ndvaughn Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Wondering if you guys can help me out. My 2000 Mack CH613 has no top end power. When I first got it it had plenty of power at all speeds. It would got 70 fully loaded into a wind. Now all of a sudden it won't go at highway speed. It's like it's not even trying, it's not blowin smoke, it's not even trying. It just goes about 60 and if I go behind some trees where the wind is shielded it will go up to 65 and then when I get back in the wind drop back down to 60. I've had it in the dealer and they checked it over and couldn't find anything. Of course with not trailer it's not recognizable, but with even an empty trailer it doesn't wAnna get up and go. I'm stumped and it's frustrating, losing money by not getting more loads in a day. I'm running it on a side dump. It has an E7 motor. Any ideas? Could the foot pedal throttle sensor be off or something? Like I said it's not it's not even trying to go faster.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDog Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 When you had it at the dealer they should have checked the fuel pressure at the lift pump, that is always a good place to start. Also check fuel lines and connections for places it could suck air. What are your exhaust temps like when you are having this problem? You could have a boost leak at a silicone boot or at the air to air itself. My experience with the pedal sensor is that it either work or it doesn't. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Would the truck run fine if the lift pump was weak? The truck seems to run excellent, no smoking or missing, just no power. I'm not sure on exhaust gas temps cause i don't have a guage for that. Engine temp is normal, and all filters have been changed. Is there an easy way to check for a boost leak? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, ndvaughn said: Would the truck run fine if the lift pump was weak? The truck seems to run excellent, no smoking or missing, just no power. I'm not sure on exhaust gas temps cause i don't have a guage for that. Engine temp is normal, and all filters have been changed. Is there an easy way to check for a boost leak? yes! you would not notice a miss it would just be doggy with low fuel pressure I Check the fuel pressure change out the fuel filters It can be the pedal how ever not often ( to check that use the cruise buttons!) The other hold out can be the torque limit switch on the trans the wires may be rubbed and shorted together or a faulty switch this will cut the boost in Half so the ECU will not see anything as a problem! If you have no boost gauge GET one! it will tell you allot! Edited April 15, 2017 by fjh Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Where would I install a boost gauge sensor on a 2000 E7 350? Is there already a hole with a plug in it somehow were? Any suggestions on where to get a gauge? Order from dealer? Thanks for for the help Edited April 16, 2017 by ndvaughn Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Where would I install a boost gauge sensor on a 2000 E7 350? Is there already a hole with a plug in it somehow were? Any suggestions on where to get a gauge? Order from dealer? Thanks for for the help The engine hardware is probably already there. The gauge is electronic, just need to purchase the gauge at Mack and have them turn it on in the ECM. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 OR install and after market gauge and plumb in directly to the intake manifold ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 So is this plug on the intake where I can put in a boost sensor? Any reccomendations for an aftermarket gauge? I'd rather put it in myself rather than take it to the dealer if possible. I'd also like an actual dial gauge rather than something that reads off an ECM. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Also, to add to my dilemma, my MPG is down to about 4.3. Could that give any more idea on what my problem could be? If it is low fuel pressure would my MPG go down as well? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 OR install and after market gauge and plumb in directly to the intake manifold ! Yup that will work gauge will be hose not sensor! You likly have a boost leak/ lack of air most times causes poor fuel milage and low power Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-367723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 Been a long time since I posted on this but I hope it brings it back to the top. Well it’s been like a year and a half and I still have the same problem, lack of power. Could the fuel lift pump last the long and still be weak? Truck runs well just gutless at speed, drove today and 60 was tops. Have a body gauge and it shows 20+ pounds. Filters are all good, since the original post have had injectors cleaned and valves set and still same problem. How would I go about checking fuel pressure if it were that? My closest dealer is over an hr away and I’m tired of spending money and not getting the problem fixed. This dog used to growl, now it whimpers..... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRedMack Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 My guess would still be an intake/boost leak. I believe you should be making high 20 to mid 30 pounds of boost. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 We used to check for air leaks by spraying starting fluid on the hoses and charge air cooler while the engine at idle.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 No fuel, no boost Fuel and boost pressures are the main things I check with low power complaints. You need to check your fuel pressure I put a fitting in the fuel galley plug and use 1/4” airline and the air pressure gauge (same as the one in the cab). I use green needle for fuel and orange for boost. It’s not fancy or “techy” but it gets the job done. I like to keep it simple. The fuel galley plug that I use is in the front of the engine, left side, directly in front of the EUPs. Under the AC compressor if you have one. It’s a 1/4” square plug. I use a 1/4 extension and ratchet to remove the plug. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndvaughn Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 Challenger: what should my fuel pressure be at idle and under full throttle? That sounds pretty easy to rig up, I’ll try that once it warms up a bit. Don’t use the truck a lot in the winter and it’s been damn cold lately. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 hours ago, ndvaughn said: Challenger: what should my fuel pressure be at idle and under full throttle? That sounds pretty easy to rig up, I’ll try that once it warms up a bit. Don’t use the truck a lot in the winter and it’s been damn cold lately. Your fuel pressure should be above 60 preferably 70 and should not drop below that under load ! Make sure your tank vents are clear its easy to be fooled by simple shit! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-415715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Aron Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 ndvaugh... Did you ever figure out your problem? I’m having the same issue. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/49548-mack-ch613-no-top-end-power/#findComment-446976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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