J Peeler Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I want to put 13 inch dual breathers on my superliner.does any one have a factory one with dual breathers where I can use vin for part numbers. Or any advice for getting me on the right track of what I will need. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The superliner II that was at a company I worked for simply had the stainless breather bracket bolted to the driver side cowl with aid of a stiffener plate on the inside of the cab. it made the kick vent un usable. I have seen some superliners that had that stiffener plate on the passenger side as well. you will also want to adjust the driver door stop so that the door cant swing into the breather. again the passenger side may already have the limited swing hinge on it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-374894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 Thanks for the reply.my main concern is the filler panel s and cutting the hood . I'm trying to figure out if I can buy any of it factory or do I have to come up with my own. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-374903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 On 7/15/2017 at 4:43 AM, Lmackattack said: The superliner II that was at a company I worked for simply had the stainless breather bracket bolted to the driver side cowl with aid of a stiffener plate on the inside of the cab. it made the kick vent un usable. I have seen some superliners that had that stiffener plate on the passenger side as well. you will also want to adjust the driver door stop so that the door cant swing into the breather. again the passenger side may already have the limited swing hinge on it. Everything said is spot on. That is exactly how mine is and it was Fab'ed up and looks good with the stainless cleaners. There are no parts at Mack for any of this anymore so make it up as you go. Get some good photos of the set-up and cut and piece the system together. Some cutting, fabrication and welding required. The outside air cleaner do give the Superliner a great look. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-374926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 Thanks do you have any close up pic of yours. I reckon the frist thing to do would be to get the breathers mounted and it should show where the hood will need to be cut then make a filler panel Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-374933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timmyb Posted July 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, J Peeler said: Thanks do you have any close up pic of yours. I reckon the frist thing to do would be to get the breathers mounted and it should show where the hood will need to be cut then make a filler panel Just throwing around an idea. But I'd cut the hood as per factory then mount air filters to match. Reason being, it would look closer to original. And if you ever had a bingle and wrecked your hood you may replace with factory one. And your making the rest from scratch so you can work around the hood. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-374938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdog405 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Check out my thread( Anouther superliner rebuild) in this section,but back a few pages. I did the same thing with one that never had them. Found KW cleaners worked best. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Thanks beautiful build I found everything factory on a truck in a junkyard waiting to hear back from. Did you fab the filler panels or they kw too I need to find the measurement for the panels then every thing else should be a breeze Edited July 18, 2017 by J Peeler Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I'm going with intakes from an international stainless steel bonnet type and 11 inch diameter less interference with the doors. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/15/2017 at 4:49 AM, J Peeler said: Thanks do you have any close up pic of yours. I reckon the frist thing to do would be to get the breathers mounted and it should show where the hood will need to be cut then make a filler panel The thing you have to look out for is the clutch cable. The one on my truck is high were as "back in black's" cable is under the crossover tube if I recall. I could have the crossover tube up an inch or two and would help with a clearance problem with my turbo tube. I needed to recess the tube a bit to clear as in the photo. The cut-outs in the hood comes up to the molded fiberglass support then reinforced with a piece of 1/8 stainless plate. The side support/cover the intake runs though are made of 1/8 aluminum plate and bolted to the cowl edge and have a band-iron enforcement behind. the lights look good at night. These are 13 inch Vortex stainless cleaners which look good and work great. No real clearance issues with ether door. The side vents will be inoperable and behind the cleaner mounts. You have to extend the lower cab pins and hood mounts forward. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Thanks for the pics looks good I think I'm going to go with the same breathers and use kw brackets I'm building the motor now then I'm going to start on the breathers and then have it painted if I can ever decide on a color Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On my 92 it came with dual breathers the po changed them out with two nos r model ones the intake conectors have a indent for the cable. Also if you check out one of my posts from earlierthis year I was tracking downn the missing roller guides which you will need to keep the hood aligned and not rubbing on the filler panels 1 Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdog405 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 20 hours ago, J Peeler said: Thanks beautiful build I found everything factory on a truck in a junkyard waiting to hear back from. Did you fab the filler panels or they kw too I need to find the measurement for the panels then every thing else should be a breeze Filler panels where fabed, the KW cleaners work fine, but not the mounts! Can't open the door with the Kw ones, got new mack bands to mount mine, moves them far enough forward to get door open . from there I used KW tubes and a couple odds and ends to angle around clutch cable and connect to turbo, keep in mind this KW donor had a Cat and that was what I put in my Dog. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Thanks I'll check with my Mack dealer see if they can c come up with some does anyone have the part number for the mounts the parts people at my dealership are young and don't try very hard to find anything for you hafe the time I haft to go behind the counter and look it up my self Edited July 19, 2017 by J Peeler Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Chrome cans or painted Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 I like the factory cans but if I half to buy new one proubly be 13 vortex I can get them around $500 each I don't know about the factory ones Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I just bought a pair of 11 inch stainless donaldsons with the mounting brackets for 500 going to be another 100 or so to get them here. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Peeler Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 hours ago, ranchhopper said: I just bought a pair of 11 inch stainless donaldsons with the mounting brackets for 500 going to be another 100 or so to get them here. I'm ready to see some pictures Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Heres one before they took it off the truck they sent me pictures of them so I could see what I was getting.Good thing is they are giving me the brackets and the bonnets too most want to sell you the unit itself but want to charge extra for the straps and bonnets. I think going with a smaller 11 inch unit helps with door clearance and weight on the cab panel mountings and seeing there is going to be two of them restriction will not be a problem. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 you just reminded me I saw some air cleaners on kijiji the other day... may be useful to someone https://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipment-parts-accessories/winnipeg/air-filter-housings/1268971660?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true and that's in Canadian Pesos BC Mack 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, BC Mack said: you just reminded me I saw some air cleaners on kijiji the other day... may be useful to someone https://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipment-parts-accessories/winnipeg/air-filter-housings/1268971660?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true and that's in Canadian Pesos BC Mack Wow that's a smoking deal there but shipping may be a bit pricy if they will even make the effort to box them up.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-375395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack bldr Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Are you still looking for air cleaner parts for an RW I have everything but the intake pipe and air cleaner I have all the brackets and reinforcing panels for inside the cowls Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-379407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutus998 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 We mount our externals without cutting the hood. You can hook both up or use just passenger side and have drivers side for looks. If you do both this way its tricky with the wiring panel on the firewall. I can get a pick of it if you want. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-379551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, brutus998 said: We mount our externals without cutting the hood. You can hook both up or use just passenger side and have drivers side for looks. If you do both this way its tricky with the wiring panel on the firewall. I can get a pick of it if you want. Nice work on that set up. I have never seen one done like that before! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-379562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lmackattack said: Nice work on that set up. I have never seen one done like that before! Agree. I'd like to see some more pics of it. Kinda look like they are mounted like a Pete. Edited September 13, 2017 by Hobert62 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/50477-dual-breathers-for-superliner/#findComment-379565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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