Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 Nobody has posted about the Bernie supporter who shot up the GOP softball practice yesterday morning... Funny how these violent politically motivated attacks always seem to come from the "tolerant" left...can't win at the ballot box so they pick up a gun. Then, their buddies try to use the instance to push for MORE gun control. Personally? I think those 2 capitol police officers on security detail for the majority whip controlled their guns quite well...rifle vs pistols and the pistols won. I'm not really a fan of cops, but glad they were there since nobody else was armed. Good guy with a gun remains the single best way to stop a bad guy with a gun. 8 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Far more violent attacks seem to be coming from the right- look at the attack on Muslim women in Portland, Oregon last week that claimed 3 lives. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted June 15, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 What planet are you on? NOBODY on the right claims to support neo-nazis or any other hate group, and those groups are roundly and uniformly condemned by conservatives everywhere. The ONLY people who think those extremists have ANYTHING to do with conservatism are fools like you too stupid to think for yourself. Even Kennedy was assassinated by a socialist, so this is nothing new! The left defends crap like "Shakespeare in the park" with depictions of a Trump assassination. The left spawns comedians who think it's funny to take pictures with a decapitated head made to look like the president...and then cry about how "intolerant" people are when they don't think it's funny. The left writes books and makes movies about killing Bush, and they are applauded for it. Can you imagine the outrage if any of those sorts of thing had been aimed at Obama? The left had to infiltrate T.E.A. Party rallies to make it appear racist or violent, and those leftists were quickly shut down and asked to leave, because that sort of behavior is not and never has been considered "acceptable" by ANYONE on the right. When was the last time a speaker on the left was shouted down or threatened for having the audacity to speak in public? It doesn't happen because if we don't like what somebody on the left has to say, we don't listen to them. If you're a conservative speaker, on the other hand, those on the left who disagree don't think you ought to be able to speak. Constitutional rights seem to only apply to those on the left, and if you don't agree with them you shouldn't even be allowed to live. 8 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Sorry Rowdy, you're so deeply into far right propaganda that you can't see facts anymore. I've seen much more hate speech targeting Obama than Trump, and I despise hate speech no matter who the target. And look at the arsenals of useless for hunting weapons that the right is accumulating, and the poor shadow of same that the "AntiFa" is amassing. Fact is, both sides need to tone down the hate speech and get back to debating issues, and that especially applies to the right. As a moderate who tries to find solutions instead of blindly grabbing and defending the most extreme positions of the left or right, I seriously fear for the future of or democracy. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dirtymilkman Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 When you attack our people, you're no longer on the "left" or "right". You are no longer an American citizen with rights in my opinion. The best thing they did was kill this bastard. And sorry to say Rowdy, maybe one of the people that shot this guy is a left wing gun toter. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but NOBODY has the right to kill them for it. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted June 15, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 "...especially the right..." Now I know you're full of it. Read this shooter's facebook posts and his various letters to the editor that he has submitted over the years. They repeat the exact same load of crap you can hear on CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/etc. You don't think he's an extremist because you have a warped view of what is normal based upon the load of crap the media wants you to believe is the "main stream". Hillary isn't a crook despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. Trump needs to be locked up despite zero evidence of any criminal acts. What do you expect from news networks that allow Clinton's political hacks to masquerade as "non-partisan, non-biased" reporters? But hey, keep buying the load of crap they're selling. The fact of the matter is, you aren't even remotely close to a "moderate". 5 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well, yesterday I "schooled" a public radio reporter for a hit job she did on VW and the TDI scandal. She did not take it well and now refuses to talk with me. So I suspect that as a "lefty" I'm as much a total failure as I am as a "righty". Says something about how polarized our politics has become... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DailyDiesel Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 Guess we forgot about all those tasteful depictions of President Obama being lynched. Or maybe those polite comments about his wife looking like an ape. Or those delightful personal attacks of his daughters. Remember Ted Nugent and his comments? The exact same crap as what Kathy Griffin pulled except they were playing for the other side. The point is this. Both "sides" have their fair share of lunatics who really do not represent the group as a whole. Left or Right. Democrat or Republican. Pro gun. Anti gun. 3 Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted June 15, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 Big difference between a handful of nut jobs being soundly repudiated by others on the right vs the nut jobs being praised, promoted, and rewarded by others on the left. Peruse any "main stream" news source and you'll find "unbiased" journalists spouting the same crap this shooter wrote...which is why they aren't going to dig too deep into this guy's motivations. 3 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 We all have a blind spot. Mine is on the left. Where is yours? Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keith Pommerening Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 Pretty hard to have a discussion with progressives. People who make their decisions with feelings and emotion don't function too well when confronted with wisdom and experience. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Having passed college level stats courses, I guess I'm not allowed to be a progressive... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keith Pommerening Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Having passed college level stats courses, I guess I'm not allowed to be a progressive... So what does your college level stats course tell you Obozocare has done for the average working taxpayer. My stats tells me that when healthcare went from $6,000 to $14,000 a year means I get to keep working til 70. What does those college level stats tell you about who prospered from Obozo's national debt doubling stimulus package. My stats tell me my grand kids and their grand kids get to pay it back. How far do you want to keep going with this.... 