Popular Post Lmackattack Posted June 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2017 I went in to a local mack dealer today. the lot was filled with brand new Volvo OTR trucks only saw one granite in the lot. polka music playing in the background I kid you not... I went inside and ordered parts. While waiting, I grabbed the 2 brochures showcasing Construction and Highway. Flipping thru them both, I noticed that the only trucks mack listed for construction are the Granite, Terra Pro and Titan.....We all know the Titan is no more and the Terra Pro is just a garbage truck. So that leaves the once leading brand for on/off road trucks with 1 model for construction. Flipping thru the Highway brochure, it shows 1 model with a option for daycab, sleeper and the Rawhide trim package....That's it.. So to sum it up mack has a offerings of 1 highway truck 1 off road truck 1 garbage truck Sad offerings these days. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 [emoji19] Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I guess the new Scania boss is not taking the Volvo reins off of Mack any more than the last bean counter did. I guess the bottom line is Volvo does not want to get pounded in the market place by the green haired step child. Didn't want to offend any red heads. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwfs600 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I figured M&K in Sterling Heights Michigan but I see you're in Chicago. Weigand Mack was probably better than 99% vocational. Now it's can I get you a 780 Volvo comrade? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Did you go to the old Chicago mack in summit if so yea it's very sad joliet isn't much better Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 this was at the Mt Prospect/Desplanes IL M&K dealer... I was the only "American" in the place... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Doesn't matter who they sell Macks to, as long as they sell 'em. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yea I know about the American part was at m and k in summit once while it was still chicago mack wally asked the guy for the Vin and he kept saying "ch 613" then the guy with him had to interpret kinda like the quarries and more yes we aref##ked soon we ll like the Indians on a reservation just my opinion Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Doesn't matter who they sell Macks to, as long as they sell 'em. thats true....but like I said... 30 or so white volvos and 1 or 2 macks on the lot.. We are seeing once very popular Mack branches continue to sell out to no name companies. In return they retain status of a Mack dealer yet there is no presence of Mack to be found. They show case Volvos only. Even the building screams Volvo yet they are a so-called Mack dealer. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, mackey58 said: Yea I know about the American part was at m and k in summit once while it was still chicago mack wally asked the guy for the Vin and he kept saying "ch 613" then the guy with him had to interpret kinda like the quarries and more yes we aref##ked soon we ll like the Indians on a reservation just my opinion What really doomed Mack is isolationism- Volvo and Renault are world wide brands, Mack isn't. Thus Mack is only a tenth of Volvo's truck sales, and pretty much disposable. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 New model coming out soon, stay tuned. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Sure Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, 1958 F.W.D. said: New model coming out soon, stay tuned. lets hope it stands out and is not named after a Golf ball... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I understand that Volvo forced Wiegand to sell there dealership. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I hate to say it but as much as I really like my Mack, if i buy another truck, it will probably be a Paccar. I plan to keep my Mack for a long time yet though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Ezrider said: I hate to say it but as much as I really like my Mack, if i buy another truck, it will probably be a Paccar. I plan to keep my Mack for a long time yet though. Honestly, if you want a paccar you better buy one soon. Most guys I talk to with the new cabs hate them. Dash rattles, tons of electrical gremlins, cheap materialsand so on. My buddy has pieces of cardboard crammed in spaces all over the cab to help alleviate the squeaks and rattles. He also said, even with the vin number he can't get the right parts. There may be 2 or 3 or more choices and they don't know which one it is unless you have the part there. I really think if I didn't go Mack it'll be Western Star. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 KS: I like your comment about who would they turn the reins over to as all of the top management at Mack are probably Volvo guys. Teamster: Maybe disposal would be a good thing. It would have to be someone with a nationwide distributer network like Cat Deere etc. If a deal was made some of the Mack dealerships would have to be part of the deal. Wish in one hand and cow poop in the other. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kscarbel2 Posted June 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2017 If the shareholders of Volvo Group have the Mack brand in their long term plans (?), I would dispense with the present Mack brand leadership and attempt a dynamic new business model (Volvo has nothing to lose). Calling a spade a spade, the state of Mack brand management has been bleak for years, resulting in the entire distributor body being disgusted and disillusioned. Mack has never been run right since Volvo took over. A handful of Mack veterans tried to hang in there, like Kevin Flaherty and Paul Vikner, but their hands were always tied. Denny Slagle* has been the president of Mack since 2008. For nine years, he has failed to return the Mack brand to greatness. The portfolio has never been smaller and sales are stagnant. The Mack brand ranks 6th because it is no longer competitive. Frequent job changer Jonathan Randall is a waste