brad_kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 All - Long-time lurker here. On and off I've been looking for a decent single-axle diesel with a longer wheelbase and flat bed. Lo and behold there is a '69 358 Brockway rollback for sale outside of Binghamton, NY that I am interested in purchasing and keeping as an antique here in PA (north of Phila). Owner is asking $12K. We've spoken on the phone, seems like a knowledgeable guy; this is his 20th Brockway, bought his first at age 13. He has done a lot of work on the truck and has two other truck projects going right now. Some details - Single-axle Brockway 358, Nh230 cummins, 5 speed with air shift 2 speed rear. Recently painted, fiberglass fenders, currently licensed and inspected. Maxis, tubeless rubber, can do up to 65 mph flat out in high range. 22' rollback bed, everything works according to the owner. Interior partially restored (dashboard and seats done - door panels need to be finished). Originally was a tractor, was later lengthened and bed was added; lived on a farm and fell into neglect. Current owner purchased it and restored it to current condition; he hoped to use it for more towing but just hasn't. As you can see from the pictures it's no garage queen, but looks like a solid driver. This would be my first (and only) big truck. So before I head up to look at the truck I'm interested in what you guys think of the truck's condition vs. price ($12K as noted above). Obviously, I will need to visit in-person at some point to get more info, but thought I'd run this info past the group first. Pictures attached - I have a couple more but these should get things kicked off. Thanks for your help, Brad Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 Exterior picture doesn't appear to have loaded - let me try here. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Brad, if i were actively looking for something like that, I would be on my way to look at it. We have this in the mix and use it on a regular basis. 86 MH . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 What suspension is under the back of your MH, ST34 or SS34? It appears a bit low. I assume it was originally a tractor. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Price is always a factor of condition and rarity. The 354 is not terribly rare, so it really depends on condition, with the amount of rust being the primary concern since mechanical fixes are usually much easier to accomplish. Go to the Brockway user's group and find someone who is knowledgeable about the 354's and where they typically rust and then check your truck closely in those areas. I'd also find out what, if any, parts are difficult or impossible to find. i.e. The vent window frames for a B look like a small thing until you look for one; I have seen them advertised for hundreds of dollars. The bottom line is if you like the truck and you can accomplish, or pay for, any needed repairs then go for it. Even if it is a little over budget you will not regret it if you really like the truck. 1 Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Brad Here is a link to this truck on the Brockway Trucks .org website which include some before pictures. http://www.brockwaytrucks.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5102 Not sure why he is selling?? Maybe finishing his Brockway wrecker?? He had it at Cortland last year so Tom Millard (oldspwr@gmail.com) or Stan Augustine (PM thru Brkwy site) have looked it over and can answer some of your questions about it. Remember you always ask high.. Offer $9-10K and go from there up to his $12k. Brocky 2 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb73lt Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) I would agree with Brocky. Look at it and give a good offer, see where it goes. Edited December 2, 2016 by mattb73lt 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-353758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 ya im thinking same thing around 9 seems fair with all good rubber and ready to go....good luck looks pretty good to me...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Wow! Three of my all time favorite trucks pictured here! A 358 Brockway was the first road tractor I ever rode in! Pittsburgh to Chicago with a load of sheet steel,220 Cummins with a 15 speed Eaton "bogie" The driver was the guy who taught me to "split a triplex" when we both drove for a contractor in Florida. The MH is my favorite Cabover of the many different ones I've driven! All things being equal,if I had to choose between a B model to restore or a 358, I'd do The 358! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Billy Where are you?? I have a 358LL I will sell you. Needs a complete restoration. Email me at brocky45@prtcnet.com Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Seems to be a strong running truck, I saw it twice at truck shows this year. There was a good discussion about this truck at the Brockway Trucks FB page if you're into that kind of thing. Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 vidya 1 Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Was my first also started riding with my pop 1960 long nose brockway think it was a 220 with was pretty small but I remember him shifting it sometimes they would just hit a button and let his foot off the gas and it would click to the next gear don't know what kind of transmission it was good times man bob Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Was my first also started riding with my pop 1960 long nose brockway think it was a 220 with was pretty small but I remember him shifting it sometimes they would just hit a button and let his foot off the gas and it would click to the next gear don't know what kind of transmission it was good times man bob Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk Probably a 2 or 3 speed rear axle to shift like that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Oooooooohhh ok thanks that makes perfect sense Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 26 minutes ago, Underdog said: Probably a 2 or 3 speed rear axle to shift like that. or a 13 spd fuller Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I've seen quite a few old Brocks use a straight 5-speed with multi speed axle. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Underdog said: I've seen quite a few old Brocks use a straight 5-speed with multi speed axle. ih used lots of 3 spds also eaton Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/47859-feedback-request-69-358-rollbrock/#findComment-354470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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