FWIW

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, HeavyGunner said:

The contrarian has spoken so it must be true. Lol. Hatcity I hadn't heard the SoCal babies wanted to secede. Let Mexico dtraighten them self importan a-holes out. I'd also love to know how a bankrupt state gives back more than it receives. Yeah right I forgot things are always better in la la land. 

There is a much better way to do it. AND Cali gets their wish to leave the Deplorable U.S.A., the sanctuary state problem is taken care of, Mexico gets one of their wishes granted,  the wall gets paid for,  most of the illegals are gone and the Dems lose a ton of Electoral College votes and even some spending money for the Fed.  . . .

[HeavyGunner]

1 hour ago, 41chevy said:

There is a much better way to do it. AND Cali gets their wish to leave the Deplorable U.S.A., the sanctuary state problem is taken care of, Mexico gets one of their wishes granted,  the wall gets paid for,  most of the illegals are gone and the Dems lose a ton of Electoral College votes and even some spending money for the Fed.  . . .

Sounds like everybody wins. 

[41chevy]

1 hour ago, HeavyGunner said:

Sounds like everybody wins. 

The common historical view is that the United States “conquered” California along with Texas and the rest of the Southwest in the Mexican “war of aggression” of 1846-48. We acquired California as part of the Mexican “cession” in the 1848 Treaty of Guadelupe-Hidalgo. The U.S. paid Mexico $15 million for this territory. So, we cede California back for, say, $4.15 Billion (what $15 million in 1848 dollars is worth today)? The proceeds would pay for the border wall after all. California wouldn’t need to be a “sanctuary state” for Mexican illegals, it would be part of Mexico again. 

Edited February 16, 2017 by 41chevy

[BillyT]

Being largely apolitical, I wasn't even aware anyone wanted to secede! I do read labels however and have discovered that virtually every product I use in my workshop and most of the components in every product I buy or would  ever hope to buy have been found to be carcinogenic by the state of California!...why aren't they all dead! Perhaps Sen.Polosi  should review her eighth grade geology text 😁

[BillyT]

41,think of  the unintended consequences of California becoming part of Mexico again!. Then all the car plants we have "offshored" to Mexico might be forced to incorporate the many b.s. additional emissions devices exclusive to California vehicles that have made all my fellow gearheads cringe!😁

[41chevy]

21 minutes ago, BillyT said:

41,think of  the unintended consequences of California becoming part of Mexico again!. Then all the car plants we have "offshored" to Mexico might be forced to incorporate the many b.s. additional emissions devices exclusive to California vehicles that have made all my fellow gearheads cringe!😁

Don't think for a minute that the Mexican Government would put up with the "gringo" crap  at all.