Nice B, but holy smokes, the price!

[Jeff M]

This is getting up into collector car money, in my opinion....

https://nh.craigslist.org/hvo/5828764079.html

[Freightrain]

Sadly it takes that much to get it to that point.  Just have to find someone that wants to pay it.

[tjc transport]

yup, pay that much or maybe even more to have someone do it, or buy one already done and hope it was done correctly.

[HeavyGunner]

That's a pile of money to pay for a truck with original mismatched interior paint in my opinion. 

[Mike]

I was told many years ago, that when someone put a big price on something, they really didn't want to sell, just show it off.

[mowerman]

Nice lookin ride ....lol. For that kinda dough, I could fill my yard with all all my life-long dreams.

[fxfymn]

I hope the restoration skills are better than the typing for the ad...I would never pay that much for a Mack "V" model.

[Maddog13407]

Nice truck, probably worth it. Like Larry says, cost that much just to get one that nice. Never seen a single axle with that B81 series front axle either. Wonder if someone put that under there.

[Red Horse]

I do believe this truck has changed hands at least once in last year.  The guy that had it before the current owner had it in its current condition.  So a bit of mark up going on here.  It is a very nice truck in any case.

[Willie dog]

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 5:54 PM, HeavyGunner said:

That's a pile of money to pay for a truck with original mismatched interior paint in my opinion. 

Not to mention all the zip-ties holding the hoses and wiring in place.

[Maddog13407]

the zip tie to the emergency brake linkage holding a hose up??

[57 bcr]

On 11/14/2016 at 11:09 AM, Maddog13407 said:

Nice truck, probably worth it. Like Larry says, cost that much just to get one that nice. Never seen a single axle with that B81 series front axle either. Wonder if someone put that under there.

Could a B-61 (or 613X) use that same front axle Matt?   Al

[steve s.]

The big front axle was an option, at least on the X's, but it is unlikely that it was matched with that small 23,000 lb rear axle.  Still a very nice truck.

[Willie dog]

23 hours ago, Maddog13407 said:

the zip tie to the emergency brake linkage holding a hose up??

Not to put another man's truck down, but I noticed some details that for a BIG $$  truck should have had a little more attention......such as the zip-tie holding the cable up as well as some items under the hood.  But that is just my opinion. Guess it comes from restoring vehicles for most of my life. Both professionally and personally.

[Maddog13407]

I don't think you could get that B81 series front axle without the 29000 torque rod rear end such as a B61 or B613X. its nice, its 35-40000 nice, not 59000 nice but probably took that much to get there.

Edited November 17, 2016 by Maddog13407

[fxfymn]

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Not to put another man's truck down, but I noticed some details that for a BIG $$  truck should have had a little more attention......such as the zip-tie holding the cable up as well as some items under the hood.  But that is just my opinion. Guess it comes from restoring vehicles for most of my life. Both professionally and personally.

And I thought I was the only anal person here. It just kills me to see a "restored" rig done incorrectly. I'm not talking AACA make sure the correct hose clamps are used, but just getting the right details such as using clamps to hold wires and hoses and period correct accessories. The real shame is many owners have the vehicle done professionally and it still has items such as the ones apparent here.

[Freightrain]

Ya, the zip ties are fine for hidden areas and wires, but some simple rubber insulated clamps would be some much more professional looking.

[Willie dog]

And speaking of restoration, just wondering everyone's opinion.

Do you like to see a restoration job that is full of details such as newly plated bolts, screws, etc? Or the exact way it was done at the factory?  (down and dirty hurry up and get it out)

I noticed on my tanker truck after getting it down to the bare frame,  EVERYTHING was assembled and then painted, all the wiring and plumbing for the airlines, heck , even the brakes had red paint on them.  It's messy by today's restoration standards but it is %100 correct as done originally. 

Any thoughts or opinions? 

[Freightrain]

Frames?  I like them done like factory with everything painted, but again I like when wires and hoses are contrasting colors.  I guess it depends on how the rest of the vehicle is done.

[j hancock]

The plated, polished and better than perfect look is great but I certainly don't have the patience to do it.  Clean working clothes for trucks is not a bad thing.

[fxfymn]

Probably a topic for a whole different thread, but...To me the restoration of any vehicle should suit the owner that is paying the bill. If you like the original paint everything in sight and get it out the door look than go for it. I would probably prefer to tidy it up a bit, especially since any work needed down the road would require a complete re-spray to get the "proper" look back, but that is just me.

I think that you need to decide what you want to do with the truck before you start the process. I keep my 52 looking pretty much as it was when it was in-service, including using enamel paint to keep the original look. On the 25 I'm doing I want to get it "better than new", so I'll use modern multi-stage paint and go for a plating quality that the factory never strived for.

This is why I like doing trucks, not cars. Truck folks are not picky or pretentious no matter their station in life; they don't care if the number of threads per inch in the upholstery matches the OEM seats. They just appreciate a well done job and the fact that you saved a piece of history for the next generation to enjoy. 

Edited November 18, 2016 by fxfymn

[Maddog13407]

• Mack painted everything in sight, red oxide primer, assembled axles, hangers, springs, wiring and plumbing then paint. the original B Models I think even the steering column was in the frame when it was painted. Mack also brush painted the clutch pedal where it came thru the floor black instead of frame color. I have seen more than a few 'Monday and friday' trucks where this was forgot to be done. guess like others said all depends what your striving for. I like the monochromatic look but also like the contrast of wiring and plumbing being set apart. Mack also painting all the little god awful phillips fine thread bolts they use to use to hold all the wiring clips up to in the frame. when I did mine I used stainless bolts, washers and ran the wiring after paint. just seemed more clean. also gotta remember they didn't expect most of these trucks to be around 50 or 100 years later. they were thinkin more along henry fords 'production' idea.

[fifth wheel]

I believe this was originally a B 60

FW

[Keith S]

It looks nice, but seems like a lot of things are unfinished for something that's "Fully restored".  Either my '59 is/was wrong, or the radiator core-to-firewall X-brace is upside down (and rusty and not painted).

Are the grill louvers movable? If so, anybody have pictures of the mechanism?

As far as "correct paint" and bolts and... I say build it like you want it - just don't hack it up. I'm converting my '59 to all electric. Probably about 5 different paint colors; cast iron parts will look like cast iron; black phosphate; gray springs; steel bushings & U-bolts... etc.

I'm also going for the big yellow 10,000 lb Tonka Truck paint scheme. For the interior; I haven't decided how far to deviate from the original paint scheme, "Any color you want as long as it's all green". 

[41chevy]

On 11/17/2016 at 4:32 PM, Willie dog said:

And speaking of restoration, just wondering everyone's opinion.

Do you like to see a restoration job that is full of details such as newly plated bolts, screws, etc? Or the exact way it was done at the factory?  (down and dirty hurry up and get it out)

I noticed on my tanker truck after getting it down to the bare frame,  EVERYTHING was assembled and then painted, all the wiring and plumbing for the airlines, heck , even the brakes had red paint on them.  It's messy by today's restoration standards but it is %100 correct as done originally. 

Any thoughts or opinions? 

Our Riviera has all the factory patterns for the interior but is covered Leather and Velour ,body is stock but it a color I liked. One of my AC's I've added a generator looking alternator, stealth style disk brakes and a few other subtle mods, I do them the way I like them.