a one time fee to get antique or classic tags. But like any law it's all left open for the person enforcing its opinion . Our Dept of Safety man said ribbons and trophys are NOT compensation, BUT buying your breakfast or a case of beer are!! Would be sort of hard to prove by a DOT officer, but then again a lawyer in a fatal suit would definitely try. 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hobert62 Posted September 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2016 On September 9, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Mcrafty1 said: I have an 1986 Mack RD685S is it considered antique now? I work the truck every day and have since I purchased it in 2002 so it just doesn't seem 'antique' to me. If it is are there any percs to owning and working an antique truck? ie: licensing fees, insuring and such? The biggest perc is not having to deal with check engine lights and emissions crap. And the BMT family is right along with it. 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcrafty1 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 9/11/2016 at 4:09 PM, Hobert62 said: The biggest perc is not having to deal with check engine lights and emissions crap. And the BMT family is right along with it. I guess I should have stated my question a little differently and included 'other than the obvious' lol, I couldn't agree more, not having to deal with those things is perks enough to keep on with the old Mack. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 another question. Do I need a Class A to drive an antique with a trailer? 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/46782-antique-status/#findComment-345544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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