james j neiweem Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 As a rough guess what is the percentage of Mack's in the construction business in Illinois (Midwest) today, compared to Paccar, etc. I think they used to be 50% +. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 My observation is that they are down almost everywhere I travel except the Charleston, SC area. It seems like I see more Western Stars than any other newer truck these days. Lots of Macks in the trash hauling arena, but not as many dumps. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-353031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 In NJ/PA area it seems PACCAR is selling a lot of vocational trucks, Pete 567's and KW 680's 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-353032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Florida has to be running at least 80% macks from what I saw last year,I'm talking about dump trucks,not sure about dump trailers tho and they appear to be almost all company owned,not to many owner operators.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-353033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb61sx Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I have to say around here I see more new mack 10 wheelers and a lot more new CH tractors pulling trailers. I also think since McDevitt dropped Peterbilt. He is converting some of his Pete customers back to Macks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-353462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdudebrahx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 11/26/2016 at 8:25 AM, Underdog said: In NJ/PA area it seems PACCAR is selling a lot of vocational trucks, Pete 567's and KW 680's I'll disagree. I only see those trucks running the road as aggregate haulers. In the Philly heavy highway field, I wanna say at least 80% or more of local trucks are macks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 How's the lowboy job going Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 11/26/2016 at 8:25 AM, Underdog said: In NJ/PA area it seems PACCAR is selling a lot of vocational trucks, Pete 567's and KW 680's i agree. in the past 10 years or so most of the large contractors here have switched over from Macks to Kenworth T800's and now the new T880's Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well one thing I think you have to recognize-at least here in New England-say 25-30 years ago the dealer count was very heavily in Mack's favor. Today? IMO PACCAR dealers are like all over the place. To say nothing of F'liner and Volvo dealers. So from a competition perspective, it is a very different ballgame And of course, sad to say, the days when a "MACK was a MACK" are gone. And also sad to say, a lot of the old timers who built their business with Mack are also gone. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yea every body any more wants cookie cutter p o s trucks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, mackey58 said: Yea every body any more wants cookie cutter p o s trucks I don't think they want cookie cutter trucks, that's the only option anyone gets nowadays from all manufacturers. They are selling what they want to sell or what the government mandates them to sell not what the customer wants. Def and re-gen wouldn't be a thing if it were up to the customer. All these new trucks are plastic junk throwaways. 10 year lifespan, use them up and throw em in the trash. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 well, in the past 10 years Mack trucks have turned sour taste in a lot of owners. we had a 99 great truck. the 05 CV713 was a good truck too, but not speced properly for construction with the itty bitty rears. one of the guy sthat rents space in the yard has 3 newer Macks, a 2008, a 2011, and a 2014. all three are nothing but headaches. constantly going into limp mode due to DPF problems i went from the 05 granite to an 05 T800. and in the spring the 05 is going down the road and we are getting another T880 because hte boss has heard way too many problems with the new Macks from everyone that has one. the Kenworth is just a more dependable truck. and cost the same money as a Mack. hopefully Mack leadership gets their heads out of their asterisks and does something about it before there is no Mack trucks left . Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 What has Paccar figured out regarding DEF and engines randomly derating that other builders (Mack, International) have yet to figure out? Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 no idea. but the 2016 we have has not once had any DEF problems in 22,000 miles. and it has only gone into regen once so far. plus the 550 cummins with auto trans is averaging close to 8 mpg. the best Mike can get is 4.5 with the 2011, and that has a 425 and 18 speed. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Roger that on plastic junk throw aways .you ll never see truck's now days go a million miles before and overhaul hell they won't last a million miles.let's add more government mandates to them so they don't work 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I was looking at a Mack at Tri-state Kenworth trade-in talking to the service mgr he had a costumer with 5 new KW all was there at the same time with major problems. Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Yea every body any more wants cookie cutter p o s trucks They want low initial cost with a warranty, and then trade it away once the warranty is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 A lot of the buying decisions are driven by access to capital- The big companies can get financing and take a tax write off on depreciation, so they buy new and trade before the warranty expires. Us ordinary folks buy used and pay for the truck and big repairs with savings, loans from friends and family, and borrowing on our credit cards. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47781-macks-in-construction-today/#findComment-354914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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