love macks Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Gday, can anyone give some advice on fitting a cat 3406b air to air intercooled with a 13 speed roadranger into my rolling r model chassis. It's out of an LTL9000 (dirty rotten Ford). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Gday, can anyone give some advice on fitting a cat 3406b air to air intercooled with a 13 speed roadranger into my rolling r model chassis. Its out of a ltl9000( dirty rotten ford). Doubt it will fit into R600. Hope yours is an R700 long hood. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-362980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 You got my attention with the title 3408. Even a 3406 would be interesting. Post pictures if you have any. They say anything is possible. Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-362982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 The FORD application 3406 motors are canted slightly,like a 673 was in a B-67. So changing that from the get-go is going to be somewhat of a challenge,right off the bat. Like underdog said,hope you're talking an R-700 chassis. The R-600 didn't leave a bunch of extra room under the bonnett for much more than an an E-6,E-7,or the occasional 6V-92,Scania,3208 Kitty-CAT,and the 413 Chrysler (the last 3 engines were in R-400's). Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I would think about setting the cab -hood - radiator off and starting with a clean frame . set my engine trans and cooler apparatus up then tackle making everything fit back around the engine .be a helluva job but can be done 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I have a line on a 3408 which may be going in my superliner at a much later date got to get back to work first to pay for it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back In Black Pulling Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 20 hours ago, 57 bcr said: The FORD application 3406 motors are canted slightly Bell housing has multiple holes in it so it can be up righted , not sure about front mount , been a long time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 11 hours ago, Back In Black Pulling said: Bell housing has multiple holes in it so it can be up righted , not sure about front mount , been a long time. Ah ha. Easier in that department,then. Still a task. Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Josephs in NH has a superliner thats need a cat engine for sale every thing else is there. wont fit in r-600 butt r-700 or a superliner. Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Tilting the engine is so it can come back into the cab in a doghouse, and clear the pedals. Is there a doghouse in an R? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 His profile says he is building an R700. Could you fit a 3406 and an air to air intercooler in an R700? That bonnet (hood) is about 12inches longer right? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-363342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
love macks Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Thanks guys, yeah I'm building an R700 with a dog house on the back. At the moment, it is a bare rolling frame. It is going to be a big job, but it will be worth it. It is the mounting of the front engine mount on the cat motor that is of most concern. I'm prob just going to use the ford mounts as much as possibe.The chassis width is the same after the splay.The Ford made a half moon rubber mount. It's just the front one that's annoying me at the moment. I also have scored a fiberglass R model cab for another project. This cab is pretty exciting. The dash lay out is different to any other R model of any type I've seen. The fiberglass cab are a rigid mount, no wrap-around dash, just a panel in the middle on a 45 degree angle. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Could you fabricate the cat mount into the Mack crossmember? Alternatively, I bet there were lots of Macks in the USA that came out with a cat. Maybe some helpful folks on here could point you in right direction? What macks in the USA used a cat engine and r model chassis? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
love macks Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thanks Timmyb,Hopefully someone in the US has one laying on a workbench waiting for me. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Id have a guess that the 3406b was only available in the superliner... And the US superliner didn't use the r model chassis. There was a guy in Perth and a member on this forum who built a rubber duck replica and ended up putting a 3406b in it. So it can definitely be done. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What are the length specs on a USA Superliner vs a R700 hood? I would suspect the superliner hood is just a inch or more longer? I think a 3406 would fit in a R700 hood without much issue. you would need to fab up mounts and such but space should not be an extreme issue. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Checking spec sheets, the Superliner is one inch longer than a R700. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-364482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
love macks Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Thank guys. I didn't know that the US Superliners didn't use an remodel chassis I've got some Mack/roadranger mounts. This should locate the box in the correct position,making the motor when it should be.....hopefully. It wil have a western r700 bonnet on the big banger Thanks again Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48946-3406b-air-to-air-into-r-model/#findComment-365070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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