Gus #9 1946 The Road to Life Once Again

[TDBach]

On 5/20/2017 at 9:49 PM, 41chevy said:

That's what happens in a liberal world.

I wonder how many of those people realize over 5000 blacks fought on the side of the CSA and 3200 were slave owners them selves. Quite a few are in the Sons of the Confederacy too.  War is dirty and the liberals don't want to know about that. In Vietnam I led over 100 Zippo raids on villages.In the 1973 War in the Sinai my unit left scorched earth on the way back including many Egyptians. There is a memorial to them  it is not offensive, it is part of history  Remember both sides have a right to honor, not just the "winner".

 

You are correct.. there were many plantation owners who were also black that had slaves in the south...many Africans who were slaves were sold by black tribal leaders from other countries... a sad world where people felt obligated to sell each other or force people into slavery...whites were also captured by natives and forced into slavery...just as Germans, Jews, Asians, Middle Easterns and other races...cultures...not just African Americans...the problem is children are not born hating other races, they are taught to hate by their elders.  Any veteran who fought regardless of race should be honored.. whether it was fighting for freedom...for the right to vote.. including women...or fighting to keep terrorism out of this country.  Veterans stand for the strength to stand up and fight for what they believed in...the strength and courage to create change...to make life better for their families.. a veteran was willing to sacrafice themselves for these things...that takes courage..honor and commitment.  Those who complain and bring no solutions..those who do not work or pay taxes..have no right to complain.  I'm angered by the hate boiling in this country...times have changed and we need to get it together.  Every single person in this country can make something of themselves with hard work and commitment...all races have proven that anyone of us can be successful with a little elbow grease...the problem is no one wants to work for anything anymore... give me...give me.. and only minor punishments for major crimes...no one learns the value of anything if they are given everything for free....We all bleed red.. we stop racism by simply stopping it...we stop teaching our children to hate.. and this country pulls together and maintains leadership in this world through the professionalism and strength of our men...our families..our military..and our government... removing a statue is not going to fix this country's problems... our problems are far greater.   Thank you for your service 41 chevy!!   

Respect to all no matter your gender...race...or culture, but remember respect is earned not given.  I've never been discriminated against as a woman working in a mans field because I work my ass off... I also don't put up with any crap, and I don't feel sorry for myself or blame others if I fail, because only I can change me...

if we are unable to learn from our past through the teachings of accurate history...then this country is in trouble. 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Correlation is not causation, and you haven't even proven correlation.

[tjc transport]

1 hour ago, 41chevy said:

Don’t drink the water in Flint, Mich. Federal and state officials botched a water supply switch there and ended up contaminating the city’s drinking water with lead. It’s a sad and infuriating story that has gone on far too long. but it is a mess.

 

 

not quite true. yes the city botched a water supply switch. but that did not contaminate the city water supply.

it is a sad and infuriating story that has gone on for far too long, and it is quite a mess. now for the truth of the matter.

Flint decided to stop buying treated water from Detroit, and draw water out of the Flint river and treat it in their own water treatment plant. 

what they forgot was that 99 % of the houses in Flint had lead pipes from the water mains to the houses. and the water coming out of the Flint river was "harder" than the treated water coming from Detroit. 

as a result, the water from the Flint river dissolved all the deposits that were lining the lead pipes in the houses, exposing the lead pipes to the water, which in turn introduced lead into the water stream. 

even after converting back to Detroit water, they still have lead in the water problems because of the lead pipes in the houses. 

the fix for this is to replace all the lines going from the mains into the houses with copper pipes. 

the issue is, the city is responsible for the mains. but the homeowners are responsible for the pipes from the shutoff box into the house. 

and since the problem with 99% of the houses are between the shut off box and the house, this makes it a homeowner problem. 

 

but the city is stepping up to the plate and replacing the lead pipes with copper at no cost to the homeowner. 

they just do not know how they are going to pay for it all yet. 

Edited May 22, 2017 by tjc transport

[Underdog]

Correlation is not causation, and you haven't even proven correlation.

