mackey58 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So no camelback no more I take it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-366012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macks in nigeria Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 On 3/30/2017 at 11:33 PM, mackey58 said: So no camelback no more I take it We will miss it out here Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-374901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 They don't push the camel backs but I believe you can still get them on Granites. Does Mack offer Hendrickson suspensions. They should be rugged like camel backs. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-374955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Were still getting Camel back on MR concrete pump Spec trucks Don't know how long that will last! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 How long has the camelback been around. I know B models had it .....Late 40s? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I would say the late 30's/early 40's because it was used on the L models and the heavy duty F models. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Intresting.. think about that for a moment. a Mack suspension that is still used today some 80 years later. its had many changes and upgrades but the concept unchanged. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Carefully designed for proven performance. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, j hancock said: Carefully designed for proven performance. Yup and now there is M ride Exclusive to Mack ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, fjh said: Yup and now there is M ride Exclusive to Mack ! Crappy design for marginal performance. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, j hancock said: Crappy design for marginal performance. TELL IT LIKE IT IS (VOLVO TRASH!) Edited January 14, 2018 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 shop labor rates killed the camelback its a excellent suspension until you pay $100 a hr to replace the bushings or a cracked trunion. The T ride is alot easier to work on with just as good articulation Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Left over extra volvo parts t ride 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 T rides are horrible. Volvo tried making Mack push them here over Camelback. Very, very bad luck in heavy use. They're all going back to Camelback. The t ride was a Hendrickson suspension. I remember Sterling trucks with it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-389713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues. Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I've seen Mack chunks fail in on road applications never overloaded either. Unheard of back in the day I don't know whose building the rears for Mack now but they need to go back to the drawing board. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I thought they were being built in house (Hagerstown) (Volvo?) Go back to Eaton Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kt_Engineer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 1:58 PM, bbigrig said: I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues. Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies. There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs. On 1/23/2018 at 12:15 AM, bts-4120 said: I've seen Mack chunks fail in on road applications never overloaded either. Unheard of back in the day I don't know whose building the rears for Mack now but they need to go back to the drawing board. Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues. Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies. On 1/24/2018 at 7:23 AM, kt_Engineer said: There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs. Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off? Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies. So apparently this exploding issue was a Bolt manufactures fault A Single bolt that holds the gear to the spur shaft! threads were cut wrong or something??? AT least that was what I heard or read somewhere! I have repaired several of these put ( lock tight on the threads ) did that even when we used the good three bolt design! Still like that Three bolts design better ! If it ain't broke don't fix it! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kt_Engineer Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 hours ago, fjh said: So apparently this exploding issue was a Bolt manufactures fault A Single bolt that holds the gear to the spur shaft! threads were cut wrong or something??? AT least that was what I heard or read somewhere! The spur shaft bolt issue was internal threads on the Spur shaft being over-size (during heat-treat process of gears) which doesn't properly allow bolt to reach clamp load. Unfortunately, it was supplier creates issue and not design related. But end of the day it didn't matter to customer who was at fault. Now a process has been put in place to not repeat the mistake. Single bolt design is unique to CRD150/151 carrier family series. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 9:23 AM, kt_Engineer said: There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs. Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off? pinion shaft failure and exiting the side of the housing no air ride pavement princess Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-390965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 My cousin and his best friend (a former master freight driver) never pulled out with less than 96000 gross (in the 73280 days! They never got caught to my knowledge but they did "pay" the Astro had 34000# rears and a lot of drive line stuff wore out plus the aluminum cab structure cracked due to flexing of the frame! My cousin did all his own work so that helped! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-391850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 1/26/2018 at 12:46 PM, kt_Engineer said: The spur shaft bolt issue was internal threads on the Spur shaft being over-size (during heat-treat process of gears) which doesn't properly allow bolt to reach clamp load. Unfortunately, it was supplier creates issue and not design related. But end of the day it didn't matter to customer who was at fault. Now a process has been put in place to not repeat the mistake. Single bolt design is unique to CRD150/151 carrier family series. So I thought I would up date this post a little ! The last diff that I repaired And slathered the bolt with RED locktight lasted approx A year and a half! We replaced that diff with a REMACK Diff That diff lasted 1 Month and a few DAYs !We have since replaced That diff With yet Another REMACK diff at the discretion of the Eservice Guys And Before installation WE Lock tighted the Bolts In Hopes having this poor guy being able to work for a year or so before it blows up again ! 4 Fricking diffs in the time frame of 2 years! Not acceptable in my mind ! Moral of the story! Quit messing with tried and true designs ! Three bolts are better than one! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-406442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Rule #1 Gear fast run Slo cya Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49254-new-truck-order/page/2/#findComment-406457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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