A call for riots

[Freightrain]

1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

 Higher pay attracts the best workers, no surprise.

Ya, well let me tell you about "best workers".   Sister was HR over the Ford Romeo Engine plant for a number of years before moving away.  I heard and saw what kind of workers they are.  Too many are useless and just drains on the company.  They can't fire them, so they literally have to pay them to sit in the cafeteria all day because they can't be trusted to do their job properly without screwing too many things up.  Can't get rid of them(union), so it's better to just pay them to sleep all day.  Yup, sounds like better workers to me....

 

 

[Freightrain]

On 7/19/2017 at 9:20 AM, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Your trying to race bait this tragedy, it ain't about race-

Oh, so now it isn't about race.  But when a black person gets shot by a white person what comes out of the other side of your mouth is completely different.

[Mack Technician]

2 hours ago, Mackpro said:

The FBI Crime Statistics must be racist.  13% of the US population causing 52.2% of murders. I'm not a racist but what can you say? Where I live I'm more worried about the white cracked out meth users . 

Well put! I'm mostly worried about diabetes and uncommonly delicious cheese. It's killed most of my family members. The majority of the people in this forum are likely suffering from the same First World Issues like "truck driver butt".

As a Constitutional Conservative, Christian, United Steel Workers member, Gun toting conceal carry, straight/married, father of 5, white guy with stay home wife,  who likes his union ........... I have no friends in this argument.     

 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Well said, Mack Technician- Murder is pretty low on the list of causes of death, suicide is more common, and most of us die of heart and lung ailments or cancer. I got no problem with sane citizens lawfully exercising their 2nd amendment rights, or their 1st amendment rights for that matter. Same with freedom of religion, political association, and who folks choose to love.

[TeamsterGrrrl]

41 Chevy, it's simple: You sign a contract, you have to abide by it.

[david wild]

Shot through the door in her pajamas ??? Give me a break. Where is the concern and outrage from the people who care so much about one group but the hell with you if your white. Maybe we racist (supposedly) have a valid point and our concerns should be taken into account. Why can't white people be treated equal too? And if your not union, you're some scum bag loser??????? Really, we scum bags are the ones that pay the taxes that support your union pension when it goes broke. Maybe a thanks is in order.   

[Timmyb]

One asshole cop shoots an unarmed person and you call all the police trigger happy. That too is stereotyping. 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

11 hours ago, david wild said:

Shot through the door in her pajamas ??? Give me a break. Where is the concern and outrage from the people who care so much about one group but the hell with you if your white. Maybe we racist (supposedly) have a valid point and our concerns should be taken into account. Why can't white people be treated equal too? And if your not union, you're some scum bag loser??????? Really, we scum bags are the ones that pay the taxes that support your union pension when it goes broke. Maybe a thanks is in order. 

Some white guys are so fragile... Almost like snowflakes!

[Mack Technician]

We had to dump our pension, it was redundant, I'll never see it cause of my age. No taxpayer $ here either. We chunk wood into paper with 400 union workers and an engineering group. Every month we clear 7-10 million dollars above the red at our facility. Corporate is very fat and very happy and we like it that way. We are also "right to work". 

[Mack Technician]

1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Some white guys are so fragile... Almost like snowflakes!

That's soooooo cold..... get it! "Snowflakes" "cold".....never mind. 

[carlotpilot]

2 hours ago, Mack Technician said:

That's soooooo cold..... get it! "Snowflakes" "cold".....never mind. 

real iceie  situation

[Mack Technician]

13 hours ago, carlotpilot said:

real iceie  situation

Ice see your pun and raise you one!

[TeamsterGrrrl]

15 hours ago, 41chevy said:

Just don't shove it in my face because I don't support their telling me who I can and can not hire.

 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

2 hours ago, 41chevy said:

Nothing in any of my contracts stipulate that I need union or non union workers.

Will you make up your mind?

[BillyT]

KSB,I posted earlier, we should stick to trucks and forget politics! And I meant it! But as most of you are aware I have an anecdote to illustrate every situation! So here comes one! I'm in the Pa state employment office in Jan.1975 looking for a job!  They were posted on microfilm in the pre computer days! So I see a job,hvy truck operator,full time temporary flood control project Carnegie pa, 6mos.experience. It looked like it was made for me! 8miles from home! So I go to the counselor,"can you get me an interview " The guy says "Thats affirmative action" you can't apply for that! Then he looks like he swallowed his tongue! What he meant was you can apply, but not being a minority you won't be hired! He then looks at me sideways "are you an Aleutian islander or native American?" And he names a couple ethnicities that aren't black! I  answer no! "You can apply but you won't be hired" It was a government project so it had a 10 percent minority quota! So that's my introduction to reverse discrimination! More later, but it's lunchtime!