The mainstream media doesn't have to prove anything. Tell the same lie enough times, it becomes the truth.

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[Mike]

On 5/20/2017 at 9:49 PM, 41chevy said:

That's what happens in a liberal world.

I wonder how many of those people realize over 5000 blacks fought on the side of the CSA and 3200 were slave owners them selves. Quite a few are in the Sons of the Confederacy too.  War is dirty and the liberals don't want to know about that. In Vietnam I led over 100 Zippo raids on villages.In the 1973 War in the Sinai my unit left scorched earth on the way back including many Egyptians. There is a memorial to them  it is not offensive, it is part of history  Remember both sides have a right to honor, not just the "winner".

 

Paul, it is all about them and they want changes no matter what. One day in the distant future all of the Veteran memorobilia will be coming down. Sounds impossible but " Nothing New Under The Sun" quote from Ecclesiastes. Now back to watching and supporting Sports.LOL

[41chevy]

On 5/23/2017 at 5:42 PM, Mike said:

Paul, it is all about them and they want changes no matter what. One day in the distant future all of the Veteran memorobilia will be coming down. Sounds impossible but " Nothing New Under The Sun" quote from Ecclesiastes. Now back to watching and supporting Sports.LOL

See here is the thing that was in my post here that got removed because some one was offended. The  Dems are anti slavery and for black civil  right but the 7 cites run for decades by them have the highest concentration of blacks on welfare and in public housing... for generations. They are the slaves to LBJ's Great Society and are the Dems social progress welfare plantations like Detroit, Chicago, St Louis, Flint and others.

As for eliminating all things that had to do with slavery and slave owners, well you've got to remove the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial, all but Lincoln and Roosevelt from Mount Rushmore and even cleanse our money.

As for Veterans Memorabilia going away. there is a movement from the American Humanities Society to remove all religious markings and symbols from all Military Cemeteries. Crosses, Stars of David and 36 other religious symbols are offensive and violate separation of Church and State according to them. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by 41chevy

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Again, you haven't even proved correlation, never mind causation.

[TDBach]

All I can say is I truly pray for this country.  We have a lot of great people in the world, hard workers, our military, our truckers, ...people who work with their backs every day,  and I hope that people can move forward and cherish the things we have, and learn from the things we did.    I don't get offended easily, until someone attempts to force me to stop wearing a cross, or remove a cross from my grandfather's grave, or starts taking down WWII, Bataan, Vietnam, Korea, or other war memorabilia... and I fully understand that we have racism in this country, but we are all related to someone who fought for our freedoms at some point or another, and we need to embrace those things.   However, tread on what I have worked for in my life...and it's on.    My family is third generation immigrants from Norway and Germany, my great grandfather was the first to come to the U.S., on his side, and my family has not inherited anything, not rich, but worked hard to make a living.  As many others, I have never been "given" anything, except my Mack of course         I respect people's opinions, and will agree to disagree and remain friends...however, we live in a different world where everyone has the opportunity to make something great out of themselves...with a little elbow grease it can be done.  Do we still have discrimination?  Absolutely, we discriminate age, gender, race, culture, status, titles, demographic areas, family names, religious orientation etc.... we will never get rid of discrimination because we are human with tons of differences.    Punish at the time of the crime, and move forward... but I have no sympathy for those who truly can help themselves.  Now, on the other side of this, I worked in the education system a long time ago, and I got to go to an inner city school for internship...   My heart was broken.  The teachers, who were as nice as could be to me... were paying for books and materials out of their own pockets, because their school scores were not high enough to qualify for the government grant funding.   No child left behind my butt..... These poor kids were reading torn, outdated books, no classroom supplies,, very few art, music and physical education supplies, and in a dilapidated building in a high crime area; the kids could not go outside to play because of the drive-by shootings.   The little school provided a "poverty simulation" training for area teachers, and I grew up poor, but did not realize how much I had even being a poor farmer... these little kids, despite what they didn't have...were happy, energetic, and hopeful... hopeful.   If we don't get it together, our country will never advance no matter what color your skin is.   Many impoverished communities are "stuck"   the cycle of poverty is not broken until someone steps in and provides equal employment opportunities, better education resources for teachers...keeping in mind that people also have to help themselves.   But some are stuck so deep in this cycle of poverty that they lose hope, and end up going into survival mode just to stay alive.  Like the old country song "down on your luck"  ... sometimes folks need a little help to get back on their feet, but they have to want to get back up.    I understand that adults have the choice to better their lives...but these poor little kids, no matter their race, didn't have a choice...they are a direct reflection of a part of society that has failed.    So we have areas that are truly struggling because there are no resources for some things.   I can also tell you that my skin color did not matter to the teachers,  they did tell me to pray for them, and it broke my heart, to have to look to a higher power for things they need to change lives....   For the folks making waves in this country....As my grandpa used to say to us kids "you obviously don't have enough work to do because you are still complaining."    Maybe some just don't have enough to do?    Anyway,  this is a great group of folks on here,  and I think we all need a cup of good coffee, an old truck, and an old diner we can go to, just to sit and B.S.,  It would be great to meet ya'all  in person!         We still have a lot to learn...they call it "life" for a reason.    Keep on trucking my friends. 

