High Dollar Magnum

[Back In Black Pulling]

Another from Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/macktruckers/posts/725806194157021

[hatcity]

saw that. might be a nice truck, but $$$$$ seems a bit high

 

that's because I can't afford it

[AZB755V8]

Nice Superliner. I hope he gets the $$$ he wants. If prices start going up it can only help all of us that have Superliners and other old iron. Sounds a bit crazy but to do a top rate restoration on these things is a $100K plus proposition.  I know this truck is billed as original and not redone but condition and up keep may warrant a big price. If prices got bigger I would fell a lot better on putting money into this stuff. Condition and desirability is everything and having someone willing to pay for it.  

[85snowdog]

I agree, Very Nice truck !      You think its expensive in US money .  Its over 170,000 in Canadian $ .   

I wonder if they would take an old snowplow on trade  

 

[V8Bulldog]

I went and looked at this truck a year ago. The truck was located in heartville  OH. That post is from 14 and he has since sold the truck. Nice guy and it was his Grandfathers truck and it was a peach of a truck.  I think it's now in a museum in Ohio. 

[Back In Black Pulling]

Huh never even looked at the date

[Truck Shop]

22 hours ago, AZB755V8 said:

Nice Superliner. I hope he gets the $$$ he wants. If prices start going up it can only help all of us that have Superliners and other old iron. Sounds a bit crazy but to do a top rate restoration on these things is a $100K plus proposition.  I know this truck is billed as original and not redone but condition and up keep may warrant a big price. If prices got bigger I would fell a lot better on putting money into this stuff. Condition and desirability is everything and having someone willing to pay for it.  

                                      Some people want prices to go up, I don't.  I do it because I like it.  When prices go up to stupid level then the small guy can only afford an AMT plastic model.

                                      Only the 1%er can afford it and look what happened to so called muscle cars. Most of those cars were not that rare, high production numbers. Most weren't

                                      even as fast as people thought they were. No these trucks don't need silly prices they need people who care about them, not some dink sipping wine with

                                       his buddies talking about a truck they never drove or understand. This is a blue collar thing and it should stay that way. IMO

 

                                         Truck Shop 

[AZB755V8]

On 12/10/2016 at 4:39 PM, Truck Shop said:

                                      Some people want prices to go up, I don't.  I do it because I like it.  When prices go up to stupid level then the small guy can only afford an AMT plastic model.

                                      Only the 1%er can afford it and look what happened to so called muscle cars. Most of those cars were not that rare, high production numbers. Most weren't

                                      even as fast as people thought they were. No these trucks don't need silly prices they need people who care about them, not some dink sipping wine with

                                       his buddies talking about a truck they never drove or understand. This is a blue collar thing and it should stay that way. IMO

 

                                         Truck Shop 

The point I was making is that it is good for someone to get good money for a really nice Superliner and maybe break even. If you figure the cost of the truck originally, cost of maintaining it, caring for it, garaging it, etc, the dollar amount far exceeds $120K.  If it was your truck would you sell it for $40-50K and eat the rest?  No, you would try and sell it for what it was worth.

I am into muscle cars too. Bought my first 69 Dodge 440 Six Pac car for $900 when I was in high school, it is long gone... Today it would be $70K in nice condition or maybe $25K in need of restoration. Restoration would cost about $50K so where does that put the value? Same thing for trucks, Running old iron is $5-10K and the prices go up from there.

I totally agree old muscle cars are really not that fast anymore. A new little Turbo or Supercharged something can run circles around that old Dodge.

You have the right to do what you want, play with what you want, be how you want, and be proud of it. Any truck show I go to these days there is a big range of trucks and conditions they are in, I like them all and it is good to see them still around and running even if some are not all that pretty. Then there's the trailer queens and they have their place too. Some have big buck in them, because guys like them that way. I don't think they are restoring them to make money, I know I am not.

I have my truck because I like them, take care of if them, drive them, repair and restore them. If I was doing it for the money I would have stopped long ago. I would like to get something out of them when sold but really doubt  it will come close to the actual money I have in them. Is that driving up prices or just trying to breaking even.

I don't get all the stupid prices, 1%, wine drinking and blue collar innuendo's, you brought up. This is a truck Forum, what does that stuff have to do with guys that like trucks? We all have our walk in life but have a common interest in Old Trucks or we wouldn't be on this Forum. I worked in machine shops for years, I am blue collar, I drink wine, beer, whiskey, I still work everyday and have a ways to go on being a 1%er. 

 

Just wondering what your point was?

 

 

 

 

From what you are saying, you what someone else to eat the cost of everything and you pick it up for nothing and call it, I do it because I like it. 

[gearhead204]

Well I wont speak for Truck Shop, but what I got from his post was truck collecting is more user friendly than the muscle car deal, wore out trucks bring wore out prices, rusted out muscle cars are thought to be one step away from Barrett Jackson prices.  What I get from rebuilding old iron is the satisfaction of doing it all myself, is it perfect no! but I can laugh about what I screwed up. The 1% can pay to have it all done by pros. never touch any thing but the door handle and the gas cap, and brag about "their" car......If I had unlimited resources I would probably only farm out the sand blasting of stuff, I enjoy the rest of it too much, even if I'm cussing half the time!

[Truck Shop]

                                 Gearhead204  understands-he got it. 

 

                                 Truck Shop

[Yoos Brothers Construction]

Just my to cents. It's nice to get high dollar if you can,but You will never get all the time and money out of a truck that you put in it. In a perfect world maybe but we all know this world isn't perfect.

