Wobblin-Goblin Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 And now I've got a dilemma. Do I try to find pistons and rings and stuff? An entire 711 that runs? Do I put a 237 in it and mate it with the Quad? File pic: 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 711 pistons and rings maybe a little hard to find, they are a little bigger than a 673 engine, a running 711 or even a running 237 is a gamble on how long it will run, there are a ton of B models out there repowerd with the 237. 237 parts will be more common. I guess it all boils down if you want it original. terry 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That sucks. It is a tough call. You will have a lot of money into rebuilding it. Might be cheaper and more reliable to put something newer in it. $800 is a lot for those pistons but I paid $1000 for 6 pistons for an EN540. They are for my father's B66 that I wanted to keep gas powered. Mike. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Up grade to the later power and Mater will be good to go for a ton of years more. Paul 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Another question is liner condition on the piston that let loose. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Time to find a 237. Believe me you won't regret that change!! I grin from ear to ear when I get behind the wheel of my truck now knowing it has some balls to it. Have these guys upgrade your stock clutch material: http://dwclutch.com/ I had $300 in getting mine rebuilt last winter when I put my 237 in. I will say it is a bit chattery at times but very drive-able. 2 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 well things do go wrong , only problem with putting another second hand motor is you dunno how long it will last till something lets go on it as well but if you rebuild your own you will know whats a bit suss and whats ok Paul 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Guys, I appreciate the advice and replies (which is the reason why I posted it). I believe I'm going to try and find a running 237 to put in it. Hopefully, I will understand how to drive it so I keep the Quad from grenading. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I drove a DM dump for about 10 years with a 237 and a quad, had no problems, but I was the only driver, just don't lug it like a 5 or 6 speed, keep the rpm's up you will be fine, also don't be shy about using lo-lo in the quad. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 And you should be able to sell the 673 for a reasonable sum since parts are getting so hard to find for those. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I was terrified about my triplex, but I have found that it does fine overall. Yes, I still drive it like a Thermodyne, keep it above 1500 rpm and nothing sounds like it is complaining. Some have said that a 237 won't pull higher RPM(up to 2100)very well, but mine is awesome. No complaints at all. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I doubt if turning a Maxidine 2100 will hurt it.. The ones I drove for Matlack in the early 70's turned 2100 at 65 MPH and we ran them that way on the NYS Thruway and I-81.. Also Matlack's had the Switzer(sp) double turbo's mounted on the exhaust stack behind the cab to unload pneumatic cement trailers and when you did it was a NO LOAD 2100 for an hour at a time!! 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-349989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Questions for those in the know: 1. Does a 237 bolt right up to the Quadbox transmission? 2. Does it bolt right up to the B-model frame? 3. About how much would a running 237 go for? Thank you, gents. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-350226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 Well, it's confirmed. Piston #3 melted. The head appears to be OK. Trying to get parts now. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 I'm a little late to the party, but yes that does suck. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatngu Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I have a 711 turbo that sits around, if you need parts you can have it. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Not that you care, but I have more respect for you trying to fix what you have. Way to go and good luck with it. It might be about retirement time for the Great looking B Model. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblin-Goblin Posted April 3, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Mike said: Not that you care, but I have more respect for you trying to fix what you have. Way to go and good luck with it. It might be about retirement time for the Great looking B Model. One way or another, I will do what I have to, to keep this truck on the road. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Wobblin-Goblin said: One way or another, I will do what I have to, to keep this truck on the road. Where are you located? I'm in MN and my cousin has a motor here with a 5 speed bolted to it. Motor has less than 100,000 on it. I can't remember if it's a 237 or 300. But I know hes not married to it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Dirtymilkman said: Where are you located? I'm in MN and my cousin has a motor here with a 5 speed bolted to it. Motor has less than 100,000 on it. I can't remember if it's a 237 or 300. But I know hes not married to it. I'm from CT. I spent a little time researching switching over to a 237 or 300 and found out rear ends would have to be swapped, too, if I went that route. As much as I would like the extra power of a Maxidyne under the hood, I'm not sure I'd want to add that much work to the job (of getting it back on the road) unless there were no other options. Having said that, thank you for mentioning it and don't take this as me saying "no," I'm saying "I'm not that desperate...yet." Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I keep trying to pawn off my ol 673, but you are quite a trip away. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Wobblin-Goblin said: I'm from CT. I spent a little time researching switching over to a 237 or 300 and found out rear ends would have to be swapped, too, if I went that route. As much as I would like the extra power of a Maxidyne under the hood, I'm not sure I'd want to add that much work to the job (of getting it back on the road) unless there were no other options. Having said that, thank you for mentioning it and don't take this as me saying "no," I'm saying "I'm not that desperate...yet." I think you have to change rears only if you went with a different transmission, a 237 works real good in place of a 711 or 673 engine. terry 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Freightrain said: I keep trying to pawn off my ol 673, but you are quite a trip away. Drain all the oil and antifreeze out of it and put it on a pallet and ship it to him. I do it all the time biggest thing is not to have anything dripping out of it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Wobblin,thats a great looking B! Needs to stay on the road! The first B I drove was a 711 with a triplex a dump.similar to yours! Keep us posted on progress! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 6 hours ago, terry said: I think you have to change rears only if you went with a different transmission, a 237 works real good in place of a 711 or 673 engine. terry Ahhhh. Now I remember that. You're right. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47410-so-mater-blew-a-piston/#findComment-366291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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