ws721 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 10:42 AM, TeamsterGrrrl said: Actually, a used truck makes sense for a low mileage local application like a recovery truck. But if you're running over 100k miles a year the fuel cost savings and warranty of a new truck will often pay for the increased depreciation of the new truck. I have just 1 question for you. Have you EVER run your OWN truck? Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: A 2000 model isn't quite an "old truck" yet. Macks and any well built machine with proper maintenance have a reliable service life of at least 20 years... Please give is an update after 2025. Maybe by the yr. 2025 that easy job you had at ups will have been replaced by robots . But my old stuff will still be going. Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ws721 Posted June 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 6:35 AM, Casper1988 said: a Also wondering about the Lucas additive, Is that stuff used alot in the trucking world or just a personnel thing. Thanks. I do not trust "miracles" in a bottle. BUT, I am a true believer in Lucas products 4 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I will say for you guys who cant or dont work on your own truck that you are screwed if you have a new truck or a old truck.I am talking about a truck that holds down a full time job ever day 5 or 6 days a week.Any of them need a ever day look over and if you keep it up so it will pass a dot inspection you will need a good paying job.Freightliner and KW here charge 145.00 per hour for labor and with a old trucks many of the guys working on them are not that old.If you know and can work on your truck like i and others then its not so bad.What happens so many times is you get in to a old truck cheap and by the time you get it road worthy it too late to bale out and then you keep spending money on it till you or it gives up.I know i have one that i run and its the same way.But it hauls same weight ever day as the new ones.It just not down ever other week at the dealer for a no gen problem. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 7:40 AM, theakerstwo said: Duct tape has its place some times. 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 We run R and RD models hauling gravel to the yard everyday eight loads a day each 45 mile round trip per load. Our old trucks run the most miles all day while the CH and visions haul manholes and pipe less than half the mileage our old R do and we have less problems with the old trucks. Our oldest is an 87 and mine is the newest and its 17 years old if I were an owner operator give me an old superdog or R model any day over a vision. I'm not big on having to have the air ride and other niceties just a good reliable mechanical engine truck that most old school guys like me can work on and don't need an engineering degree. Most guys forgot what makes the money is plain simplicity these kids who cant run a truck unless its got 500 or better horses under the hood and cold AC are not real truck drivers most couldn't jury rig a truck to cripple it back in the shop now they have to be rescued with a wrecker. I can get down off my soap box now I have expressed how I feel about the new age "trucker" 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, theakerstwo said: I will say for you guys who cant or dont work on your own truck that you are screwed if you have a new truck or a old truck.I am talking about a truck that holds down a full time job ever day 5 or 6 days a week.Any of them need a ever day look over and if you keep it up so it will pass a dot inspection you will need a good paying job.Freightliner and KW here charge 145.00 per hour for labor and with a old trucks many of the guys working on them are not that old.If you know and can work on your truck like i and others then its not so bad.What happens so many times is you get in to a old truck cheap and by the time you get it road worthy it too late to bale out and then you keep spending money on it till you or it gives up.I know i have one that i run and its the same way.But it hauls same weight ever day as the new ones.It just not down ever other week at the dealer for a no gen problem. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 9:05 AM, Freightrain said: I've typed so many things in this post but deleted them all. I won't let a narrow minded person knock me down to their level and beat me with experience. I know exactly what you're saying, me too!..but i'm just an old white guy, uneducated, non-union, living in the past- gotta go check on the slaves now, later! 1 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg1 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 On June 22, 2017 at 9:07 PM, TeamsterGrrrl said: If you had a newer truck you'd be out makin' money instead. Or at the dealer with the hood tipped wondering why it won't run. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 A 2000 model isn't quite an "old truck" yet. Macks and any well built machine with proper maintenance have a reliable service life of at least 20 years... Please give is an update after 2025.Liberal game plan. Change the question if you're not getting the answer that fits into your agenda.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 And if old trucks are so great, how come UPS isn't still running MHs and Astros? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 old trucks do require more attention, and a good operator with some mechanical aptitude. it does not fit in ups's business model does not mean its not profitable, let alone there drivers would piss and moan. although if i'm not mistaken ups retains there trucks longer than the average large fleet. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 UPS tried keeping tractors 20 years, found out the repair costs were too high. They then planned on replacement after 9 years, but in practice that got extended out a bit. Right now UPS has been buying new tractors like crazy, and I don't see UPS CHs very often... UPS switched from the CH to the CX around 2003. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Damit, now you tell me... I should have painted my MH brown. And do everything else UPS does.