james j neiweem Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Can a Granite be spec'd to match a Titan. Minus the MP10 of course. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yes you can even get the rawhide interior and appearance package . One thing I'm not sure of is if a Granite can be ordered with the most powerful MP8 505 C+ with the 1860 torque. Other than that yes heavy front and rear axles and I actually think the frame options were the same . I don't care for the granites big rubberized fender flares other than I like them and could be swayed to get one if the price was lower than a bigger kw,westernstar,or Pete. I'm pretty sure a Granitewith all the bells and whistles would be more than a other kind of truck with a 15 or 16 liter motor . That's the problem . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-359988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm not a fan of Freightliner, but my next truck may be a Western Star. Unless things start happening. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 You mean like Volvo getting their head out of their arse. No indication that will happen. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Macks telling us we don't need anything bigger than a Granite with a 13 liter motor always makes the buyer want to go buy a big Western Star or Kenworth just to defy them and tell them to stick it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, logtruckman said: Macks telling us we don't need anything bigger than a granite with a 13 liter motor always makes the buyer want to go buy a big Western star or Kenworth just to defy them and tell them to stick it The culture at Volvo and in Europe is that Volvo tells the customer what they need. Versus, in America, the fleet large or small tells the truckmaker what they want. Thus, it's not the least surprising that Volvo doesn't listen to its American customers, nor its U.S. dealer body. You all are supposed to remain quiet and listen to Volvo's lecture. It's not supposed to be an interactive event. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: The culture at Volvo and in Europe is that Volvo tells the customer what they need. Versus, in America, the fleet large or small tells the truckmaker what they want. Thus, it's not the least surprising that Volvo doesn't listen to its American customers, nor its U.S. dealer body. You all are supposed to remain quiet and listen to Volvo's lecture. It's not supposed to be an interactive event. That's why macks market share is under 10 percent 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Unfortunately the manufacturer specced truck is taking over, Volvo's sales are lagging Daimler's because Daimler has done a better job of conning their customers into it, and their customers are less sophisticated than Mack's. Used to be that fleet maintenance and purchasing were done by someone with a background as a mechanic or driver, and they new exactly what components worked and specced them. Now days fleets are run by MPAs and even lawyers, and they think it's normal for a truck to be scrapped after 10 years and spend much of that 10 years in the shop. Their buying decisions are driven by lowest price and maybe MPG, and they consider rapid depreciation a good thing... 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I may be unsophisticated, but I'm on the winning team. Freightliner/Western Star/Detroit will still build me any spec I want, LOL. Any size sleeper with any size motor. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Teamster Grrrl a return to the "planned obsolescence" of the late 70s American cars only with a 180k price tag! Makes perfect sense (to them)😁 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbfwilson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Is it possible to built a Granite with a Neway ADZ air ride 46 or 52 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 If I could only get a CL or Titan glider kit.............. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, jbfwilson said: Is it possible to built a Granite with a Neway ADZ air ride 46 or 52 ? Call the truck sales staff at Watts Mack (1-888-304-6225) and ask. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Call the truck sales staff at Watts Mack (1-888-304-6225) and ask. Can they get me a glider? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dirtymilkman said: Can they get me a glider? Lol That they can not, because Volvo Group doesn't believe in gliders, an American concept. It will be interesting to see if Trump's EPA rolls back the GHG plan. Fitzgerald might continue producing them past 2021. Thank goodness EPA head Gina McCarthy is gone. She made Margaret Hamilton look like the "good" witch. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullheaded Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, jbfwilson said: Is it possible to built a Granite with a Neway ADZ air ride 46 or 52 Yes 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: That they can not, because Volvo Group doesn't believe in gliders, an American concept. It will be interesting to see if Trump's EPA rolls back the GHG plan. Fitzgerald might continue producing them past 2021. Thank goodness EPA head Gina McCarthy is gone. She made Margaret Hamilton look like the "good" witch. No kidding, we don't need activists in government. We need people that can figure out the happy medium. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Don't see what the big deal is in building a cab and chassis, and when it gets to the end of the assembly line, pull it out into the parking lot with a fork lift. Daimler and Paccar have it figured out. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Fitzgerald is going to be tied up building those hydrogen hybrid trucks for Ryder. You really think they will roll back this 300 unit cap on gliders. Who do you think sent more money to Washington, the truck manufacturers or the glider shops? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48547-heavy-specd-granite/#findComment-360535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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