A call for riots

[kscarbel2]

 

Haha, well if your good for nothing else at least your good for a laugh. 

I have a lot of respect for 41Chevy, and find his knowledge and experience very helpful and he is always willing to share both. 

His opinions, whilst different to mine sometimes, are respected because he has experienced a lot and has good reasons for them.

If you open your mind, you too could learn from this site. And a healthy debate is fine, but calling him a drunk (which is what you implied) is just plain silly.

Timmy, I couldn't agree with you more.

The BMT website follows generally accepted guidelines on posts: no name-calling, personal insults or threats. And no profanity or vulgarity.

And it's so easy to go along with.

David Wild began the thread, and in his unique style got right to the point of his thoughts. However he didn't break any of those socially-accepted standards.

Teamstergrrrl's comment about sobering up comes across as a personal insult. It may have been said in a light-hearted way, but we can't sense "tone" in written posts. Unfortunately written thoughts can be at times misconstrued.

Like a Bulldog and anyone in the truck business, nobody here is thin-skinned. But I suggest we all make a conscious effort to respect each other's differing opinions and restrain from insults. After all, at the end of the day, we're all one big family.

I'm confident that both Teamstergrrrl and 41chevy (Paul) are each super people in their own right. And certainly we all know by now, they're both extremely intelligent individuals. Hopefully a hand shake and hug can help them bond.

We all have just one life and it's far too short. Enjoy yourself on BMT, and enjoy your life. 

As you say Timmy, with an open mind, one can learn a lot from this site, from people with greatly opinions. I've learned at least one thing from every person that I ever knew, including both people I liked and disliked, agreed with and disagreed with. I had a neighbor in my twenties and we simply disliked each other. But she lectured me one day that if I only threw my wet laundry into the dryer for 2-3 minutes to wring off the water, and then hung them up to dry, the clothes would last for years and years. She was right. Wear and tear in the washing machine can't be helped (front loader is much better), but the dryer is a clothes destroyer.  

 

[41chevy]

A drunk? You have called me a loser for being drafted, a murderer for being in Vietnam, a cracker for having Christian values, un educated for being a conservative, you have called my wife and I names, attacked us and called us names for living in Israel for a few years, accused me of screwing my sister,called my children morons, attacked my family for being conservative, god fearing Americans, attacked me and my family for being gun owners, called me a racist, anti, gay clinger, holding my bible and guns, you have told me to put the dope away and get clean. You have now completed the list by calling me a drunk. 

You get a cookie.

I was raised with Christian and traditional family values.I do not drink,use tobacco, or do any form of drugs (here's fuel for you to attack me with. . .it is against my religious beliefs). I was raised and my children were raised to respect people and there views whether agreeable or not.

It is pitifully clear that you were not raised with any of those basic values and I don't hold you accountable for that..

I do have a small comment to your latest attack. Un strap your computer balls and place them back in your little toy box, ô môi. I suggest you try to learn some basic peolpe skills and understanding to interact with all types of people, You know,  the things most civilized people are taught as children.

Edited July 23, 2017 by 41chevy

[TDBach]

I'll stick to oldMacks, tractors, and cattle... or I'll need to get a pair of hip waders because the crap is getting deep ha!  

So I went to church on Sunday morning and a woman brings her 7 year old son in.. dressed in a dress.. girls flip flops and a shaved head.. his name was Christopher..  I would like to know what people were thinking... his mom said "he's transgender".   What the he** 

in farm country?   What is the world coming to? 

 

[HeavyGunner]

Paul you will always have my utmost respect, you were forced into the military (drafted), you learned a trade (aircraft frame welding) and you started your own business and it seems you were very successful. Yet you continue to give back, you volunteer for the veterans, you're always a wealth of knowledge. 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

4 hours ago, TDBach said:

I'll stick to oldMacks, tractors, and cattle... or I'll need to get a pair of hip waders because the crap is getting deep ha!  