[carlotpilot]

7 hours ago, Mack Technician said:

Ice see your pun and raise will you one!

call

[BillyT]

Billy T, replied to Billy T! So after I got done being pi$$ed off I'm thinking dummy! If you had known about affirmative action you could have pretended to have been an Aleutian islander!,learn some facts etc they wouldn't have checked in those days! So having missed my ideal job I see a job hauling US mail for a contractor and I go to another counselor (a very pleasant professional young black lady) and she gets me an interview with the mail carrier, my road test is a one mile run in a 9670 "cornbinder" bobtail and I'm hired on the spot! ( shoulda known right!) So I make a couple regional runs on one the runs the air compressor literally falls off the engine right in front of the old Lawn plaza on the PA tpke and the brakes lock up! I managed to get it off the road when I see the air pressure dropping! On another run I'm dropping gears at the Indiana pa get off ramp off 119 and I see the drive shaft spinning thru the air in a slow arc and figured it would be a good time to get off on the shoulder! On my last run the supervisor calls me and says he has three tractors available, all 9670s one has a gear missing (10 speed 250 Cummins!) One has a bad alternator (mid winter at night)! And the third a tag axle, has one set of working brakes (on the tag) ! "Which one do you want?!" "I don't want any of them I reply!" "Do you want your job"! So I take the one with brakes on the tag! On my way to Philadelphia that night I passed three of their tractors broken down on the shoulder! It's snowing pretty hard and a motorist pulls right in front of me off the shoulder! I hit him ,not hard but his trunk won't close! So we tie his trunk shut and the trooper takes the report and I deliver in Philadelphia. The next morning I take a loaded trailer back to Pittsburgh and go home.when I go to pick up my pay the s.o.b.s are fixing the brakes on my tractor! I get my check and they fire me!😁  I go back to the Employment office and the same lady that got me the interview signs me up for unemployment! " no willful misconduct" was the verdict! All of this because I wasn't an Aleutian islander! So I decided I'd had enough trucking for awhile,and went to welding school on the GI Bill! I was of course at the time unaware I had diesel fuel in my veins !

 

 

 

 

 

 

[carlotpilot]

5 hours ago, BillyT said:

Billy T, replied to Billy T! So after I got done being pi$$ed off I'm thinking dummy! If you had known about affirmative action you could have pretended to have been an Aleutian islander!,learn some facts etc they wouldn't have checked in those days! So having missed my ideal job I see a job hauling US mail for a contractor and I go to another counselor (a very pleasant professional young black lady) and she gets me an interview with the mail carrier, my road test is a one mile run in a 9670 "cornbinder" bobtail and I'm hired on the spot! ( shoulda known right!) So I make a couple regional runs on one the runs the air compressor literally falls off the engine right in front of the old Lawn plaza on the PA tpke and the brakes lock up! I managed to get it off the road when I see the air pressure dropping! On another run I'm dropping gears at the Indiana pa get off ramp off 119 and I see the drive shaft spinning thru the air in a slow arc and figured it would be a good time to get off on the shoulder! On my last run the supervisor calls me and says he has three tractors available, all 9670s one has a gear missing (10 speed 250 Cummins!) One has a bad alternator (mid winter at night)! And the third a tag axle, has one set of working brakes (on the tag) ! "Which one do you want?!" "I don't want any of them I reply!" "Do you want your job"! So I take the one with brakes on the tag! On my way to Philadelphia that night I passed three of their tractors broken down on the shoulder! It's snowing pretty hard and a motorist pulls right in front of me off the shoulder! I hit him ,not hard but his trunk won't close! So we tie his trunk shut and the trooper takes the report and I deliver in Philadelphia. The next morning I take a loaded trailer back to Pittsburgh and go home.when I go to pick up my pay the s.o.b.s are fixing the brakes on my tractor! I get my check and they fire me!😁  I go back to the Employment office and the same lady that got me the interview signs me up for unemployment! " no willful misconduct" was the verdict! All of this because I wasn't an Aleutian islander! So I decided I'd had enough trucking for awhile,and went to welding school on the GI Bill! I was of course at the time unaware I had diesel fuel in my veins !

helluva deal

[macks in nigeria]

6 hours ago, BillyT said:

KSB,I posted earlier, we should stick to trucks and forget politics! And I meant it! But as most of you are aware I have an anecdote to illustrate every situation! So here comes one! I'm in the Pa state employment office in Jan.1975 looking for a job!  They were posted on microfilm in the pre computer days! So I see a job,hvy truck operator,full time temporary flood control project Carnegie pa, 6mos.experience. It looked like it was made for me! 8miles from home! So I go to the counselor,"can you get me an interview " The guy says "Thats affirmative action" you can't apply for that! Then he looks like he swallowed his tongue! What he meant was you can apply, but not being a minority you won't be hired! He then looks at me sideways "are you an Aleutian islander or native American?" And he names a couple ethnicities that aren't black! I  answer no! "You can apply but you won't be hired" It was a government project so it had a 10 percent minority quota! So that's my introduction to reverse discrimination! More later, but it's lunchtime!