 

**On a lighter note,  old Gus #9 will have the front clip assembled this weekend!  The windows are giving me a damn run for my money, and if anyone has any tips for getting the window channel and the window in place...please let me know...I am all ears!  I have to repaint the top part of the passenger door because I had a temper tantrum with the window channel and the class...yikes.... time to walk away from it for a day.... 44 days and counting until grandma gets to see old Gus#9!**  The local news paper is going to do a story on the old truck as well**  

Ms. Tracy D.

[41chevy]

22 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Again, you haven't even proved correlation, never mind causation.

makes no sense to you only because you are a "smart Democrat,and I am, as you once called me " a scared, bible clinging,gun carrying white republican vet, whose afraid of your new world order".  

Edited May 26, 2017 by 41chevy

[TeamsterGrrrl]

You describe yourself better than I ever could. But go easy on yourself for being a vet, that's a good quality in a person.

[TDBach]

Update on old Gus #9,  wiring almost done...throttle cable/linkage, with a little engineering by the great Robert...almost done...I got ONE glass window installed and what a damn battle.  I think the glass was a tad...I mean a tad too wide, but it's in, and secure.. now looking for thinner window channel to make the roll-up and down a little easier.  I am really looking forward to assembly!   

This memorial weekend,  I remember my family, all of whom fought and died in or after battle, for this country: 

Great grandpa Arnold: Captured in the Philippines, and died at Camp O'Donnell after surviving the Bataan Death March on May 29th 1942:  U.S. Army, Tech SGT.    
Grandpa Jerry:  Fought in WWII, Blood nose ridge Japan,   Marine Corps 1st Division,   PVT...Purple Heart,
Great Uncle Oran: Fought in WWII, U.S. Army, Infantry, PVT2  (Germany)  Purple Heart
Uncle Rolland: Fought in Vietnam, U.S. Army Infantry, Tank Division, SFC
Great Uncle Steve: Fought in Vietnam, called back in OIF,  Air Force, Pilot, C-5 Cargo, Commander/Captain
Cousin George A.: OIF/OEF/Afghanistan: U.S. Army, Aviation, CH-47D , SSGT  Purple Heart
Grandpa Duane: Fought in Korea,  U.S. Army,  3rd Infantry Regiment, Commander, Purple Heart
Adopted Dad/Father: Dan,  U.S Marine Corps, M.P, SGT.
My husband: Josh,  U.S. Marine Corps, Force Recon, SSGT,  died after 9th combat tour to Afghanistan,  9 combat tours.  Purple Heart  Blown up by and IED and survived, lost 13 and 2 aircraft 

Myself, still alive and well:  U.S. Army Aviation, CH-47D, and Blackhawk Phase Mechanic and Crew Chief,   Bosnia P.K. Mission,  SGT. 

