Popular Post DSCannon Posted February 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2017 I'm surprised the SuperEconodyne package isn't a big seller. We talked with a few of the guys at one of the training sessions and they stated only about 130 were sold last year. Compared to Volvo's XE package which is selling at around 30%. Seems like some owners would want better fuel economy. If you're afraid of a 2 series rear axle ratio use a T318LR in place of the 12spd mDrive. The 318LR has a 16.4:1 first gear vs the 11.7:1 mDrive. Of course the automated mDrive is the only thing offered with the package, however a good driver in a manual can easily out drive the computer by paying attention to engine revs and shift points. Some other interesting items we found out: The smaller Mack cab is 2% more aerodynamic than Volvo's cab. This is due small "A" pillar width and curved windshield. The SuperEconodyne is available with CRD125/126 axles. In-house testing shows 1% less fuel than Meritor. This one surprised me, the Maxitorque transmissions are actually 1% more efficient than an mDrive. Hopefully more owners will take a look at some of the fuel economy benefits Mack can offer. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeamsterGrrrl Posted February 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2017 Kinda confirms my suspicions- The Super Econodyne makes sense, but a good driver with a Maxitorque can beat the Volvo AMT. Same with the rear axles- It's hard to beat the near perfect driveline angles and low parasitic power losses of Mack axles. And now we find that the Mack cab is slipperier than Volvo's, despite being a decade older! 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-362861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Kinda confirms my suspicions- The Super Econodyne makes sense, but a good driver with a Maxitorque can beat the Volvo AMT. Same with the rear axles- It's hard to beat the near perfect driveline angles and low parasitic power losses of Mack axles. And now we find that the Mack cab is slipperier than Volvo's, despite being a decade older! Key words....... GOOD DRIVER 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-362865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Was anyone aware that the UPS Pinnacles of the last few years are MP7 405SE (SuperEconodyne) engines with 10speed fuller transmissions. You can get the engine without the Mdrive. They go like heck when we road test them. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-362890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 a .71 od with 2.64 gears guess you riding around in 16 and 15th gear alot Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-362894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSCannon Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Actually if spend most of your time in 16th gear on a T318 you'll gain an additional 1% in fuel economy due to direct drive ratio. Same concept as mDrive direct drive box or Eaton 10 spd FR directs. 9th in a 10 spd, 11th in a 13 spd and 16th in a 18 spd are all direct drive gears (of course in an OD box) and will save additional fuel. Volvo has package "take me back home" where you run in 11th loaded (direct) to save fuel and 12th unloaded (OD) for speed. Mack doesn't offer. A good driver can keep in direct most of time with 2 series axle ratio. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-362940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
upsman Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 2/28/2017 at 10:23 AM, bbigrig said: Was anyone aware that the UPS Pinnacles of the last few years are MP7 405SE (SuperEconodyne) engines with 10speed fuller transmissions. You can get the engine without the Mdrive. They go like heck when we road test them. Only the single axles we got in 2012, everything since is either tandem with dummy axle or full twin screws with mp8's and the mdrive. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-363001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 8 hours ago, upsman said: Only the single axles we got in 2012, everything since is either tandem with dummy axle or full twin screws with mp8's and the mdrive. Not here. The single drive with dummy axle has MP7 405SE Have yet to see any MP8 powered UPS tractor in for dealer work yet. Havn't seen any twin drives up here yet either. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-363052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
upsman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The first ones we got were dummy axles(ride really bad) then we got a run of full twin screws which I got one of those (don't ride quite as bad) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48925-supereconodyne-sales/#findComment-363061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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