So I went to church on Sunday morning and a woman brings her 7 year old son in.. dressed in a dress.. girls flip flops and a shaved head.. his name was Christopher..  I would like to know what people were thinking... his mom said "he's transgender".   What the he** 

in farm country?   What is the world coming to? 

 

The same bigots that hate trans kids hate women like us who work with machinery too... If we women can play with trucks, he can wear a dress!

[macks in nigeria]

Does anyone  remember what this thread really is about? What some of us were afraid of.

[TDBach]

1 hour ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

The same bigots that hate trans kids hate women like us who work with machinery too... If we women can play with trucks, he can wear a dress!

Ha!       So here's one for ya.. the word is spreading that I restore old trucks and tractors.. paint.  So this guy calls today and asks for "Tracy" says he's got an Oliver tractor that's needs painting and some light mechanical.. I said "you're speaking to her". He says " you are a woman? ". I said yep.. last time I checked.. he hung up the phone..  I called him back thinking he lost the connection and he was polite but simply said "I'm not interested any more" so I asked him if he could explain why since we hadn't even talked money.. he says, "women don't know a whole lot about tractors and needed to find someone who did".  So I rattled off the make, model.. from the pics he sent before he called and some other wiring and fuel bowl/ starter O ring and other gasket stuff that needs to be removed before paint.. he says " how much for paint and wiring and asked me about wet seal on starter.."  I said " not interested if a man doesn't know the parts on his own tractor".  

Hung up the phone..  I deal with that a lot, so they get to see other folks who have had a vehicle or tractor painted by me.. eventually they'll come around or they can pay the outrageous prices to have someone else do it. 

I laugh.. 

 

[Mack Technician]

6 hours ago, TDBach said:

I'll stick to oldMacks, tractors, and cattle... or I'll need to get a pair of hip waders because the crap is getting deep ha!  

So I went to church on Sunday morning and a woman brings her 7 year old son in.. dressed in a dress.. girls flip flops and a shaved head.. his name was Christopher..  I would like to know what people were thinking... his mom said "he's transgender".   What the he** 

in farm country?   What is the world coming to? 

 

Sounds like a great opportunity to minister to the people! Church is a home for the sin sick. We are always hoping for folks in spiritually difficult circumstances to come in through the door........but we mostly just get our regulars.  

[TDBach]

It's not my place to judge.. however I do raise an eyebrow every now and then  

[Mack Technician]

28 minutes ago, TDBach said:

Ha!       So here's one for ya.. the word is spreading that I restore old trucks and tractors.. paint.  So this guy calls today and asks for "Tracy" says he's got an Oliver tractor that's needs painting and some light mechanical.. I said "you're speaking to her". He says " you are a woman? ". I said yep.. last time I checked.. he hung up the phone..  I called him back thinking he lost the connection and he was polite but simply said "I'm not interested any more" so I asked him if he could explain why since we hadn't even talked money.. he says, "women don't know a whole lot about tractors and needed to find someone who did".  So I rattled off the make, model.. from the pics he sent before he called and some other wiring and fuel bowl/ starter O ring and other gasket stuff that needs to be removed before paint.. he says " how much for paint and wiring and asked me about wet seal on starter.."  I said " not interested if a man doesn't know the parts on his own tractor".  

Hung up the phone..  I deal with that a lot, so they get to see other folks who have had a vehicle or tractor painted by me.. eventually they'll come around or they can pay the outrageous prices to have someone else do it. 

I laugh.. 

 

That's hilarious!!!

My wife is from Dakotas. Gotta be tough and frank to survive on 15 inches of rain, 12 months of wind and 13 months of winter.

[Mack Technician]

10 minutes ago, TDBach said:

It's not my place to judge.. however I do raise an eyebrow every now and then  

Just judgment enough to discern.

Last year we had a local fellow come to church, at late evening off hours, with a handgun to kill himself, possibly others too. Pastor saw him get out of car and tuck the gun so he locked the front door till guy agreed to put his gun back in the car. Let him in, talked him down and had the health care people come and get him, but didn't tell white coats about the gun.

