Remembering Pearl Harbor - December 7, 1941

[kscarbel2]

 

[HarryS]

Very Interesting

[kscarbel2]

So they basically knew what was coming and yet Pearl Harbor, from what we’re told, was not on a heightened stare of alert???

And were the outdated battle wagons an intentional sacrifice (though they didn’t expect an attack so severe given Pesrl’s distance from Japan), while the important aircraft carriers were sent to sea for safety?

[41chevy]

23 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

So they basically knew what was coming and yet Pearl Harbor, from what we’re told, was not on a heightened stare of alert???

And were the outdated battle wagons an intentional sacrifice (though they didn’t expect an attack so severe given Pesrl’s distance from Japan), while the important aircraft carriers were sent to sea for safety?

From a book called  AT DAWN WE SLEPT       by Gordon W Prange

Covers both sides with intelligence gathering,  FDR's opinions, Japan and U.S.  allies influences and the tactical planners from both sides.
 

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"Japan had a long list of grievances against the United States, the foremost being the recognition of the Chiang Kai-shek regime and the nonrecognition of Manchukuo. The very presence in Asia of the United States, along with the European powers, was a constant irritation to Japanese pride. The press lost no occasion to assure such intruders that Japan would slam the Open Door in their faces. “Japan must remove all elements in East Asia which will interfere with its plans,” asserted the influential Yomiuri. “Britain, the United States, France and the Netherlands must be forced out of the Far East. Asia is the territory of the Asiatics. . . .”

On a number of scores the Japanese objected vociferously to American aid to Great Britain and to Anglo-American cooperation. In the first place, Britain was at war with Japan’s allies, Germany and Italy, so what helped the British hindered the Axis. In the second, Japan considered that Washington’s bolstering of London perpetuated the remnants of British colonialism and hence the obnoxious presence of European flags on Asian soil.

Japanese anger also focused on the embargoes which the United States had slapped on American exports to Japan. By the end of 1940 Washington had cut it off from all vital war materials except petroleum. As far back as 1938 the United States had placed Japan under the so-called moral embargo. The termination on January 26, 1940, of the Treaty of Commerce and Navigation of 1911 removed the legal obstacle to actual restrictions. Beginning in July 1940, Washington placed all exports of aviation fuel and high-grade scrap iron and steel under federal license and control. In September 1940, after Japanese forces moved into northern Indochina, Roosevelt finally announced an embargo on scrap iron and steel to Japan. Thus, by the end of that year Japan had begun to experience a real pinch and a shadow of genuine fear mingled with its resentment of these discriminatory measures.

Tokyo also had an old bone to pick with Washington—the immigration policy which excluded Japanese from American shores and refused United States citizenship to those Japanese residents not actually born there.

Above all, Japan considered America’s huge naval expansion program aimed directly at it. Since the stationing of a large segment of the Fleet at Pearl Harbor in the spring of 1940, the United States Navy had stood athwart Japan’s path—a navy which Japanese admirals thought capable of menacing their nation’s very existence."

 

 

[Mack Technician]

At the end of the day the cause of global conflict, and a Third World War, will be the same as WW2..... hungry stomachs. Keep folks fat and happy they will see past a lot of transgressions. Take the food off the table, as with the Great Depression, everyone snaps out of apathy and into survival mode. If a guy can’t feed his kids, and can’t do a damn thing about it, he is in a position make some very poor decisions and believe some very unhealthy propaganda. Ex- rise of the Nazi’s. 

Edited March 4, 2019 by Mack Technician

[41chevy]

Here is whats stirring the pot. Religious differences, political differences IE Socialism verses all else, territorial disputes, general stupidity and the idea of entitlement. India and Pakistan over Kashmir, Cuba, Russia and China involving themselves in Venezuela, pick a spot in the Middle East and lastly the generation who believes unquestionably all they read on the internet, and zero consequences for ones actions.

Edited March 5, 2019 by 41chevy

[kscarbel2]

 

[mrsmackpaul]

Wow

 

This is all very interesting 

It would be only common sense that Japan got its technology from someone or somewhere and had to pay for it

 

Paul