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg1 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: UPS tried keeping tractors 20 years, found out the repair costs were too high. They then planned on replacement after 9 years, but in practice that got extended out a bit. Right now UPS has been buying new tractors like crazy, and I don't see UPS CHs very often... UPS switched from the CH to the CX around 2003. I pulled containers out of a rail yard where UPS also pulled out of and the way some of them drove I can understand why repair costs were high Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I suspect most of you guys couldn't meet UPS feeder driver standards. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ranchhopper Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: I suspect most of you guys couldn't meet UPS feeder driver standards. Most guys that drive equipment owned by a large corporation don't treat it like its their own and of course the union attitude is they are always screwing me anyways so make them pay for it. As far as meeting UPS standards your right on my account because I still think for myself and am not a union robot you couldn't pay me enough to get like that. 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Sounds like more poor O.O.'s BS explanation for their poor situation. Some of you just plain can't meet the better paying employers standards, so you buy an old truck and work for peanuts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ezrider Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: I suspect most of you guys couldn't meet UPS feeder driver standards. ok, i have actually worked for ups before, i didn't really care much for working there, i left on good terms and the hub manager told me if at any time i wanted to come back he would make it happen. im not saying working for usp is horrible they are actually pretty good it just takes a long time to get into a good spot. and to work part time on pre load most the time to only drive when someone elses route needs covered wasn't going to work for me. let alone im not a sheep and having to memorize stupid acronyms to please someone else irritates me. but not meeting there standards is false, they tried to talk me out of leaving when i put in my notice, and on my last day they thanked me for the time that i worked there told me how great of a job i did and basically gave me a open job offer if i ever wanted to come back. so i am pretty sure that i do in fact meet there standards. but at this point your just baiting argument anyway so i should probably stop even responding to your stupid posts. have you ever heard the saying "there is more than one way to skin a cat" well its true just because someone elses way does not fit you or your idea's does not mean it does not still work. Edited June 25, 2017 by Ezrider 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Actually, I'm in a similar position, but never had a problem with UPS's acronyms, uniforms, etc.. I first worked for UPS in the early 90s when I was literally chased out of Hostess and would have gladly stayed on, but the Postal Service gave me more work as a part timer and ultimately that lead to a full time job. After retiring from the Postal Service I temped at UPS again during the peak seasons a decade ago, they wanted me to work summer too but I liked to ride motorcycle then. During 2007 peak season UPS told us temps to be ready to go full time, as they expected a wave of retirements in 2008. But the recession killed that plan, I moved to a place 70 miles from the nearest UPS Center, and a couple months of peak season overtime pay would just push me into a higher tax bracket anyway. But if I needed the money, I'd be back to UPS tomorrow! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ws721 Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2017 We a LONG way from the original 13 speed topic. But, like I said before, there are those who can think for their selves and there are "steering wheel" holders. m not putting down who you work for how you work. But you attacked us who can and do think for our selves. That is just the Gov't/union way. If every American thought like you this country wouldn't be any where close to what we are today. What is wrong with running old iron? What do you care? If it wasn't for know how and perserverence it would be a sad state of affairs. Hats off to all who keep old iron alive! No matter where you live or what your running. I like gong to a truck show and seeing an old working truck any day over a new truck. Takes a lot more work dedication to show older iron. 6 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Old trucks are great to collect, show, and run in a relaxed manner. But work them? I remember the disaster that Hostess transportation became when they didn't get any new trucks for 8 years and finally shut down and liquidated. By then the average fleet age was 18 years, and the bankruptcy creditor's list included most every truck rental company! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Old trucks are great to collect, show, and run in a relaxed manner. But work them? I remember the disaster that Hostess transportation became when they didn't get any new trucks for 8 years and finally shut down and liquidated. By then the average fleet age was 18 years, and the bankruptcy creditor's list included most every truck rental company!OMG, I'm way behind! My fleet average is 39 years! I better run down and buy a new truck! Oh wait, it's Sunday... Damn, I won't be able to sleep tonight until I sign up for the new Volvo tomorrow...Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) LMAO!!! Yea, like I'm going to go buy a new " Edited June 25, 2017 by ws721 i goofed Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ws721 Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2017 LMAO!!! Yea like I'm going to buy a new "ELECTRONIC WONDER" that even the dealers cant keep running. I'm leaveing N.H. on wed. Loading at 2 places on the Canadian border. Unloading near Wildwood, Fl. Then going down near Ft Meyers, Fl to reload. My truck is 26 years old with 1.6 million. I am not worried. Would you suggest I buy a new truck to do this run? It rides good, its quiet, it has class and it is COOL. It averages around 6.8 MPG. Then to top it off I get a lot of thumbs up and comments on the radio. Oh I forgot 1 thing, It doesn't owe me a Dime. I sure hope the 13 spd works in that Mack. LOL Run it 1 2 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50225-13-speed-fuller/page/4/#findComment-373424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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