Got the guys parents to confiscate the gun. He went and visited him regularly. See him around now, he is doing OK. We have our eye raisers too.    

[TDBach]

10 minutes ago, Mack Technician said:

Just judgment enough to discern.

Last year we had a local fellow come to church, at late evening off hours, with a handgun to kill himself, possibly others too. Pastor saw him get out of car and tuck the gun so he locked the front door till guy agreed to put his gun back in the car. Let him in, talked him down and had the health care people come and get him, but didn't tell white coats about the gun.

Got the guys parents to confiscate the gun. He went and visited him regularly. See him around now, he is doing OK. We have our eye raisers too.    

Some folks need saving..life can be tough for sure!  

[david wild]

Not her fault, she is a prime example of union brainwashing, if not union you are lower than dirt, ask her, but we know better and let it go because we are better than that,  I just ignore her insults, I consider the source. 

[Quickfarms]

You don't want to get me started on unions. I have had my share of them. They are basically a cult that has brainwashed there members into believing they are the best workers for a job. The reality is that they have many lazy incompetent workers that the union protects.

Women in the field, any field, are great as long as they can do the job.

I know plenty of women that work in non traditional employment and do a great job.

Personally I don't care what gender or race you are, as long as you get the job done

[TDBach]

8 hours ago, Quickfarms said:

You don't want to get me started on unions. I have had my share of them. They are basically a cult that has brainwashed there members into believing they are the best workers for a job. The reality is that they have many lazy incompetent workers that the union protects.

Women in the field, any field, are great as long as they can do the job.

I know plenty of women that work in non traditional employment and do a great job.

Personally I don't care what gender or race you are, as long as you get the job done

I'm a woman and I agree.. you gotta be able to work and do the job.  I also agree that there are some jobs that a woman should leave to a man.  Just my opinion because there are just some things I cannot do.  I was raised that the man is head of the house... I'm old fashioned but believe society has diminished the role of the man in the household and maybe one of the reasons for broken societies.. maybe not the right word but you know what I'm getting at.  I think the union can protect employees from bad employers some of the time, but when I worked for LSI aviation.. the union prevented us from firing unsafe, nonworking dirtbags.. and cost us a lot in dues for little progress on pay and benefits..  so for the most part I don't agree with unions and I don't think employees should be forced into union contracts.  Unions had their place back when people wanted to work.. now that people don't want to work it's getting abused.  

[TeamsterGrrrl]

For about $30 a month in union dues I got a couple hundred a month in higher wages which I invested in IRAs and 401Ks that are now worth several hundred thousand dollars. Instead of taking about $200 a month in taxable higher wages we put that into our pension plan which pays us a couple thousand a month. We also got a lot of other benefits by negotiating together as a union like two paid breaks a day and overtime pay.

No brainwashing needed... That's a heck of a deal!

[HeavyGunner]

21 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

The same bigots that hate trans kids hate women like us who work with machinery too... If we women can play with trucks, he can wear a dress!

Aren't you blanket stereotyping a group of people just like you accused another bmt member on here on the first page? You gotta quit towing that far left ridiculous agenda. Most people aren't bigots and don't hate any group of people, but if you listen to the left wing anytime someone doesn't understand or condone something the left goes right to calling names to shock and scare people out of their opinions and try and get them fired. Isn't thought and speech policing exactly what we are trying to stop yet the left perpetuates?  I could care less what someone else wants to do. I do care when I'm now told how to feel about something and if I don't tow the same line I'm called names, being labeled and all those other things that the left is supposedly against EXCEPT when they feel offended and feel they have a right to call names. It seems you make everything about race, call veterans names and other bmt members names on a regular basis. Why not have a real conversation where you debate with thoughts instead of blanket stereotyping and name calling?  You could add a lot on here but most don't take someone who drops personal insults to others every time their thoughts don't align with yours. 