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lmackattack Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 13 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Far more violent attacks seem to be coming from the right- look at the attack on Muslim women in Portland, Oregon last week that claimed 3 lives. pull your head out of the sand... 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Keith Pommerening said: So what does your college level stats course tell you Obozocare has done for the average working taxpayer. My stats tells me that when healthcare went from $6,000 to $14,000 a year means I get to keep working til 70. What does those college level stats tell you about who prospered from Obozo's national debt doubling stimulus package. My stats tell me my grand kids and their grand kids get to pay it back. How far do you want to keep going with this.... Most of us become eligible for Medicare at age 65... Problem solved, no need to work 'til 70. Even for those under 65, most are getting their health care through work or government programs and are paying far less than the numbers you state. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 53 minutes ago, Lmackattack said: pull your head out of the sand... https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/12/16/update-1094-bias-related-incidents-month-following-election Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GA_Dave Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Most of us become eligible for Medicare at age 65... Problem solved, no need to work 'til 70. Even for those under 65, most are getting their health care through work or government programs and are paying far less than the numbers you state. Most? MOST people had insurance before this monstrosity called Obamacare became law. I'm retired and under age 65. I pay my premiums out of pocket, over $15,000/year. That only covers 3 visits to a doctor annually, covers very little for an ER visit, and only covers basic, generic medications. One med I am on costs me $5,000/year. Before Obamacare, my premiums were under $1000/month, the deductible was 1/3rd what it is now and it covered way more. Virtually everything the liberals have told us about Obamacare has been a lie! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 A higher percentage of Americans have health insurance thanks to Obamacare. The gap in Obamacare was for folks like you who weren't eligible for any subsidy, weren't part of any group, and live in a state that didn't create their own exchange. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjc transport Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: A higher percentage of Americans have health insurance thanks to Obamacare. The gap in Obamacare was for folks like you who weren't eligible for any subsidy, weren't part of any group, and live in a state that didn't create their own exchange. while this may be true, the real truth to this fact is it is being paid for by others who actually work for a living . get rid of obozocare and let health insurance be run by companies not the government. if you want it pay for it. if you can't pay for it, get off welfare and get a freakin job. 7 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 On June 16, 2017 at 3:59 AM, DailyDiesel said: Guess we forgot about all those tasteful depictions of President Obama being lynched. Or maybe those polite comments about his wife looking like an ape. Or those delightful personal attacks of his daughters. Remember Ted Nugent and his comments? The exact same crap as what Kathy Griffin pulled except they were playing for the other side. The point is this. Both "sides" have their fair share of lunatics who really do not represent the group as a whole. Left or Right. Democrat or Republican. Pro gun. Anti gun. Its not the 'exact' same thing. Griffin is a media figure well-associated with CNN. It gives credence to the notion of liberal-bias news. It was also done in the fashion of DAESH, while possibly not intentional, showed an incredibly horrific level of ignorance. The lynched Obamas were disgusting, and as far as I can gather, was limited to fundamentalist rednecks from the hills, not some well-known comedian associated with a major news network. 1 Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 11 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: A higher percentage of Americans have health insurance thanks to Obamacare. The gap in Obamacare was for folks like you who weren't eligible for any subsidy, weren't part of any group, and live in a state that didn't create their own exchange. The ACA is a failure. Everyone knows it. Only a fool attempts to defend it. It was good at first, but the loser millennials who loved Obama didn't buy insurance. My premiums have gone up 250% since 2014. I live in a strong market with lots of hospitals. It was a joke, many believe it was designed to fail. Do you need to be reminded an idiot like Trump won? He WON! We all were stunned. and it was because of Obamacare. .. this was evidenced in the 2010 Congressional "schlacking" the Dems took... who knew it could carryover and put Trump in the White House? If you can't see that Obamacare doesn't work, take a look at who's in the White House. 2 Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 The ACA is mostly a success, in that more americans than every have health insurance. But the ACA was unable to reel in the runaway inflation in health care costs. There are also a lot of folks who fell through the loopholes in the ACA like yourself. In fixing the ACA, to be successful we must close those loopholes so the insurance companies can't shift charges to folks that don't have the buying power of a group. Repealing the ACA and letting the insurance companies run health care will only make matters worse. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Outbehindthebarn said: Its not the 'exact' same thing. Griffin is a media figure well-associated with CNN. It gives credence to the notion of liberal-bias news. It was also done in the fashion of DAESH, while possibly not intentional, showed an incredibly horrific level of ignorance. The lynched Obamas were disgusting, and as far as I can gather, was limited to fundamentalist rednecks from the hills, not some well-known comedian associated with a major news network. Your opinion of Giffin at CNN is much higher than mine. 2 Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, DailyDiesel said: Your opinion of Giffin at CNN is much higher than mine. No, I don't think so. They thought enough of her influence to fire her for pulling that stunt. 1 Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Outbehindthebarn Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: The ACA is mostly a success, in that more americans than every have health insurance. But the ACA was unable to reel in the runaway inflation in health care costs. There are also a lot of folks who fell through the loopholes in the ACA like yourself. In fixing the ACA, to be successful we must close those loopholes so the insurance companies can't shift charges to folks that don't have the buying power of a group. Repealing the ACA and letting the insurance companies run health care will only make matters worse. I'm sure you think LBJ's War on Poverty has been a success too. If you hope to gain credibility, you have to admit to failing, the ACA has mostly been a failure... Obama's own constituents betrayed him. 3 Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50189-im-surprised/#findComment-372490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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