mowerman...

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Get your facts straight- I'm not a minority person and had to work my way up the seniority list like everyone else. Are you guys liars or just dumb?

[david wild]

I told her before she needed a hobby, I even suggested Russian roulette, but then again I like banter, it reminds of how stupid the left is.

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, david wild said:

I told her before she needed a hobby, I even suggested Russian roulette, but then again I like banter, it reminds of how stupid the left is.

But she has a hobby, setting us all straight about our being A holes and pushing the liberal view and the all powerful unions. (Hoffa now loves PRESIDENT Trump, must be following the smell of money) At least your all are included as liars now and not just my wife and I .

Edited February 2, 2017 by 41chevy

[mrsmackpaul]

2 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Get your facts straight- I'm not a minority person and had to work my way up the seniority list like everyone else. Are you guys liars or just dumb?

I dunno about the rest of them but Im just dumb I think

 

And now a dumb question if I may what is  "the seniority list" ????? and this is a serious question as I have never seen that before 

 

Paul

[Brocky]

Paul

A "seniority list" is a listing of your hire date. Supposedly under union rules it allows you to move up to easier/better paying positions the longer you have been in service with a company. Minority "affirmative action" regulations tend to bend these out of shape.

[41chevy]

2 hours ago, Brocky said:

Paul

A "seniority list" is a listing of your hire date. Supposedly under union rules it allows you to move up to easier/better paying positions the longer you have been in service with a company. Minority "affirmative action" regulations tend to bend these out of shape.

And with seniority it is difficult if not impossible to get rid of you if you should be redundant, a minority, a woman  or a screw up. Low person goes senor stays.

[TeamsterGrrrl]

You just admitted that you think a worker should be fired just because they're a minority or woman.

[41chevy]

Crawl out of your pit of anger and stop ASSuming what you want to hear.

If they can't or won't do their job, a man, woman, black white red or yellow, gay,straight or anything else, christian,muslim,jew or agnostic the minority status should mean nothing. You said we are all equal  so are we or not? Or are some more equal to others? Just because you have seniority and can't / won't do the job, you should keep it? Chairman Mao would be proud.

[Brocky]

30 minutes ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

You just admitted that you think a worker should be fired just because they're a minority or woman.

WOW!!  That is about the most bassackward way of twisting someones words around to meet your own opinion that I have ever heard!!!

[steve p]

some one give her $1.50 so she can have a root

[mrsmackpaul]

8 hours ago, Brocky said:

Paul

A "seniority list" is a listing of your hire date. Supposedly under union rules it allows you to move up to easier/better paying positions the longer you have been in service with a company. Minority "affirmative action" regulations tend to bend these out of shape.

Thanks Brocky  I am floored at this so just because you have been there a long time you get promoted and not because your any good 

No reason for someone young to try hard as you just hang around for a while and you get promoted anyway no matter how unsuited you are or maybe I have miss read this all 

 

Paul

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Seniority rarely gives one promotions. Seniority normally only determines who gets laid off first, first pick of runs and vacations, etc.

[Underdog]

You just admitted that you think a worker should be fired just because they're a minority or woman.

They get hired just because they're a minority or woman. Just sayin'.

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Where? I've never seen that happen.

[Hobert62]

Our bakery had no female production workers for many years.   It was all white males.     With our production of state facility bread such as schools they started to bring up the lack of minorities.     Once all this started females where brought into the production floor.   When they where hired they where given seniority dates of when they applied and not hired.      Some had a hire date of several years before they where actually hired.   The one good thing is we are still proud to be union free!

[Keith Pommerening]

53 minutes ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Seniority rarely gives one promotions. Seniority normally only determines who gets laid off first, first pick of runs and vacations, etc.

I agree with you.  Union do not reward better workers, they bring the best workers down to the level of the poorest workers.  Isn't socialism just great!  Thanks,  Keith

[Brocky]

1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Where? I've never seen that happen.

I guess TeamsterGrrrl has forgotten about all the Affirmative Action laws / programs that her bleeding heart liberal left wingers instituted in the 1980's!! Of coarse she probably believes that these were a natural occurrence??

[TeamsterGrrrl]

In the 80s? That was the Reagan administration!