 

Thank all of the veterans for their service...without your service, we would not have the freedom of speech, and other American rights. 

Stand tall, with pride, because there are still some of us who respect you for your sacrifices

 

[41chevy]

12 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

You describe yourself better than I ever could. But go easy on yourself for being a vet, that's a good quality in a person.

That was your description of me. I'm just an American

[HeavyGunner]

2 hours ago, 41chevy said:

That was your description of me. I'm just an American

You're a very fine vet who put his life on the line so people like her can sit back and run their mouths being arm chair quarterbacks about everything. Again people like her like to preach tolerance at others yet have the least of it for someone who has a thought that differs their own. 

Edited May 26, 2017 by HeavyGunner

[HeavyGunner]

Happy Memorial Day to all of our vets. Thank you Paul. 

[TDBach]

Old Gus #9 has been completed and 26 miles on her already.  People wave, give thumbs up when she goes rolling by... oh how my great grandpa and my grandfather would have been proud!  We took it to church on Sunday and had over 30 visitors out to see old Gus.... and a photographer in his 70s who just had to have a few pics of the old girl.  There's nothing better than bringing a community together to watch an old rusted truck come back to life... I couldn't be more proud of it.  Grandma gets to see it in 32 days... 

What an accomplishment in my life I have to say, and I'm extremely thankful for NAPA of Garrison ND, and the Huettl family... bust most of all I'm thankful for the best man in my life besides my grandpas.. Robert.. without him this wouldn't be possible.  

We have to replace a pinion seal, and can now put the battery box cover back on.. and building the bed for it this weekend... 

My next project is the restoration of an old Case tractor for a Vietnam vet in town.. free.. he served our country.. wounded and just wants a nice tractor to show off...  

I will be posting the video of my grandmas reaction on July 8th!  I'm scared to haul it five hours and hope all goes well!  

Ms Tracy D 

[Mike]

I'm out of LIKE'S for today, but it sure do look good. I do have a question tho.....Is the bumper chrome or black? Also if you can find me a women with some Mack skills, would you be kind enough to send her my way? My B Model needs finishing. I'd be nice enough to send her back if need be. OH! and Gus looks mighty proud and I know your Grandfather is.

 

Blessings

Mike

[carlotpilot]

On 3/24/2017 at 3:49 PM, TDBach said:

The Irony in this old truck: (My family is stunned..that's all I can say).  

Ready for this: 

#1: Gus was originally parked in the woods in September of 1971 for good (or so we thought).  Exact date unknown, but September is the 9th month, and Gus's fleet number was #9. I was born 8 years later...7(1+8) = 7(9)   (Grandma's math ha!)  (Gus is 71 years old this year).  

#2. Gus was removed from the woods on August 14th, 2014 and my grandpa came back from WWII on August 14th in 1946 (arrived in CA).
#3. My great uncle's name was "Robert" and his birthday was August 13th
#4. My birthday was also August 13th
#5. We heard Gus try to start on August 13th 2016 and Gus left for North Dakota for restoration on August 14th 2016
#6. I met my "Robert" on July 15th 2016....The Waubun parade is July 15th 2017...the day we are presenting Gus to grandma.    
#7. The Mack sits exactly 46 miles from the place where she was originally purchased for my great grandpa's fleet. 
#8. The tow truck that hauled Gus out of the woods: The last four digits of the towing company's phone number was "1946" Gus is a 1946
#9. I moved to ND in September for a new job: Start date was September 13th 2016......  9/13/16   (Gus was parked in September...and the number 13 keeps coming up!). 

#10. I changed my phone number after I moved to ND, and the first digits of my phone number are 337-67....If you look at the picture of the cab after we started restoration the numbers on the back of the cab say: EGX 3376....ironic?    The cab was broken down in December...my number was changed in September!  

