grayhair Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 8:24 PM, BillyT said: always wanted to see the powertrain on IVOS four engine dragster! This is photo from a magazine cover, but you get the idea. It was called "Showboat." Pretty outrageous machine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Back when nailhead buicks were still plentiful. Funny story. Machine shop I use did a nailhead a few years ago. They guy put it in a '87 Buick Grand National!! Don't really think it was a GNX, but just a clone. He wanted to be different. 2 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Freightrain, in the fifties and sixties when we had the salvage yard, we couldn't give away nailhead Buick engines ! They never wear out! We scrapped all but a couple! Most were 264 and 322. I drove a 55 century and my dad drove a 56 special he had rebuilt from a rollover. I took my drivers test on a 50 straight eight my dad bought new. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 18 hours ago, grayhair said: This is photo from a magazine cover, but you get the idea. It was called "Showboat." Pretty outrageous machine. Ivo ran it reincranted as the Wagon Master Galpen Fords 4 engine Mustang. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Freightrain, in the fifties and sixties when we had the salvage yard, we couldn't give away nailhead Buick engines ! They never wear out! We scrapped all but a couple! Most were 264 and 322. I drove a 55 century and my dad drove a 56 special he had rebuilt from a rollover. I took my drivers test on a 50 straight eight my dad bought new. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 41 I remember reading that Hot Rod article on Ivos quad Buick looked better as a rail! Most of those multi engine drag cars didn't quite run as well as hoped for! I guess you gotta make up for all that extra weight! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted March 22, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2017 "Ohio George" Montgomery built my 2.7 four with modern technology. George drag raced a turbo Pinto with much success. The car hit the Super Stock scene in 1976, and Montgomery raced it until he retired in 1984. It was the last car he drove in competition. The 2.0L plant was making 500 hp with a single turbo 26 lbs. of boost, blowing through a Holley carb. The car racked up lots of divisional wins and a few national event class wins. Best time he ran was .8.93 second at 162 mph. Mine is 2.7 DOHC Ford Fusion Block set up for Methanol. Using a 8 plug cross flow head, using eight injectors with a 4 stage NOx running 40 to 50 of staged boost through a chill cooled intercooler,, vari lift cam, crankcase vacuum pump and Aires 9 to 1 compression pistons. Block and head girdles,ARP Studs and modified for cross bolted mains. Bad luck to mention h.p. but well above Georges 1976 engine. My chassis is certified for sub 7's. 2015 technology 1976 technology, 500 h.p. 5 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayhair Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 6:41 PM, 41chevy said: Mine is 2.7 DOHC Ford Fusion Block set up for Methanol. Using a 8 plug cross flow head, using eight injectors with a 4 stage NOx running 40 to 50 of staged boost through a chill cooled intercooler,, vari lift cam, crankcase vacuum pump and Aires 9 to 1 compression pistons. Block and head girdles,ARP Studs and modified for cross bolted mains. That, Sir, is completely outrageous. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayhair Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) On 3/22/2017 at 6:09 PM, BillyT said: Most of those multi engine drag cars didn't quite run as well as hoped for! I guess you gotta make up for all that extra weight! Yeah, but they're the cat's ass for land speed racing. Four engines worked well for the Summers Brothers., 4 Chrysler hemis, normally aspirated. Went 409 mph in the '60s and their record stood for 40+ years. Incredible that the brothers built their car in the shade of their parents So. California fruit stand. Later got some sophisticated help with an engineer and a wind tunnel but nonetheless a truly incredible accomplishment by these guys. I remember reading a few years ago that the car was being restored and was going to the Henry Ford museum. Here's an old photo and link to a write-up on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenrod_(car) Edited March 24, 2017 by grayhair Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 11 hours ago, grayhair said: Yeah, but they're the cat's ass for land speed racing. Four engines worked well for the Summers Brothers., 4 Chrysler hemis, normally aspirated. Went 409 mph in the '60s and their record stood for 40+ years. Incredible that the brothers built their car in the shade of their parents So. California fruit stand. Later got some sophisticated help with an engineer and a wind tunnel but nonetheless a truly incredible accomplishment by these guys. I remember reading a few years ago that the car was being restored and was going to the Henry Ford museum. Here's an old photo and link to a write-up on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenrod_(car) That was when people with a dream could do it. Here's Mickey Thompsons Challenger I when it was injected .not blown. 4 Pontiac 421 c.i.for his first LSR try. Second is Craig Breedlove Spirit of American being moved from his mom's garage where it was 60% built. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayhair Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, 41chevy said: Here's Mickey Thompsons Challenger I '41, Those are some cool old photos. I wonder if the guy holding the grinder is a young Roland Leong? Whenever I see a picture of the Challenger I think of The Pumpkin Seed even though they have nothing in common except their original time period. The Pumpkin Seed has been resurrected and runs about 280 mph. Not bad for a Ford flathead V8. Here's a photo from 2006. Edited March 24, 2017 by grayhair Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, grayhair said: '41, Those are some cool old photos. I wonder if the guy holding the grinder is a young Roland Leong? The man holding the grinder is Kent Fuller, who was Thompsons go to for chassis work all the way up to Challenger II. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hobert62 Posted March 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-365468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 7:41 PM, 41chevy said: "Ohio George" Montgomery built my 2.7 four with modern technology. George drag raced a turbo Pinto with much success. The car hit the Super Stock scene in 1976, and Montgomery raced it until he retired in 1984. It was the last car he drove in competition. The 2.0L plant was making 500 hp with a single turbo 26 lbs. of boost, blowing through a Holley carb. The car racked up lots of divisional wins and a few national event class wins. Best time he ran was .8.93 second at 162 mph. Mine is 2.7 DOHC Ford Fusion Block set up for Methanol. Using a 8 plug cross flow head, using eight injectors with a 4 stage NOx running 40 to 50 of staged boost through a chill cooled intercooler,, vari lift cam, crankcase vacuum pump and Aires 9 to 1 compression pistons. Block and head girdles,ARP Studs and modified for cross bolted mains. Bad luck to mention h.p. but well above Georges 1976 engine. My chassis is certified for sub 7's. 2015 technology 1976 technology, 500 h.p. That's just amazing to me!..and I thought it was amazing to see two six cylinder Chevy II's turning 11's at Suffolk dragway in the 70's- unheard of for a six cylinder at the time, around here anyway. I had a low 14 second '72 350 Nova and a high 13 second 70 Chevelle SS 396 that I thought were fast- They were fast to me, but they'd be like riding a turtle to Paul and Larry! Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-366756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Here's a picture of the Nova. It's not a good picture, but it's about the only one I have. It was actually blue but you can't tell by this picture! I have no photos of the Chevelle I had, but it looked just like this- dark green, darker green vinyl top, white stripes on the hood and trunk. This one has the cowl induction hood, it's probably got the LS6 454. Mines had the 396/350, which was actually the 402 c.i. big block. And it was bored .030 over, had a Crane cam, 780 Holley, Edelbrock Tarantula intake...it was nice! And this is actually Herb Ketter's picture, but my engine looked just like this- Tarantula intake, the carb. sat a little sideways on it, and I had the same air filter and the same Accel Super Coil ignition.That was about the only air filter option, or the hood wouldn't close. He also had a big block Chevelle, but I think he had a 427. 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-366767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 This is probably the right color for the Nova- 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49166-freightrain-to-the-blue-oval-phone/page/2/#findComment-366770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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