of time. An unqualified Stephen Roy, appointed President of North American Sales & Marketing in 2014, was quickly demoted to watching over Volvo's "uptime" unit. Paraphrasing what Zenon C.R. Hansen said in 1965, Volvo needs to dispense with its unqualified Mack brand management and get others who know something about trucks. ------------------------------------------------ Faced with a total lack of experienced leadership at Mack brand corporate, I suggest Martin Lundstedt reach out to the real North American Mack experts who actually know what's going on. I propose he orchestrate an agreement under which the “Mack Distributor Council” would run the Mack brand. The Mack Distributor Council is composed of the nation’s most savvy Mack distributor principals, people with decades of knowledge and experience. Volvo will never understand the Mack brand and its customer base in the intimate way that they do. Only the members of the Mack Distributor Council know how to unleash the value of the Mack brand. The Mack Distributor Council includes those listed below and many other distinguished individuals: Jim Bland Transource Brian and Chris Bruckner Bruckner Truck Sales Russ Ellett Virginia Truck Center Terry Dotson and Scott Blevins Worldwide Equipment Jim and Rod Maddox Tri-state Truck Center Jon Pritchett NexTran John and Matt Niebauer W.W. Engine and Supply Steve and Scott Parker Baltimore-Potomac Truck Group Nobody is going to make better decisions than the people whose livelihoods depend on the continued success of the Mack brand. The members of the Mack Distributor Council will forget more about Mack than the present individuals in Greensboro will ever know. ------------------------------------------------ * Background - Dennis R. Slagle 1976 – Graduated from West Virginia Wesleyan College with a Bachelor of Science degree ? - Joined Price Waterhouse. 1980 - 1989 Joined the US arm of construction and agriculture machinery maker JCB as chief financial officer 1989 - 1991 Became JCB’s U.S. market vice-president of sales 1991 - 2000 Became president of JCB Inc. (JCB’s U.S. market business unit) 2000 - 2002 Senior vice-president of sales, Volvo Construction Equipment (VCE). 2002 - 2003 President, L.B. Smith 2003 - 2008 President and CEO, Volvo Construction Equipment (VCE). 2008 - 2011 President and CEO, Mack Trucks (succeeding Paul Vikner) 2009 - 2011 President and CEO, North American Trucks unit of Volvo AB 2012 – ? Volvo Group executive vice president for Trucks Sales & Marketing Americas* * Relating to Volvo’s truck business restructuring (http://www.volvogroup.com/group/global/en-gb/newsmedia/pressreleases/_layouts/CWP.Internet.VolvoCom/NewsItem.aspx?News.ItemId=109874) ? - 2/29/2016 President, Volvo Group Trucks Sales North America (removed from the executive board) 3/1/2016 – Present President, Mack Trucks (restored to the new exec board. Demoted to president of Mack, stripped of the Volvo brand, now only responsibility for Mack brand. Former President Stephen Roy demoted to North American Mack sales manager) 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 On 6/19/2017 at 11:34 AM, Dirtymilkman said: Honestly, if you want a paccar you better buy one soon. Most guys I talk to with the new cabs hate them. Dash rattles, tons of electrical gremlins, cheap materialsand so on. My buddy has pieces of cardboard crammed in spaces all over the cab to help alleviate the squeaks and rattles. He also said, even with the vin number he can't get the right parts. There may be 2 or 3 or more choices and they don't know which one it is unless you have the part there. I really think if I didn't go Mack it'll be Western Star. I drove a 2013 pete for a min in 2012 truck had less than 5k miles on it and it already had some squeak and rattles, i agree paccar build quality has really gone down. I do really like how the new ch's look but i think if i were to get another truck i think a 15L engine would be a requirement, im happy with the power running down the highway with my e7-460 but engine break leaves a lot to be desired and off idle tq like for getting it moving crawling out of soft ground at 100k+ i am always greater than 80k when loaded. i really don't plan on getting another truck for at least 5 years and who knows what will be offered at that time, i might even decide its time to hang it up and do something different by then. i would probably be looking at gliders if they are still offered by then. with the e-logs iv thought of getting a 99 - truck before December but everything out there im seeing looks pretty used up just put 14k into a new cam/lifters/rockers ect in this truck so i guess ill just deal with e-logs. Now if it was possible to get a n-14/3406e,6nz shoved in a new CH I'd be drooling. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDiesel Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 What ever you ran into at your dealer can't be worse than what was going on at my local branch the other night. Image sent to me by a friend. 1 Quote www.dailydieseldose.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 KS: Come back to the states and take charge at Mack. And bring the Superliner/Trident with you. Too many poisonous snakes in OZ. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Wonder what Mack could be bought for... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Wow, nasty, looks like the Iraqi Army's "Highway of Death" during the Kuwait retreat.... Start a BigMackTrucks.com Co-op? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Mack Technician said: Wow, nasty, looks like the Iraqi Army's "Highway of Death" during the Kuwait retreat.... Start a BigMackTrucks.com Co-op? I'd pitch in a million, but I think that'd be a drop in the bucket. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Mack needs some low volume type models that fill the holes in the product line. They don't seem interested in doing that . Therefore kw and western star happily fill them . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50203-sad-offerings/#findComment-372905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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