#11.  My great grandpa August (Gus) was born on January 9th....1/9    In the Mack Fleet Picture...my grandpa drove truck #1 and Gus's number is 9....
#12. My grandma's birthday is also Jan 9th  1/9
#13.  After we brought the Mack out to ND, I stopped to get gas at a Cenex in Devil's Lake, and found a penny....the year was 1980....the year my Robert was born.  I kept it! 
#14.  We could not find the key to the Mack's original ignition...so we went to the hardware store in Garrison, and found a key that would  somewhat fit...there were only 9 of those keys left...so Robert didn't want to jinx anything and bought the entire set.  Robert was able to key the first one on the first try =1/9. 
#15.  My grandpa died November 1st 2009     11/1/2009
#16.  My great grandpa Arnold (his dad) was born on November 1st   (All public record!). 

So as my grandma sits and comes up with the ironic nature of old Gus...it often makes a person wonder if it was meant to be....thoughts?  

Tracy  

 

just for grins and giggles    gus and i are the same age -- same birth date as that of you and your uncle rob       so who said 13 was unlucky





 

 

[TDBach]

 awesome!!

[TDBach]

2 hours ago, Mike said:

I'm out of LIKE'S for today, but it sure do look good. I do have a question tho.....Is the bumper chrome or black? Also if you can find me a women with some Mack skills, would you be kind enough to send her my way? My B Model needs finishing. I'd be nice enough to send her back if need be. OH! and Gus looks mighty proud and I know your Grandfather is.

 

Blessings

Mike

Ha!  Mike!  Thanks..we are pretty proud of it!  What type of finishing does your old Mack need?  

Maybe I could help!  Oh we are finishing the bumper and it was originally green... I think it will stay  green.  

Tracy

[Timmyb]

You guys have done an awesome job on old gus. Looks fantastic! Hope you get many years of good times from it. Enjoy!

[Mike]

14 hours ago, TDBach said:

Ha!  Mike!  Thanks..we are pretty proud of it!  What type of finishing does your old Mack need?  

Maybe I could help!  Oh we are finishing the bumper and it was originally green... I think it will stay  green.  

Tracy

Thanks, your mighty kind for the help, but ole Mack needs parts painted and some powder coating and the list goes on.

[j hancock]

Looks Great!

[TDBach]

1 hour ago, Mike said:

Thanks, your mighty kind for the help, but ole Mack needs parts painted and some powder coating and the list goes on.

Ya, they tend to have long lists!  I went to paint and body school so over the years I've painted for Toyota and a few body shops.. my specialty is welding and painting.  I'm getting back into the business and putting in a paint booth because there is a ton of work flowing in... and I'm a woman ha!  My goal is to make the painting cheaper for people on a restoration budget and still give them a high quality paint job.. I have a case tractor to do next, a 46 Chevy dump truck, a 49 Chevy 1/2 ton and a 53 Chevy truck in line already.. my poor old Twin City tractor has to take a back seat for a while! 

I love this business because the final outcome is worth every penny!  

Let me know if I can help in any way! 

Tracy

[Mike]

2 hours ago, TDBach said:

Ya, they tend to have long lists!  I went to paint and body school so over the years I've painted for Toyota and a few body shops.. my specialty is welding and painting.  I'm getting back into the business and putting in a paint booth because there is a ton of work flowing in... and I'm a woman ha!  My goal is to make the painting cheaper for people on a restoration budget and still give them a high quality paint job.. I have a case tractor to do next, a 46 Chevy dump truck, a 49 Chevy 1/2 ton and a 53 Chevy truck in line already.. my poor old Twin City tractor has to take a back seat for a while! 

I love this business because the final outcome is worth every penny!  

Let me know if I can help in any way! 

Tracy

By the time you get through with those projects, i'll probably be grayer hair than now. LOL Bout the best thing I can do is fix a mean breakfast and dinner. And I thought you were older than 13.   

[TDBach]

1 hour ago, Mike said:

By the time you get through with those projects, i'll probably be grayer hair than now. LOL Bout the best thing I can do is fix a mean breakfast and dinner. And I thought you were older than 13.   

37 ha!