TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Actually, a used truck makes sense for a low mileage local application like a recovery truck. But if you're running over 100k miles a year the fuel cost savings and warranty of a new truck will often pay for the increased depreciation of the new truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post david wild Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 1994 KW 900B aerodyne 370 N14 10spd 8.6 mpg year to date, so much for you new 150k that does not run. 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Did you even hook a trailer behind it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post david wild Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'd bet the 9513 would hold up behind the 300 if you don't abuse it, so that means if you drive it your self you won't have any problem but a hired driver will not have such good outcome. When Jeff Garmon(student of Bruce Mallison) at Sothern Truck Parts was still there he sent us a set of injectors, turbo and pump that we installed in the parking lot of a motel, set injectors outer base, went into 89 Ford LT9000 with 300 Big Cam 4, 9513 and 4.63 rears, hooked it to GE TM2500 15 axles total, 260k plus in July out of Houston, same truck went to Europe and then to Ghana Africa and finally home, fried a few heads, scored a couple injectors but never touched trans or rears, ran 50/50 Lucas in trans and rears, engines was 500+ finally retired truck and sold to a log hauler in AL. So 9513 will stand up to the task if driven right. (Houston to Chicago x 5 trips, on first job) 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I ran a quad behind a 237 for a whole bunch of years with no problems, but I was the only driver. terry 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 All depends on how it's driven 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingblade Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 i run this 84 RW every day it isnt raining,over a million miles on it, Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kansas farmer Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 These are a couple trucks up the road from me. Left is and 85 middle is a 76 I believe and the one on the right is from the 70's also. They run every day coast to coast. The guy that owns the one in the middle is a good friend. His truck has over 3 millions miles and has been rebuilt top to bottom twice. Must be making money or I guess he would do something else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keg1 Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 On June 21, 2017 at 9:37 AM, TeamsterGrrrl said: Some of us know better than to try to make money with an old truck! In my 31 years of driving I was never told a load would pay me more if I bought a newer truck. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Underdog Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 So far my '85 MH build hasn't reached the $10k mark, including a spare parts truck. That doesn't even touch the FET on a new one. Been there, done that. Don't want what they're selling nowadays.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Oh, and by the way, I wouldn't be able to take a month off to build my truck if I had a payment due.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 If you had a newer truck you'd be out makin' money instead. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Kansas farmer said: These are a couple trucks up the road from me. Left is and 85 middle is a 76 I believe and the one on the right is from the 70's also. They run every day coast to coast. The guy that owns the one in the middle is a good friend. His truck has over 3 millions miles and has been rebuilt top to bottom twice. Must be making money or I guess he would do something else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Long hood and no aero= 5 MPG... Could pay for a new 7MPG truck with the fuel savings alone! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Underdog Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 Long hood and no aero= 5 MPG... Could pay for a new 7MPG truck with the fuel savings alone!I fell for that line once... Traded a E9 MH for a brand new 2000 CX. Good truck, but not worth trading my soul to gain 1 mpg on a good day. And all the MPG in the world would not cover the downtime I have seen with anything newer than 2004. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 If you had a newer truck you'd be out makin' money instead.You'll never understand... It's not all about money all the time. I can afford to take a month off. And I will return to work doing what I enjoy. Can't say that about the job I left. Maybe a snowflake liberal college professor would call it a sabbatical.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yup, I understand... Some of you guys can't get a loan on a new truck and wouldn't last through breakfast working at McDonalds or WalMart, never mind have enough discipline to make it through probation at UPS. You slept through math class so you can't work out your CPM and figure out how much money you're losing, so you can't afford to get your truck fixed properly so you bodge repairs yourselves. And instead of admitting your own failures and upping your skills for the 21st century, you blame the EPA, blacks, DOT, immigrants, Volvo, Moslems, "liberals", Hillary, Obama, and a couple more I probably forgot for your problems. There are truckers out there buying new trucks and more new trucks, because they know how to run a business and get 8 and even 9 MPG. The railroads make your productivity look like a joke, same with the towboat and container ship companies. To them you're the "independent" dummy who will haul the load the last miles to the loading dock for peanuts, while they rake in the big bucks. And you think you're so smart... Heck, I've never owned a big truck and have probably made more money from transportation stocks than you're truck ever made with your truck, especially if you figure pay by the hour! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nwfs600 Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 We have a new Mack. It does pencil 4 cents a mile cheaper than the 2010 Peterbilts. I have 7 paid for trucks and 3 payments. I would buy a new truck for every decent driver I could hire. The man that drives the other Pete is a great hand. He treats MY truck like it was his own. Trucking with old iron that is easy to maintain and dependable is not a foolish endeavor. I went through my Ford bumper to mudflap. I replaced a 194 bulb in one year of service besides oil changes and grease jobs. I farm too and would rather sit on an open station tractor and smell the dirt. Some of us don't need to make a billion dollars to be happy. The land is in my blood just like the road is. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carlotpilot Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 16 hours ago, Truck Shop said: I put a Holmes 750 on it and I believe it was converted to a Holmes 1701 and it resides in Sandy, Or. Pic of it with the Holmes 750. Didn't mean to high jack your thread Casper. Truck Shop 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck Shop Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: Long hood and no aero= 5 MPG... Could pay for a new 7MPG truck with the fuel savings alone! Except you left out some major calculations. Cleaning the DPF filter and replacement will eat a hole in the diesel savings. Your lucky to break even on fuel savings after dealing with that. That is the #1 gripe even with big fleets and that maintenance is the same weather you own one or a hundred. Lose the [ONE box as it's called in a Freightliner] and you just dropped 10 grand. So actually you really don't understand. My last reply on this subject. Truck Shop 2 Quote One ping only Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Underdog Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 Key words "I've never owned a truck" you said it yourself, teamster... I've owned new and old for the last 20 years and I've made my choice on what works for me. Or maybe you weren't paying attention when I said that 10 times already. I'm not blaming anyone for my troubles. I am being proactive at taking care of myself and my family. Isn't America great that every individual has that opportunity? Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Casper1988 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 13 hours ago, david wild said: I'd bet the 9513 would hold up behind the 300 if you don't abuse it, so that means if you drive it your self you won't have any problem but a hired driver will not have such good outcome. When Jeff Garmon(student of Bruce Mallison) at Sothern Truck Parts was still there he sent us a set of injectors, turbo and pump that we installed in the parking lot of a motel, set injectors outer base, went into 89 Ford LT9000 with 300 Big Cam 4, 9513 and 4.63 rears, hooked it to GE TM2500 15 axles total, 260k plus in July out of Houston, same truck went to Europe and then to Ghana Africa and finally home, fried a few heads, scored a couple injectors but never touched trans or rears, ran 50/50 Lucas in trans and rears, engines was 500+ finally retired truck and sold to a log hauler in AL. So 9513 will stand up to the task if driven right. (Houston to Chicago x 5 trips, on first job) That was my next question assuming this is a 9513 Tranny rated at 950. I think the 300L motor has 1100 or so ft/lb's at 1750 rpm's. I think with a easy driver like me it would be fine. I tend to be on the cautious side as I turn my own wrenches on my stuff. Everybody is there own man and does what they think is right, glad this site is here cause the info is helpful to me. Out the door to go make some money with my old truck. Happy Friday all. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper1988 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 a Also wondering about the Lucas additive, Is that stuff used alot in the trucking world or just a personnel thing. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper1988 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Truck Shop said: Except you left out some major calculations. Cleaning the DPF filter and replacement will eat a hole in the diesel savings. Your lucky to break even on fuel savings after dealing with that. That is the #1 gripe even with big fleets and that maintenance is the same weather you own one or a hundred. Lose the [ONE box as it's called in a Freightliner] and you just dropped 10 grand. So actually you really don't understand. My last reply on this subject. Truck Shop I love looking at older iron, no worries. Gets the day started right. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ezrider Posted June 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2017 from reading this thread i guess i got it all wrong my now 17 year old truck that has had nearly 100% up time (a cumulative total of less than 3 weeks down time due to repairs in during my ownership), iv had it near the time cycle of a mega's trade in cycle, has costs me less than half the purchase cost of a new truck including purchase price up fitting all repairs including wear and all wear and tear items such as breaks and tires that you would have to pay for even on a new truck. but yet old trucks cant make money. hum ok. oh and lets not forget how much money im wasting in fuel, my truck gets the same if not better fuel millage as the new trucks doing the same work as i do. oh and i have not had one emissions related problem with my truck and i don't have to buy def. glad some people know more than me i better go to the bank and get a loan for a bran new truck i never realized i cant make money with a old truck, oh wait i forgot i cant get a loan for a bran new truck according to some people (i only have a established business a 780 credit score and enough cash in the bank to put over %50 down on a new truck make that 75% down if you count already billed out receivables and more than double the cost of a new truck in potential collateral to secure a loan) 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 A 2000 model isn't quite an "old truck" yet. Macks and any well built machine with proper maintenance have a reliable service life of at least 20 years... Please give is an update after 2025. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/3/#findComment-373339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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