[TeamsterGrrrl]

I just stated the facts. If folks want to go live in some fantasy of the 1950s or earlier, they may do so at their own risk... Just don't expect me and most of the country to always play along.

[tjc transport]

4 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

For about $30 a month in union dues I got a couple hundred a month in higher wages which I invested in IRAs and 401Ks that are now worth several hundred thousand dollars. Instead of taking about $200 a month in taxable higher wages we put that into our pension plan which pays us a couple thousand a month. We also got a lot of other benefits by negotiating together as a union like two paid breaks a day and overtime pay.

No brainwashing needed... That's a heck of a deal!

the only thing 32 years of union membership did for me was a pension plan that is in bankruptcy, and an annuity fund that i  lost over $3000,000 dollars on due to mismanagement.. 

i put $354,000 into the annuity fund over the years, and got $34,000 out of when i took my withdrawal card 7 years ago and invested it into my own plan which has almost doubled in 7 years. 

pension fund will run out of money at the end of the year leaving me with nothing. 

as far as i am concerned the teamsters union leadership can go have sexual relations with themselves.

[Terry T]

On 7/22/2017 at 0:24 AM, 41chevy said:

Nice to see 1 or both of 2 people removed most all my posts. Third thread this has happened too. Seems when she attacks you and the other protects her from you defending yourself. Maybe I should race bait and name call and play the poor retired woman. The 2 of you, (one of who I went to bat for with Barry when there was a posting issues) are crap now in my book. Now when you read this either of you or both can feel free to dump this post too.

Just for the record, although I was not on very much over the weekend, I did not receive any emails or notifications of issues with this thread so as near as I can tell no one reported you or asked that any of your posts be deleted by the moderator team. Personally I see a number of posts from a few different people that are pushing the lines of acceptability. 

[Quickfarms]

On 7/24/2017 at 9:20 PM, TDBach said:

I'll stick to oldMacks, tractors, and cattle... or I'll need to get a pair of hip waders because the crap is getting deep ha! [emoji4] 
So I went to church on Sunday morning and a woman brings her 7 year old son in.. dressed in a dress.. girls flip flops and a shaved head.. his name was Christopher..  I would like to know what people were thinking... his mom said "he's transgender".   What the he** 
in farm country?   What is the world coming to? 
 

Whisky tango foxtrot

At 7 he does not know what transgender is!

The mom is forcing an agenda on the poor kid and this sounds like borderline abuse

 

[Freightrain]

On 7/23/2017 at 1:49 PM, 41chevy said:

A drunk? You have called me a loser for being drafted, a murderer for being in Vietnam, a cracker for having Christian values, un educated for being a conservative, you have called my wife and I names, attacked us and called us names for living in Israel for a few years, accused me of screwing my sister,called my children morons, attacked my family for being conservative, god fearing Americans, attacked me and my family for being gun owners, called me a racist, anti, gay clinger, holding my bible and guns, you have told me to put the dope away and get clean. You have now completed the list by calling me a drunk. 

Don't worry Paul.  I don't think she is getting serious until she calls you a "poopie-face".

[TDBach]

2 hours ago, Quickfarms said:

Whisky tango foxtrot

At 7 he does not know what transgender is!

The mom is forcing an agenda on the poor kid and this sounds like borderline abuse

 

That's my thoughts exactly... abuse .. the kid doesn't know what transgender is 

[HeavyGunner]

16 minutes ago, TDBach said:

That's my thoughts exactly... abuse .. the kid doesn't know what transgender is 

It's really no different than those crazy beauty pageant moms forcing 6 year olds to acts and dress far more adult than they would normally because a six year old is generally far more interested in playing, not being forced to do things that aren't fun. 

[Freightrain]

13 hours ago, TDBach said:

That's my thoughts exactly... abuse .. the kid doesn't know what transgender is 

Sounds to me like the mother WANTED a daughter, not a son.  Thus she is giving him things to make him more like a girl and him not knowing anything accepts it from his mother as normal.  Thus it begins..........