I agree we we should stick to trucks.A young lady ,white and Australian is killed in very sad and mysterious circumstances but it only provides an avenue for some people here to see it a race issue not the crime it might be.Stereotypes are been thrown about.I am black but Nigerian so I naturally hurt when generalizations are been made about race.I am college educated and right now seen my two kids through college so will feel bad to think that because of the color of my skin i am seen as been less a human than the next man, because of the unfortunate behavior of some one  who has the same skin color as me.

While this happened in America those who have taken the position because she is white even though Australian are the same with me who is reacting this way because I am black even though Nigerian.BMT is a Worldwide Forum and we should be mindful of sensiblities.An old sexist  African Proverb says "When dry bones are mentioned old women get uncomfortable"

[kscarbel2]

7 hours ago, BillyT said:

KSB,I posted earlier, we should stick to trucks and forget politics!

Billy, my thought is, the "Odds and Ends" thread is designated "for non-truck related topics", including current events. (The "VIP Lounge" is also broad topic)

BMT's general guidelines on posts are, no name-calling, personal insults or threats. And no profanity or vulgarity.

Some of the posts can be high spirited at times, but in general BMT members are a high caliber group of people that contribute to the website being unparalleled in nature.

We all need to remember that everyone has a right to their own opinion. And there's absolutely no point to getting high blood pressure over another person's thoughts (opinions). If you disagree with another person's opinion, ignore it and move on. A few things in life are still so simple and effortless.

Some healthy discussions on current events and other in the "Odds and Ends" thread isn't a bad thing, if members express themselves reasonably. There are a lot of very intelligent people here that bring some legitimate viewpoints to the table. Even though opinions may conflict with each other at times, it doesn't mean they're without merit.

[david wild]

I'm lucky now, I quit trucking 6 weeks ago, sold the last truck, glad to see it go. Don't think there are any union companies I would compete against since there are not any that I know of. We have gone forward with our aircraft relocation business, something we have done part time for 15 years. We now just hire the truck because it is a small part of what we do, the dismantling and reconstruction is the gravy. Not a lot of union companies work on Russian or ex-military aircraft, (not many military aircraft civilians can own), lucky me (cool gig for dumb truck driver). Will post some great pics (Air Force One decoy is parked next to us)  when we get home. 

I think some of you have missed the point. I am not making a point about the the police officer's color or where he comes from. I don't care. What I do care about is the reaction (or lack of) from all those bleeding heart liberals out to defend a person killed by a cop only if they are the right color for there cause. I care about the double standard. Stop the race BS, it's not about race. It's about using race to push an agenda. It's about the cops being wrong even if they're not just because of the victim's skin color. It's about the defending of criminal behavior just because of skin color. Only the race baitors and those concerned with using race as a excuse to further their cause are the ones that continue to use race. You can be a green alien from Mars, I don't care. But I do care about someone killed by accident and just because of her color it is a non-story. Where is the left media coverage? Too busy making fake news.  

I have worked in Ghana and Tanzania, so don't give me the race BS line. I have seen what real racism looks like and there were not many whites around. We did our best to help all the people we worked with, but the governments there were the problem, not the people. I can say that for the people in Iraq or anywhere else I have been, but only in the USA does one group use the past for its current failures. It is not racism, it's an excuse the liberals have promoted for their failure to educate and enlighten their followers. They (liberals) have failed their voters so they blame racism. That is an injustice. They run the big cities, they run the schools and they alone have failed the minorities in this country.

[41chevy]

Nice to see 1 or both of 2 people removed most all my posts. Third thread this has happened too. Seems when she attacks you and the other protects her from you defending yourself. Maybe I should race bait and name call and play the poor retired woman. The 2 of you, (one of who I went to bat for with Barry when there was a posting issues) are crap now in my book. Now when you read this either of you or both can feel free to dump this post too.

Edited July 22, 2017 by 41chevy

[TDBach]

Who is it?  Let er fly 41 chevy! 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

Maybe 41chevy sobered up and deleted them himself...

[Timmyb]

4 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

Maybe 41chevy sobered up and deleted them himself...

Haha, well if your good for nothing else at least your good for a laugh. 

I have a lot of respect for 41Chevy, and find his knowledge and experience very helpful and he is always willing to share both. 

His opinions, whilst different to mine sometimes, are respected because he has experienced a lot and has good reasons for them.

If you open your mind, you too could learn from this site. And a healthy debate is fine, but calling him a drunk (which is what you implied) is just plain silly.