[j hancock]

AA was part of an EO by JFK in 1961 and continued by EO with LBJ.  Gender was included in the late 60's.

[Brocky]

Jim

Thank you for the date correction. I just did not think it started so soon after MLK started his equality movement.

Edited February 2, 2017 by Brocky

[41chevy]

 

7 hours ago, Underdog said:

They get hired just because they're a minority or woman. Just sayin'.

According to labor statistics in 1975 women made up 1% of the truck drivers and owner operators, you may have climbed the seniority list by your hard work but being a minority gave you hiring preference.   As a  female company owner you should well know that having minorities helps for getting contracts from  towns, states and the feds. An entirely minority owned company is a shoe in most times. Yes seniority is a fine thing, but if I have a specific job and the person I hired a month ago can do it better and quicker than a long term employee of mine guess who get to do the job. If the employee with "seniority" whines about it, he can stop his whining and play nice or find a new place to work. I expect results and performance. I make money, my employees make money with raises, bonuses and other rewards. The all have insurance and their families, the all have vacation time and I keep them working 12 months a year.  We are proudly non union and 90% of my people have been with me 15 or more years. Race, religion or "connections" mean crap. I chose who gets what jobs on ability nothing else. My business, my money, my rules, want. I've had your Teamster blow up rats at a few of my jobs and not one of my employees gave them the time of day,. Ask them if the want to be unionized and 99% of them say no.

Now you can call me more names, PM Barry to bitch that I attack you or what ever else a liberal shill does when confronted with someone who "screws the union credo and liberal beliefs".

Edited February 2, 2017 by 41chevy

[Hobert62]

16 minutes ago, 41chevy said:

 Yes seniority is a fine thing, but if I have a specific job and the person I hired a month ago can do it better and quicker than a long term employee of mine guess who get to do the job. If the employee with "seniority" whines about it, he can stop his whining and play nice or find a new place to work. I expect results and performance. I make money, my employees make money with raises, bonuses and other rewards. The all have insurance and their families, the all have vacation time and I keep them working 12 months a year.  We are proudly non union and 90% of my people have been with me 15 or more years. Race, religion or "connections" mean crap. I chose who gets what jobs on ability nothing else. My business, my money, my rules, want. I've had your Teamster blow up rats at a few of my jobs and not one of my employees gave them the time of day,. Ask them if the want to be unionized and 99% of them say no

Are you hiring?

[TeamsterGrrrl]

1 hour ago, 41chevy said:

I am neither a company owner nor a minority... What other "alternative facts" have you made up?

According to labor statistics in 1975 women made up 1% of the truck drivers and owner operators, you may have climbed the seniority list by your hard work but being a minority gave you hiring preference.   As a  female company owner you should well know that having minorities helps for getting contracts from  towns, states and the feds. An entirely minority owned company is a shoe in most times. Yes seniority is a fine thing, but if I have a specific job and the person I hired a month ago can do it better and quicker than a long term employee of mine guess who get to do the job. If the employee with "seniority" whines about it, he can stop his whining and play nice or find a new place to work. I expect results and performance. I make money, my employees make money with raises, bonuses and other rewards. The all have insurance and their families, the all have vacation time and I keep them working 12 months a year.  We are proudly non union and 90% of my people have been with me 15 or more years. Race, religion or "connections" mean crap. I chose who gets what jobs on ability nothing else. My business, my money, my rules, want. I've had your Teamster blow up rats at a few of my jobs and not one of my employees gave them the time of day,. Ask them if the want to be unionized and 99% of them say no.

Now you can call me more names, PM Barry to bitch that I attack you or what ever else a liberal shill does when confronted with someone who "screws the union credo and liberal beliefs".

 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

1 hour ago, Hobert62 said:

Are you hiring?

How's the pension? Health insurance?

[41chevy]

Insurance through the New York Health Plan Market Place, pension is 125 per month Roth on top of their contribution. Small cost to keep good employees.

 EEOC requires  "that extra effort must be made to include qualified women, minorities, employees over 40, and the disabled in job categories where they are under represented."

 

You couldn't work for me, I don't hire union.

Edited February 2, 2017 by 41chevy