 

Just my opinion, Josh

[MACKTRUCKS4]

Two years ago I bought my B755 from Dennis over at Old macks. He had just finished a deal on a truck very similar to this one and for around the same amount of money. Truck went to Australia into a truck museum. The time frame fits. I have to wonder if it was the same truck?

[hurstscrambler]

16 hours ago, AZB755V8 said:

The point I was making is that it is good for someone to get good money for a really nice Superliner and maybe break even. If you figure the cost of the truck originally, cost of maintaining it, caring for it, garaging it, etc, the dollar amount far exceeds $120K.  If it was your truck would you sell it for $40-50K and eat the rest?  No, you would try and sell it for what it was worth.

I am into muscle cars too. Bought my first 69 Dodge 440 Six Pac car for $900 when I was in high school, it is long gone... Today it would be $70K in nice condition or maybe $25K in need of restoration. Restoration would cost about $50K so where does that put the value? Same thing for trucks, Running old iron is $5-10K and the prices go up from there.

I totally agree old muscle cars are really not that fast anymore. A new little Turbo or Supercharged something can run circles around that old Dodge.

You have the right to do what you want, play with what you want, be how you want, and be proud of it. Any truck show I go to these days there is a big range of trucks and conditions they are in, I like them all and it is good to see them still around and running even if some are not all that pretty. Then there's the trailer queens and they have their place too. Some have big buck in them, because guys like them that way. I don't think they are restoring them to make money, I know I am not.

I have my truck because I like them, take care of if them, drive them, repair and restore them. If I was doing it for the money I would have stopped long ago. I would like to get something out of them when sold but really doubt  it will come close to the actual money I have in them. Is that driving up prices or just trying to breaking even.

I don't get all the stupid prices, 1%, wine drinking and blue collar innuendo's, you brought up. This is a truck Forum, what does that stuff have to do with guys that like trucks? We all have our walk in life but have a common interest in Old Trucks or we wouldn't be on this Forum. I worked in machine shops for years, I am blue collar, I drink wine, beer, whiskey, I still work everyday and have a ways to go on being a 1%er. 

 

Just wondering what your point was?

 

 

 

 

From what you are saying, you what someone else to eat the cost of everything and you pick it up for nothing and call it, I do it because I like it. 

To further the point, the guys who can spend 100k+ restoring an old truck can make a decision to spend the money or not knowing there is a significant loss when time comes to sell.  On the other hand the guy buying a truck for 5k may not have that luxury, he just puts a few dollars in here and there as he can.   That doesn't make anyone right or wrong, or better, or worse.  I understand that the old truck hobby hasn't evolved enough to be comparable to the muscle car market, but it could.   Either way I hope the buyer and seller of this truck were satisfied,  Andy

[Yoos Brothers Construction]

8 hours ago, MACKTRUCKS4 said:

Two years ago I bought my B755 from Dennis over at Old macks. He had just finished a deal on a truck very similar to this one and for around the same amount of money. Truck went to Australia into a truck museum. The time frame fits. I have to wonder if it was the same truck?

That is not the same Magnum. The one that went to Australia was Tom Browns. The one off Facebook was John Higginbotham's. Too different Magnums.

[BC Mack]

my 2 canadian cents.... that's 1.5 american 

I have a parallel hobby with vintage aircraft.... while it is nice to DIY, there are a significant amount of jobs created by the "1%" who farm out a complete rebuild of a ww2 fighter only to sell it a year later for half the cost of the rebuild... skills are maintained and even old crafts restored... who thought a brand new DH Mosquito would be seen again, now there are two thanks to the trickle down dollars of two billionaires.

asking price and selling price are still far from total cost.... you rarely get all your money back... if you don't have the skills or time to create you're own dream car or truck, just buy one, it is far cheaper... just not as much "fun"..

there are guys, and gals, out there who just want to drive to a show and display the dream vehicle they built... with their cheque book..!!  their money went downstream to the crafts that built it who in the end do benefit us with parts and services now available to us.

I'm with most of you, I DIY, and I am happy with a tidy clean truck, not afraid to get it dirty and realise I won't get my labour back out if I sell.... and I'm happy with that.

BC Mack

[mrsmackpaul]

I dont really care what anyone does as long as they are having fun is all that really matters 

I am a firm believer that is what all this collecting restoring playing with and working old gear should be all about Im not about to knock someone for paying to have something done nor someone for doing it all them selves or some bloke that enjoys his truck in its work clothes

To me its all about having fun doesnt matter to me if its a bloke in his 80's that has done a paint job with a brush and house paint or a show truck that has $20,000 blown on a paint job its all fun times

It's gunna end up pretty boring if we all end up doing the same thing

 

Paul 

[fxfymn]

I like trucks because the of the folks who are around the hobby. Unlike many antique car folks they don't care if it is a 100 point restoration that includes using the "proper" hose clamps and the right number of stitches per inch in the upholstery. All they care is that you are saving a piece of history for the next generation to enjoy.

If you can afford to have it done, go for it. If it weren't for people like Matt Pfahl getting paid to do restorations I might not be able to locate parts for my DIY projects from him. I'm glad someone is supporting his shop and the pay checks that go with it. I'll never resent a check book restoration and I'm glad the projects they are paying for are being saved. Plus it gives me something to strive for when I do one.

If you watch the TV auctions there are many car projects that sell for far less than the cost of the restoration. If you go into the antique vehicle restoration hobby to make money you are probably going to lose big time. The only folks who consistently make a profit are the shops like Matts that do it for a living. And they are not buying and selling on a vehicle, but are paid for the actual labor involved.

My rule of thumb is a total restoration will generally sell for about 30% of the restoration cost unless the vehicle is very rare. That is why it always smart to buy the very best vehicle you can find instead of buying a cheaper alternative that needs a lot of work.